Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just noticed that all GID users, other than the forum owner and moderators, have been removed from the OOB forum. I see zero warning of this event. Do any of the GID cognoscenti care to comment on why this was done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Nobody gets all the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gipper said: Nobody gets all the cards. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 considering 95% of the "drama" and "reports" stems from that section of the website that truly serves no purpose, @DK_Barons pulled the plug on it which I fully support. It truly has turned into a personal political playground for about 7-10 users and continue to go around and around and then it goes too far and lots of energy is used to to moderate that section that serves no purpose to our sport of Football. Coach Tim Adams original foresight into that section was a place where you could put on blast your favorite sports teams and players and to a lesser extent a place where folks could banter with @dawgieinthepound back in the day. Those days are long gone and now its just pure stupidity from my seat. Do not have to agree with my sentiment about it, but I personally have had enough of that section going on 4 + years, which is sad because it could of be utilized as a nice section to promote new ideas, pop culture, show/book/etc recommendations, express different Hobbies and such. Instead its a non stop FACEBOOK lite where everyone gets all twisted up and non stop political garbage spews... rinse repeat. That is my answer. I did not tell DK to hit the eject button, but I made my stance clear on what I thought about the section, however, I am just 1 lone voice. The fact that I have spent any energy on this even right now is tiresome to me, but I did feel the need to at least give @Muda69 my thoughts on it. Bottom line: Our website sole purpose was created for the promotion of Indiana High School Football, its players, coaches, communities that participate in it. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: considering 95% of the "drama" and "reports" stems from that section of the website that truly serves no purpose, @DK_Barons pulled the plug on it which I fully support. It truly has turned into a personal political playground for about 7-10 users and continue to go around and around and then it goes too far and lots of energy is used to to moderate that section that serves no purpose to our sport of Football. Coach Tim Adams original foresight into that section was a place where you could put on blast your favorite sports teams and players and to a lesser extent a place where folks could banter with @dawgieinthepound back in the day. Those days are long gone and now its just pure stupidity from my seat. Do not have to agree with my sentiment about it, but I personally have had enough of that section going on 4 + years, which is sad because it could of be utilized as a nice section to promote new ideas, pop culture, show/book/etc recommendations, express different Hobbies and such. Instead its a non stop FACEBOOK lite where everyone gets all twisted up and non stop political garbage spews... rinse repeat. That is my answer. I did not tell DK to hit the eject button, but I made my stance clear on what I thought about the section, however, I am just 1 lone voice. The fact that I have spent any energy on this even right now is tiresome to me, but I did feel the need to at least give @Muda69 my thoughts on it. Bottom line: Our website sole purpose was created for the promotion of Indiana High School Football, its players, coaches, communities that participate in it. Exactly. If one feel the need to be political, and there’s a need right now, there are many more platforms worth exploring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: Bottom line: Our website sole purpose was created for the promotion of Indiana High School Football, its players, coaches, communities that participate in it. I respectfully disagree, and so did the late Tim Adams. He would have found a way to make certain parties come to an agreement instead of taking such draconian measures. 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: The fact that I have spent any energy on this even right now is tiresome to me, but I did feel the need to at least give @Muda69 my thoughts on it. And this seems to be the mindset of most if not all of the GID admins/moderators lately. They don't want to moderate, they want to dictate. 1 hour ago, Gipper said: Exactly. If one feel the need to be political, and there’s a need right now, there are many more platforms worth exploring. Links please. And not facebook. Edited September 21, 2020 by Muda69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: considering 95% of the "drama" and "reports" stems from that section of the website that truly serves no purpose, @DK_Barons pulled the plug on it which I fully support. It truly has turned into a personal political playground for about 7-10 users and continue to go around and around and then it goes too far and lots of energy is used to to moderate that section that serves no purpose to our sport of Football. Coach Tim Adams original foresight into that section was a place where you could put on blast your favorite sports teams and players and to a lesser extent a place where folks could banter with @dawgieinthepound back in the day. Those days are long gone and now its just pure stupidity from my seat. Do not have to agree with my sentiment about it, but I personally have had enough of that section going on 4 + years, which is sad because it could of be utilized as a nice section to promote new ideas, pop culture, show/book/etc recommendations, express different Hobbies and such. Instead its a non stop FACEBOOK lite where everyone gets all twisted up and non stop political garbage spews... rinse repeat. That is my answer. I did not tell DK to hit the eject button, but I made my stance clear on what I thought about the section, however, I am just 1 lone voice. The fact that I have spent any energy on this even right now is tiresome to me, but I did feel the need to at least give @Muda69 my thoughts on it. Bottom line: Our website sole purpose was created for the promotion of Indiana High School Football, its players, coaches, communities that participate in it. Good move. And good riddance. For a quality guy like Trojan Dad to be lost to the football forum because of some OOB shennanigans is preposterous. I often thought it was just a race to see who could stack up the most posting points on the scoreboard. There is not much to moderate any more on the football forum. There are no high level extended fights or arguments. Its quite peaceful actually. Might be time for me to crank up some fresh contraction talk. That always brings some of the beasts out of their dens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Links please. And not facebook. Now, is that because you doubt the accuracy of his statement that there are many other platforms, and insist on some form of verification? Or is it because you’re interested in those other platforms and want him to do the work of locating them for you? 😂😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bobref said: Now, is that because you doubt the accuracy of his statement that there are many other platforms, and insist on some form of verification? Or is it because you’re interested in those other platforms and want him to do the work of locating them for you? 😂😆 #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Muda69 said: #2. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Although I had stepped back from the OOB some time back, I do regret having the plug pulled there and likely find my sympathies with Muda. I will miss the, once in a while, opportunity to talk about a book, movie or TV series.....or, on rare occasion, something else....and even at its most “uncivil” it was downright polite compared to most other social media alternatives. And to be clear, TD’s concerns there had little to do with what most participants there were saying to one another....TD could easily handle that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Well - maybe an e-mail or some form of notification might have helped ease the transition. Thanks GID managers.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Also - the only reason I felt compelled to donate a fee each year was because I was on that part of the GID more than anything else, and since it wasn't the football side, I felt compelled to donate each year......I do take notice of how many members/posters on the HS football side of things are active contributors........and I will say, it appears the OOB section may have been carrying the load of the fundraising for the GID.......(IMHO) So thanks again GID managers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, Bobref said: 👍 Won’t happen. I’ve got better things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, swordfish said: Also - the only reason I felt compelled to donate a fee each year was because I was on that part of the GID more than anything else, and since it wasn't the football side, I felt compelled to donate each year......I do take notice of how many members/posters on the HS football side of things are active contributors........and I will say, it appears the OOB section may have been carrying the load of the fundraising for the GID.......(IMHO) So thanks again GID managers...... I think you know how I feel about all our boosters, regardless of the reason they decided to donate. I signed in this morning and saw the message from @DK_Barons pulled the plug on it So if it makes you feel better, I was not emailed either, I know that there wants to be some grand conspiracy about the inner workings of our leadership team and the reasons why decisions are made, simply put, its just not the case. I will ask you this @swordfish and @Muda69 Sell me on why we should keep that section as is? What purpose do you both feel that the section provides to the overall health and well being of our website. As they say in AM radio, I will hang up and listen........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 So glad I never waded into that sea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said: So glad I never waded into that sea. You made the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: I will ask you this @swordfish and @Muda69 Sell me on why we should keep that section as is? What purpose do you both feel that the section provides to the overall health and well being of our website. As they say in AM radio, I will hang up and listen........ It would continue to uphold the vision of the GID as described by it's late founder, Mr. Tim Adams. IIRC he felt strongly about having a "non-football" forum available on the GID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Muda69 said: It would continue to uphold the vision of the GID as described by it's late founder, Mr. Tim Adams. IIRC he felt strongly about having a "non-football" forum available on the GID. Have you considered opening a new club? I just created one to see if it could be done. It's pretty easy if it gets approved. Edited September 21, 2020 by gonzoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, swordfish said: I do take notice of how many members/posters on the HS football side of things are active contributors........and I will say, it appears the OOB section may have been carrying the load of the fundraising for the GID.......(IMHO) I'm not so sure about that. Out of the 7 boosters currently online, 5 of them are not former members of the OOB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said: I think you know how I feel about all our boosters, regardless of the reason they decided to donate. I signed in this morning and saw the message from @DK_Barons pulled the plug on it So if it makes you feel better, I was not emailed either, I know that there wants to be some grand conspiracy about the inner workings of our leadership team and the reasons why decisions are made, simply put, its just not the case. I will ask you this @swordfish and @Muda69 Sell me on why we should keep that section as is? What purpose do you both feel that the section provides to the overall health and well being of our website. As they say in AM radio, I will hang up and listen........ I never assumed a conspiracy and couldn't really care less, but some advance notification would have been nice especially to those of us who have been on this board since 2006 and donate regularly. I'm sure there were some members of the OOB clan who would be high maintenance, as I'm sure exists on the football forums as well. My connection to the GID was made unnecessary after my youngest graduated in 2014, but I remained since the OOB existed and I enjoyed the political banter, as well as it gave me a connection to my local HS football conference, which I still step into now and then to contribute. In conclusion, I don't feel the need to "sell" you on anything so I won't. If you can't find a reason to keep the OOB, so be it. But if you would like to keep ole SF around and donating every year, then you will need to "sell" me on why I need to contribute to the GID anymore without the OOB. If not, no harm, no foul, I can easily redirect the double donation I gave this year to someone closer to home just as easy and pop into the NLC thread from time to time for free...... 12 minutes ago, gonzoron said: I'm not so sure about that. Out of the 7 boosters currently online, 5 of them are not former members of the OOB. As I said - (IMHO) it is only an opinion since I am not privy to the innerworkings of the GID, nor do I want to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I come to this forum for Football, when I want to experience other things, I go elsewhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, swordfish said: I am not privy to the innerworkings of the GID, nor do I want to be Same here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHJIrish Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Same here. Me too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, gonzoron said: Have you considered opening a new club? I just created one to see if it could be done. It's pretty easy if it gets approved. Yes, I did that earlier today. IMHO the approval is a big if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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