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10 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

Yes; now answer my question.

I did.  The popular vote effectively transfers to the electoral college voters for those winner take all states.

I suggest you listen to this recent SOHO Forum/Reason debate on this topic.  Very interesting:  https://reason.com/podcast/2020/11/20/the-electoral-college-keep-or-replace-a-soho-forum-debate/

 

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4 hours ago, Muda69 said:

I did.  The popular vote effectively transfers to the electoral college voters for those winner take all states.

There is no "vote transferring". 538 people vote for the President; none of them voted for the Libertarian candidate. 

4 hours ago, Bobref said:

It will take a constitutional amendment to abolish the college, of course.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com

 

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13 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

@DE @swordfish

GSA’s Emily Murphy just signed the papers, President-elect Biden’s official transition can begin

 

As it should be.  Doesn't mean the current President's efforts will end today.  He is still the President last time I checked....The results of his efforts may be the catalyst that gives the left what they need to expel JRB and elevate KDH to become the first female President because (IMHO) that has always been their end game. 

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On 11/20/2020 at 5:53 PM, DE said:

Per President Trump's lawyer, Sidney Powell, "I would warn any state right now that thinks they're going to certify this election to re-think it VERY SERIOUSLY, because what they're certifying is their own fraud, and their own complicity in fraud.  I might even mount a class action suit later to."

 

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3 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

 

And?  Watch how it plays out.  You are obviously not watching what is happening in the background (real story).  But as a person of your persuasion and beliefs, that is not surprising at all.

Have a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving.  I know I will.

Don't put your cart before the horse.

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On 11/24/2020 at 8:22 AM, swordfish said:

As it should be.  Doesn't mean the current President's efforts will end today.  He is still the President last time I checked....The results of his efforts may be the catalyst that gives the left what they need to expel JRB and elevate KDH to become the first female President because (IMHO) that has always been their end game. 

I don't believe that was their end game.

What their end game was is to beat Donald Trump and return decency to the white house and instead of America turning it's back on the world.. well becoming leaders once again along with going forward with our republic instead of turning into an authoritarian dictatorship. 

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1 hour ago, DE said:

And?  Watch how it plays out.  You are obviously not watching what is happening in the background (real story).  But as a person of your persuasion and beliefs, that is not surprising at all.

Have a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving.  I know I will.

Don't put your cart before the horse.

YOUR POST IS PURE INSANITY AND SOMEONE NOT LIVING IN REALITY 

They've started the transition. 

Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia have certified their votes for Biden. 

Arizona will certify their votes on the 30th of November. Wisconsin's will be certified on the first of December. 

Donald Trump lost the Presidency. 

You are actively cheering for the Supreme Court to over throw the will of the people and that's SAD! 

Another screenshot. 

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5 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

 

Dante. You know what's amazing? How Rudy Giuliani has completely destroyed his public image in the past few years.

Its also crazy that people like DE and SF who say they are "pro" America but yet want the SCOTUS to over turn an election that we the American people participated in and over turn the will of majority Americans who are voting age and voted. Thats as Anti American as it gets. I just think they are too blinded by the MAGA cult they involved in. 

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46 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

Dante. You know what's amazing? How Rudy Giuliani has completely destroyed his public image in the past few years.

Its also crazy that people like DE and SF who say they are "pro" America but yet want the SCOTUS to over turn an election that we the American people participated in and over turn the will of majority Americans who are voting age and voted. Thats as Anti American as it gets. I just think they are too blinded by the MAGA cult they involved in. 

Sir (I assume, and sincerely apologize if you choose to identify differently) when did SF ever say I want SCOTUS to overturn an election?  I only want fair, honest and lawful elections.  If the President's lawyers have the evidence and can get a court to hear their case, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY a judge rules in their favor, then I would like anything illegal brought out, and those responsible punished so I can feel good about casting my vote in 2 and 4 years up the road.

Just an FYI - the US is not a simple majority democracy.  Look at a history book.

1 hour ago, TheStatGuy said:

I don't believe that was their end game.

You are welcome to your opinion.

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On 11/20/2020 at 4:08 PM, TheStatGuy said:

Counting and making results official takes time in each state.. It takes so long in fact there is a federal law that gives States more than a month to count and certify their results. There is a reason why the college electoral doesn't meet until mid december to officially vote. 

 

Im not shocked you dont know this but Fox News, Oann and Newsmax doesn't tell you this...so that explains it. 

im kinda shocked @Muda69doesn't though. 

I've been thoroughly amazed by Social Studies teachers this year.  Misunderstanding so much.  Mixing liberal and conservative economics up so much.  The ones I've read...many times don't know the history of things.   

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1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Sir (I assume, and sincerely apologize if you choose to identify differently) when did SF ever say I want SCOTUS to overturn an election?  I only want fair, honest and lawful elections.  If the President's lawyers have the evidence and can get a court to hear their case, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY a judge rules in their favor, then I would like anything illegal brought out, and those responsible punished so I can feel good about casting my vote in 2 and 4 years up the road.

Just an FYI - the US is not a simple majority democracy.  Look at a history book.

You are welcome to your opinion.

Cause you kept saying the "election isn't over". It clearly is. 

Biden won the popular vote and he won the college electoral. States have been certifying their results left and right, they've started the transition. Its over. 

You shouldn't question the election. Its quite stupid to do so honestly. If there was "illegal ballots"..  Coming from either side. You think Dems wouldn't have added the majority to the house or won senate out right. If R's casted illegal ballots. You'd think they would have won back the majority in house, won senate out right and the Presidency. 

 

And lastly

You don't make any sense. Why would they want Kamala Harris to be president shortly after Biden won? Biden is fine and he'll do a solid job. He understands policy, how the government works and how to treat our allies with respect. He'll be a president for all of us just not Cultists the way Trump was. 

Biden/Harris 2020! The best is yet to come!

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Robert said:

I've been thoroughly amazed by Social Studies teachers this year.  Misunderstanding so much.  Mixing liberal and conservative economics up so much.  The ones I've read...many times don't know the history of things.   

right? Along with above+ 

He brags about how "republicans" freed the slaves and democrats were against that along with jim crowe laws.. but he didn't even know (which is pretty common knowledge) that republicans and democrats switched platforms in the 60s...so being a "Republican" now is the equivalent of being a southern democrat. 

I weep for his history students. I can't imagine the cultist rhetoric hes sharing with his students. 

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47 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

He brags about how "republicans" freed the slaves and democrats were against that along with jim crowe laws.. but he didn't even know (which is pretty common knowledge) that republicans and democrats switched platforms in the 60s...so being a "Republican" now is the equivalent of being a southern democrat. 

 

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18 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

Biden/Harris 2020! The best is yet to come!

 

 

If you call $11 Trillion in new spending with no way to really pay for it,  more socialism,  and reduced individual liberty/personal responsibility "the best"  then frankly I feel sorry for you. 

And for America.

 

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21 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

I don't believe that was their end game.

What their end game was is to beat Donald Trump and return decency to the white house and instead of America turning it's back on the world.. well becoming leaders once again along with going forward with our republic instead of turning into an authoritarian dictatorship

Mr. Biden and Ms. Harris are both authoritarians, and have been for decades:  https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/leftist-shrieks-about-trumps-authoritarianism-attempt-to-hide-that-theyre-the-real-control-freaks/

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Conversely, Biden has consistently advocated for expanding governmental power to combat COVID-19 via more lockdowns and a national mask mandate. As vice president, Biden oversaw plenty of troublesome policies, such as Obamacare’s coercive individual mandate and, most egregiously, family separation at the border. Let’s also not forget that he has yet to disprove his involvement in a massive “pay-for-play” scandal with foreign entities while in office.

Kamala Harris, meanwhile, has a political record rife with malpractice. As California’s attorney general, she prosecuted thousands for marijuana-related offenses and punished parents of truant children. During her presidential bid, she promised to unilaterally rewrite immigration and gun laws by executive decree. Both Biden and Harris have yet to oppose adding justices to the Supreme Court in what would be a naked attempt to advance radically left policy.

Driving the Democratic Party is a radical, far-left bloc that increasingly dominates civil and corporate institutions. Inspired by various strains of Marxist thought, a favored ideology of dictators, mind you, these people have orchestrated riots in American cities for months, rallying behind an “anti-fascist” name but employing strikingly fascistic strategies: looting, destroying property, censoring, and violently coercing innocent civilians through mob-like intimidation.

Democratic representatives not only refuse to disavow these agitators but also increasingly adopt their tactics. Even before media crowned Biden the 2020 winner, for instance, members of Congress and left-leaning journalists alike requested lists of all people “complicit” in Trump’s administration. What purpose would this serve, other than future censorship, retribution, and intimidation?

Media has made much ado about returning to “normalcy,” and hopefully change in leadership will temper their biases and bring about more clear-headed coverage of American politics. Without those blinders on, they just might see how wrong they have been these past four years — but I won’t hold my breath.

 

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4 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

If you call $11 Trillion in new spending with no way to really pay for it,  more socialism,  and reduced individual liberty/personal responsibility "the best"  then frankly I feel sorry for you. 

And for America.

 

I care about healthcare. 

I care about the planet. 

I care about the rule of law. 

I want America to be respected not be the laughing stock of America. 

I want a president who is the party of all people.. Just not to his maga cult.

I want a women to have the right to choose. 

I want all people to be allowed to marry the person of their dreams. 

I want citizens united to end

I want more people to vote not less.

Thats why the best is yet to come.

Joe Biden isn't a Democratic socialist so keep flinging right wing propaganda muda. 

6 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Ahh yes. The federalist. A fox news, oann and newsmax online website. 

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