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1 minute ago, crimsonace1 said:

The IHSAA, historically, has not reclassified schools when they consolidate mid-cycle. Muncie Central competed in 3A basketball and 4A football with an enrollment north of 1600. Unless there's a bylaw change this spring, Elkhart will be in 5A in 2020. 

Check page 8 of the IHSAA document.

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1 minute ago, crimsonace1 said:

The IHSAA, historically, has not reclassified schools when they consolidate mid-cycle. Muncie Central competed in 3A basketball and 4A football with an enrollment north of 1600. Unless there's a bylaw change this spring, Elkhart will be in 5A in 2020. 

Not according to the IHSAA document at the top of the thread

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4A Guess

- Memorial, Harrison, Reitz, Central, Boonville, Jasper, Silver Creek

- East Central, Jennings County, Greenwood, South Dearborn, Madison, Connersville, Shelbyville, Martinsville

- Northview, Beech Groove, Mooresville, Roncalli, Crispus Attucks, Shortridge, Frankfort, Lebanon

- New Castle, Pendleton Heights, Mount Vernon, Richmond, Muncie Central, Delta, Cathedral

- Morton, Gavitt, East Chicago, Highland, Westside, Griffith, Hobart, Lowell

- Kankakee, Culver, Northridge, Plymouth, New Prairie, Riley, Clay, St. Joe

- Northwood, Wawasee, Angola, East Noble, Dekalb, Leo, Columbia City, New Haven

- Jay County, Marion, Mississinewa, Western, Huntington North, Logansport, FW South, FW Wayne

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10 minutes ago, CoachO said:

East Central, Jennings County, Greenwood, South Dearborn, Madison, Connersville, Shelbyville, Martinsville

I think instead of Martinsville, Greenfield central will come down south east, M-vill will go west or SW

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My stab at 4A

17: East Chicago, Hammond Gavit, Hammond Morton, Gary West, Highland, Griffith, Hobart, Lowell
18: Kankakee Valley, New Prairie, Culver Academy, Plymouth, SB Riley, SB St. Joseph, SB Clay, NorthWood
19: Northridge, Wawasee, East Noble, Angola, DeKalb, Columbia City, Leo, New Haven
20: FW South, FW Wayne, Huntington North, Logansport, Western, Marion, Mississinewa, Delta
21: Northview, Martinsville, Mooresville, Cathedral, Roncalli, Crispus Attucks, Shortridge, Beech Grove
22: New Castle, Greenfield-Central, Mt. Vernon, Pendleton Heights, Muncie Central, Frankfort, Lebanon
23: Madison, Jennings County, East Central, South Dearborn, Shelbyville, Connersville, Richmond, Greenwood
24: Ev. Reitz, Ev. Memorial, Ev. Harrison, Ev. Central, Boonville, Jasper, Silver Creek

3A has a LOT of gray area, especially in the north. Lots of clumps of 5-6 schools together. The realignment committee has its work cut out for it. 

25: Hammond Clark, Hammond, Calumet, River Forest, Hanover Central, Knox, Glenn, SB Washington
26: Mishawka Marian, Jimtown, Tippecanoe Valley, West Noble, Lakeland, Garrett, FW Concordia, Heritage
27: Bellmont, Norwell, Peru, Northwestern, Maconaquah, Oak Hill, Yorktown, Hamilton Heights
28: Benton Central, West Lafayette, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Brebeuf, Twin Lakes
29: Sullivan, Edgewood, Owen Valley, West Vigo, Greencastle, Danville, Tri-West, I.Ritter
30: Lawrenceburg, Batesville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Rushville, I.Manual, I.Washington, I.Chatard
31: Corydon, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Brownstown Central, Brown County, Southridge
32: Mt. Vernon (P), Ev. Bosse, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, Princeton, PIke Central, Vincennes, Washington
 

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2 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

Right on cue. 

Here's a map divided by class so you can begin gerrymandering (I mean, projecting the sectional fields) to your heart's content. 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=153gxokpw917Ny2QyJyMozaPMxkCQOyQb&usp=sharing

You have Adams Central marked in Nebraska somewhere. I think that's the only mistake besides some of them being right on top of each other.

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My stab at the 2A North-

Sectional 33- Andrean, Boone Grove, Bowman Academy, Hammond Bishop Noll, North Newton, Rensselaer Central, Wheeler, Whiting

Sectional 34- Bremen, Central Noble, Eastside, Fairfield,  LaVille, Luers, Praire Heights, Woodlan

Sectional 35- Bluffton, Delphi, Lewis Cass, Manchester, Pioneer, Rochester, Wabash, Whitko 

Sectional 36- Alexandria, Blackford, Eastern (Greentown), Eastbrook, Elwood, Frankton, Tipton, Winchester

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9 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

My stab at 4A

17: East Chicago, Hammond Gavit, Hammond Morton, Gary West, Highland, Griffith, Hobart, Lowell
18: Kankakee Valley, New Prairie, Culver Academy, Plymouth, SB Riley, SB St. Joseph, SB Clay, NorthWood
19: Northridge, Wawasee, East Noble, Angola, DeKalb, Columbia City, Leo, New Haven
20: FW South, FW Wayne, Huntington North, Logansport, Western, Marion, Mississinewa, Delta
21: Northview, Martinsville, Mooresville, Cathedral, Roncalli, Crispus Attucks, Shortridge, Beech Grove
22: New Castle, Greenfield-Central, Mt. Vernon, Pendleton Heights, Muncie Central, Frankfort, Lebanon
23: Madison, Jennings County, East Central, South Dearborn, Shelbyville, Connersville, Richmond, Greenwood
24: Ev. Reitz, Ev. Memorial, Ev. Harrison, Ev. Central, Boonville, Jasper, Silver Creek

3A has a LOT of gray area, especially in the north. Lots of clumps of 5-6 schools together. The realignment committee has its work cut out for it. 

25: Hammond Clark, Hammond, Calumet, River Forest, Hanover Central, Knox, Glenn, SB Washington
26: Mishawka Marian, Jimtown, Tippecanoe Valley, West Noble, Lakeland, Garrett, FW Concordia, Heritage
27: Bellmont, Norwell, Peru, Northwestern, Maconaquah, Oak Hill, Yorktown, Hamilton Heights
28: Benton Central, West Lafayette, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Brebeuf, Twin Lakes
29: Sullivan, Edgewood, Owen Valley, West Vigo, Greencastle, Danville, Tri-West, I.Ritter
30: Lawrenceburg, Batesville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Rushville, I.Manual, I.Washington, I.Chatard
31: Corydon, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Brownstown Central, Brown County, Southridge
32: Mt. Vernon (P), Ev. Bosse, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, Princeton, PIke Central, Vincennes, Washington
 

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My stab at 2A. Again, things are a bit tricky in the south. 

33: Whiting, Hammond Noll, Gary Bowman, Andrean, Wheeler, Boone Grove, North Newton, Rensselaer
34: LaVille, Bremen, Fairfield, Central Noble, Prairie Heights, Eastside, Woodlan, FW Luers,
35: Rochester, Pioneer, Delphi, Cass, Wabash, Manchester, Whitko, Bluffton
36: Eastbrook, Blackford, Eastern (H), Tipton, Frankton, Lapel, Winchester, Elwood
37: Northeastern, Union County, Centerville, Eastern Hancock, Triton Central, Heritage Christian, Scecina, Shenandoah, I. Howe
38: Seeger, South Vermillion, Southmont, Western Boone, North Putnam, Cascade, Monrovia, Speedway,
39: Mitchell, Paoli, Eastern, Clarksville, Providence, Switzerland County, Pekin Eastern, Triton Central
40: North Posey, Ev. Mater Dei, South Spencer, Tell City, Linton, North Knox, Forest Park, Crawford County

17 minutes ago, CoachVeatch said:

You have Adams Central marked in Nebraska somewhere. I think that's the only mistake besides some of them being right on top of each other.

Not sure what happened there but that's corrected now. 

If you zoom in, the ones on top of each other are separated. Each school's site is marked with a pin and some are pretty close together. 

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5 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

My stab at 2A. Again, things are a bit tricky in the south. 

33: Whiting, Hammond Noll, Gary Bowman, Andrean, Wheeler, Boone Grove, North Newton, Rensselaer
34: LaVille, Bremen, Fairfield, Central Noble, Prairie Heights, Eastside, Woodlan, FW Luers,
35: Rochester, Pioneer, Delphi, Cass, Wabash, Manchester, Whitko, Bluffton
36: Eastbrook, Blackford, Eastern (H), Tipton, Frankton, Lapel, Winchester, Elwood
37: Northeastern, Union County, Centerville, Eastern Hancock, Triton Central, Heritage Christian, Scecina, Shenandoah, I. Howe
38: Seeger, South Vermillion, Southmont, Western Boone, North Putnam, Cascade, Monrovia, Speedway,
39: Mitchell, Paoli, Eastern, Clarksville, Providence, Switzerland County, Pekin Eastern, Triton Central
40: North Posey, Ev. Mater Dei, South Spencer, Tell City, Linton, North Knox, Forest Park, Crawford County

Not sure what happened there but that's corrected now. 

If you zoom in, the ones on top of each other are separated. Each school's site is marked with a pin and some are pretty close together. 

In sectional 39, I think you have Eastern and Pekin Eastern. Are those different?

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A stab at 1A
41: Gary Roosevelt, Lake Station, South Central, North Judson, Culver, West Central, Winamac, Triton
42: North White, Tri-County, Frontier, Carroll (F), Caston, South Newton, Lafayette Catholic, Clinton Central
43: Fremont, Churubusco, Adams Central, South Adams, Southern Wells, Southwood, Northfield, North Miami
44: Indiana Deaf,  Park Tudor, Traders Point, Sheridan, Madison-Grant, Tri-Central, Taylor, Clinton Prairie
45: Wes-Del, Knightstown, Tri, Cambridge City Lincoln, Hagerstown, Anderson Prep, Monroe Central, Union City
46: Edinburgh, North Decatur, South Decatur, Milan, Oldenburg Academy, Lutheran, Tindley, Covenant Christian
47: Cloverdale, South Putnam, Riverton Parke, Parke Heritage, North Vermillion, Fountain Central, Covington, Attica
48: Tecumseh, Perry Central, North Central (F), Springs Valley, West Washington, North Daviess, Eastern Greene, Rock Creek

10 minutes ago, JQWL said:

In sectional 39, I think you have Eastern and Pekin Eastern. Are those different?

Nope, same school. I screwed up. I missed somebody somewhere. 

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My guess at 4A:

 

17-ECC, Gary West, Morton, Gavit, Highland, Griffith, Lowell, Hobart

18-Clay, St. Joe, Riley, New Prarie, Plymouth, NorthWood, Culver, Kankakee Valley

19 or 20-East Noble, Angola, DeKalb, Leo, Wayne, South, New Haven, Northridge

19 or 20-Logansport, Huntington North, Mississinewa, Marion, Jay County, Columbia City, Wawasee, Delta

21-Western, Lebanon, Frankfort, Shortridge, Cathedral, Crispus Attucks, Mooresville, Martinsville

22-Greenfield-Central, Beech Grove, Roncalli, Greenwood, New Castle, Muncie Central, Mt. Vernon, Pendleton Heights

23-Richmond, Connersville, East Central, South Dearborn, Jennings County, Madison, Silver Creek, Shelbyville

24- Ev. Reitz, Ev. Central, Ev. Harrison, Ev. Memorial, Boonville, Jasper, Northview

 

made more sense to send Northview south than Silver Creek west. Plus, this splits Cathedral and Roncalli. (I know. Pipe dream that won’t happen, but it makes a lot of sense on the map.)

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3 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

My mistake.  I guess they are going to go down the path of reclassifying every year now.

I think it's a unique situation that was created with Elkhart consolidation, which created such a large new school that they couldn't leave in 4a or 5a.   I do not see this as a norm going forward as it was just an odd year.  On top of that how would SF work in just 1 year cycles?  Just my two cents

3 hours ago, QB said:

When do the sectional alignments come out? 

yea what he said below

2 hours ago, ts32 said:

Early May the IHSAA press release said.

 

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3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I think it's a unique situation that was created with Elkhart consolidation, which created such a large new school that they couldn't leave in 4a or 5a.   I do not see this as a norm going forward as it was just an odd year.  On top of that how would SF work in just 1 year cycles?  Just my two cents

 

I can certainly understand the reason the IHSAA would move the combined Elkhart up.  They must think it is an absolute certainty that they will have a 6A enrollment.  Yet they are not classifying Indianapolis Riverside (which doesn’t have football yet) as a 3A school even though they currently have only grades 9 and 10.  As they add 2 grades over the next 2 years, they will most likely have a 3A enrollment. So do they get moved up?  To me, this is a bad move because it breaks with precedent and puts the IHSAA in a position where they have to start moving schools up mid-cycle.  It doesn’t happen often, but if they don’t do it in another similar situation you can bet there will be a LAWSUIT.  Probably in a Lake County Court (Griffith joke).

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18 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

My stab at 4A

17: East Chicago, Hammond Gavit, Hammond Morton, Gary West, Highland, Griffith, Hobart, Lowell
18: Kankakee Valley, New Prairie, Culver Academy, Plymouth, SB Riley, SB St. Joseph, SB Clay, NorthWood
19: Northridge, Wawasee, East Noble, Angola, DeKalb, Columbia City, Leo, New Haven
20: FW South, FW Wayne, Huntington North, Logansport, Western, Marion, Mississinewa, Delta
21: Northview, Martinsville, Mooresville, Cathedral, Roncalli, Crispus Attucks, Shortridge, Beech Grove
22: New Castle, Greenfield-Central, Mt. Vernon, Pendleton Heights, Muncie Central, Frankfort, Lebanon
23: Madison, Jennings County, East Central, South Dearborn, Shelbyville, Connersville, Richmond, Greenwood
24: Ev. Reitz, Ev. Memorial, Ev. Harrison, Ev. Central, Boonville, Jasper, Silver Creek

3A has a LOT of gray area, especially in the north. Lots of clumps of 5-6 schools together. The realignment committee has its work cut out for it. 

25: Hammond Clark, Hammond, Calumet, River Forest, Hanover Central, Knox, Glenn, SB Washington
26: Mishawka Marian, Jimtown, Tippecanoe Valley, West Noble, Lakeland, Garrett, FW Concordia, Heritage
27: Bellmont, Norwell, Peru, Northwestern, Maconaquah, Oak Hill, Yorktown, Hamilton Heights
28: Benton Central, West Lafayette, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Brebeuf, Twin Lakes
29: Sullivan, Edgewood, Owen Valley, West Vigo, Greencastle, Danville, Tri-West, I.Ritter
30: Lawrenceburg, Batesville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Rushville, I.Manual, I.Washington, I.Chatard
31: Corydon, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Brownstown Central, Brown County, Southridge
32: Mt. Vernon (P), Ev. Bosse, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, Princeton, PIke Central, Vincennes, Washington
 

4A is missing Jay County - Likely winding up in your projected Sectional 20, pushing Delta to 22?

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18 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

My stab at 4A

17: East Chicago, Hammond Gavit, Hammond Morton, Gary West, Highland, Griffith, Hobart, Lowell
18: Kankakee Valley, New Prairie, Culver Academy, Plymouth, SB Riley, SB St. Joseph, SB Clay, NorthWood
19: Northridge, Wawasee, East Noble, Angola, DeKalb, Columbia City, Leo, New Haven
20: FW South, FW Wayne, Huntington North, Logansport, Western, Marion, Mississinewa, Delta
21: Northview, Martinsville, Mooresville, Cathedral, Roncalli, Crispus Attucks, Shortridge, Beech Grove
22: New Castle, Greenfield-Central, Mt. Vernon, Pendleton Heights, Muncie Central, Frankfort, Lebanon
23: Madison, Jennings County, East Central, South Dearborn, Shelbyville, Connersville, Richmond, Greenwood
24: Ev. Reitz, Ev. Memorial, Ev. Harrison, Ev. Central, Boonville, Jasper, Silver Creek

3A has a LOT of gray area, especially in the north. Lots of clumps of 5-6 schools together. The realignment committee has its work cut out for it. 

25: Hammond Clark, Hammond, Calumet, River Forest, Hanover Central, Knox, Glenn, SB Washington
26: Mishawka Marian, Jimtown, Tippecanoe Valley, West Noble, Lakeland, Garrett, FW Concordia, Heritage
27: Bellmont, Norwell, Peru, Northwestern, Maconaquah, Oak Hill, Yorktown, Hamilton Heights
28: Benton Central, West Lafayette, North Montgomery, Crawfordsville, Guerin Catholic, Brebeuf, Twin Lakes
29: Sullivan, Edgewood, Owen Valley, West Vigo, Greencastle, Danville, Tri-West, I.Ritter
30: Lawrenceburg, Batesville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Rushville, I.Manual, I.Washington, I.Chatard
31: Corydon, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, Charlestown, Brownstown Central, Brown County, Southridge
32: Mt. Vernon (P), Ev. Bosse, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, Princeton, PIke Central, Vincennes, Washington
 

You only have 7 teams in 28.  Here is my stab at 3A North:

25 26 27 28
Hammond Clark Knox Garrett Northwestern
Hammond John Glenn FW Concordia Yorktown
River Forest SB Washington Heritage Hamilton Heights
Calumet Mishawaka Marian Bellmont North Montgomery
Hanover Central Jimtown Norwell Crawfordsville
Twin Lakes Tippecanoe Valley Oak Hill Guerin Catholic
Benton Central West Noble Peru Brebeuf Jesuit
West Lafayette Lakeland Maconaquah Tri-West
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54 minutes ago, Knight82 said:

You only have 7 teams in 28.  Here is my stab at 3A North:

25 26 27 28
Hammond Clark Knox Garrett Northwestern
Hammond John Glenn FW Concordia Yorktown
River Forest SB Washington Heritage Hamilton Heights
Calumet Mishawaka Marian Bellmont North Montgomery
Hanover Central Jimtown Norwell Crawfordsville
Twin Lakes Tippecanoe Valley Oak Hill Guerin Catholic
Benton Central West Noble Peru Brebeuf Jesuit
West Lafayette Lakeland Maconaquah Tri-West

So you think Tri-West is more likely to go North into 28 than Chatard?  Could be, just interested in your thoughts there?

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Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3..

The IHSAA gets crazy when it comes to realigning. 

A few years back, the crew with Jumpin Jimmy driving took a long road trip to Hamilton Heights - we crushed a 30 Pack (that year HH was in the South, what the South????)

Looking at the map with the crew today.....Ritter is more South than Chatard will ever be....

Stink Town has hit 2 Tiger BL's already...but here you go IHSAA........Lawrenceburg, Batesville, Franklin County, Greensburg, Rushville, I.Manual, I.Washington, I.Ritter

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