Muda69 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 For those of you that have extolled the virtues of 8-man football here on the GID: Is this kind of crud really what we want for Indiana High School football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Tundra Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Muda69 said: For those of you that have extolled the virtues of 8-man football here on the GID: Is this kind of crud really what we want for Indiana High School football? The question is, is this an outlier or the norm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHJIrish Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 A defensive battle for sure!😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Looking at maxpreps...the highest remsen scored was 71 till this same. Montezuma hit 60+ 4 times till this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/11/12/remsen-st-marys-tops-montezuma-108-94-record-breaking-iowa-8-player-game/6265698002/ A fun read. Also the combined 9-11 enrollment of the 2 schools is 155. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRules Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Staxawax said: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/11/12/remsen-st-marys-tops-montezuma-108-94-record-breaking-iowa-8-player-game/6265698002/ A fun read. Also the combined 9-11 enrollment of the 2 schools is 155. Indiana thinks they have small schools. There aren't any really small schools. Some of those upper midwest states have enrollments of less than 50 for all 4 grades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) I would like to point out that some of our smaller schools do have trouble getting the numbers for traditional football. Why is this so bad? It gives these smaller schools a chance to compete for something if this is also given a state tournament and doesn't allow @DTto use that dirty C word.... Contraction. Edited November 13, 2020 by Obi-Wan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDurham Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 How are they supposed to stop anyone with only 8 guys on defense! We have trouble stopping people with 12 or 13 on Defense! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Some people may enjoy watching this type of football. Its basically a full game of 7 on 7 drills. No blocking, not much tackling, no running game, etc. Its football without all the great stuff that we all love about the game, the physicality part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilerfan87 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 If it gives kids and schools that can't play football an opportunity to do so, who cares how many points they score? I am all for it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, boilerfan87 said: If it gives kids and schools that can't play football an opportunity to do so, who cares how many points they score? I am all for it. We are in a period of contraction, downsizing and consolidation due to the financial and economioc fallout from the COVID Pandemic. Now is not the time to be adding 8 man football to already cash strapped athletic departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilerfan87 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, DT said: We are in a period of contraction, downsizing and consolidation due to the financial and economioc fallout from the COVID Pandemic. Now is not the time to be adding 8 man football to already cash strapped athletic departments. I agree. The 8-man proposal for Indiana was also fairly recently tabled. So I do not expect such a thing any time soon. I hope it is revisited once economic situations stabilize. I also don't think it would be a bad thing for some current 11-man teams to potentially play 8-man instead. It would give them an opportunity to be more competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilUrb Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I loved it while in school at Nebraska. I am not sure every game was that high of a score, from what I remember both teams were usually around 40+. From a fans standpoint it is a lot of action and exciting to watch. It is a completely different game, and I think is a very viable option to keep supporting football at every level in Indiana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Title IX will stop 8 man football in Indiana. In order for the IHSAA to sanction 8 man football in Indiana they would have to sanction another girls sport. The only one that is close is women’s wrestling to being a sanctioned sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Julio said: Title IX will stop 8 man football in Indiana. In order for the IHSAA to sanction 8 man football in Indiana they would have to sanction another girls sport. The only one that is close is women’s wrestling to being a sanctioned sports. Bring in field hockey for a new girls sport, yeah it takes away from soccer and volleyball, but if the worry is making sure we have enough sports that is one that could be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHJIrish Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I enjoyed Arena football where the team ahead by 10 points with a minute left wasn't taking a knee. I don't mind seeing skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRules Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Julio said: Title IX will stop 8 man football in Indiana. In order for the IHSAA to sanction 8 man football in Indiana they would have to sanction another girls sport. The only one that is close is women’s wrestling to being a sanctioned sports. I'm not an expert, but I don't believe that's the case. In most states it's just treated as another class of football. There could be participation numbers that come into play, but it's not adding another sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonace1 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Julio said: Title IX will stop 8 man football in Indiana. In order for the IHSAA to sanction 8 man football in Indiana they would have to sanction another girls sport. The only one that is close is women’s wrestling to being a sanctioned sports. 8-man football isn't another sport, it's simply an addition to boys football. Title IX won't be an issue. Lacrosse would work, but their teams don't want the IHSAA to sponsor it because they don't want to give up playing on Sundays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 The IHSAA said that 8 man football would be seen as an additional sport, just like unified flag football. They stated this when the IFCA proposed 8 man football back in the summer to the IHSAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonecrusher Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, JustRules said: Indiana thinks they have small schools. There aren't any really small schools. Some of those upper midwest states have enrollments of less than 50 for all 4 grades. I agree. My wife's senior class had 74 kids IIRC (Southern Wells '88). They thought they were tiny; and they were by Indiana standards. When we moved to Texas, we found out what smalls schools really are. My kids class sizes were 44, 48 & 53. 2A school. There are many 1A's here with 9-12 enrollment below 100. Many of them are in west/northwest TX. Edited November 13, 2020 by Bonecrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 What about recruiting, are players from 8 man teams just as likely to be recruited as players from 11 man teams ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, CoachDurham said: How are they supposed to stop anyone with only 8 guys on defense! We have trouble stopping people with 12 or 13 on Defense! Dang. I must've missed the extras last year. Sorry Coach. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Isn't football a mixed gender sport like wrestling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 18 hours ago, DT said: We are in a period of contraction, downsizing and consolidation due to the financial and economioc fallout from the COVID Pandemic. Now is not the time to be adding 8 man football to already cash strapped athletic departments. Stop dude. 17 hours ago, boilerfan87 said: I agree. The 8-man proposal for Indiana was also fairly recently tabled. So I do not expect such a thing any time soon. I hope it is revisited once economic situations stabilize. I also don't think it would be a bad thing for some current 11-man teams to potentially play 8-man instead. It would give them an opportunity to be more competitive. I think the MWC schools besides North Newton was pushing that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahoosierfan Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 23 hours ago, CoachDurham said: How are they supposed to stop anyone with only 8 guys on defense! We have trouble stopping people with 12 or 13 on Defense! It is a significantly smaller field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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