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1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC


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22 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Well.... the only questions I have left r .... Will J Harrel update his prediction making Lcc 45pt dogs?  And ... will the game even b played.......

Perhaps (they play the game on the field, everyone has an "opinion"....  you know the rest) and Yes...

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@Thor77 are the Starfires healthy since a few came off the field last week? Are you concerned about the secondary after a couple DBs got picked on? It took getting pressure to help them out and turn the tide.

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26 minutes ago, Basementbias said:

@Thor77 are the Starfires healthy since a few came off the field last week? Are you concerned about the secondary after a couple DBs got picked on? It took getting pressure to help them out and turn the tide.

As far as I know everyone is good to go. I think our DBs will be fine, that was the first time we faced a team that could pass like that in two years. They actually had decent coverage, but Farr was dropping dimes and those receivers made plays. Did much better after some adjustments. 

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19 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

Can we change the title to LCC @ South Adams?  

Probably going to need the mods/admins on that one at this point.

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9 hours ago, foxbat said:

The items that I put in the post were from the IHSAA.org website ... in the tournament pairings area which talks about the pairings show, the pairings, and the rules for hosting.  There's nothing that signifies any special treatment in altering home/away based on forfeits, COVID, etc.

Even if the bye thing applied down the line, it wouldn't have impacted LCC because, even with a bye, LCC played away at Winamac the week AFTER their bye.  In other words, whether LCC was at home or on the road for the game that was forfeited, LCC would have played at Winamac.

As I stated in my original post covering this, "The only way that South Adams would serve as host is if you altered LCC's away game with TPCS and not only gave the a win, but also changed the bracket and made them home.  In that case, South Adams would be home for semi-state because they are Sectional 43, the higher section number, and LCC is sectional 42."  This may well be where the IHSAA is going with this if it's going to be scheduled at South Adams now, but it also seems odd that there's no mention or addendum on the IHSAA site, at least as of a couple of days ago, as to how they were handling forfeits which would lead you to believe it was as usual.  With that said, I don't know what the IHSAA sends to its member schools, so the only thing the common guys have to go on is what's on their site.

 

According to the local Ft Wayne tv news... thats exactly what the Ihsaa did....  altered the sec title away game that wasn't played w TPC ....to a hm game win for Lcc

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7 hours ago, Basementbias said:

I'm hoping that AC's enrollment doesn't push them up to 2A with LCC moving up and Pioneer staying up. Plus SA will be talented, but not this talented. We have some good classes with this years freshman who will be sophomores and juniors that will be seniors in '21. Knowing our luck, we will bump up to 2A with Luers and Eastside.

There's a shot. I looked at last year's enrollment at a few schools (8-11) and heres what those enrollments were (i understand schools do lose kids/gain kids)  

Northeastern 417 (2a currently)
Lake Station 403 (1a currently)
LaVille 382 (2a currently)
Clinton Prairie 380 (1a currently)
Seeger 373 (2a currently)
Adams Central 370
Busco 368
Bowman Academy 366 (2a currently)
Madison Grant 365
South Adams 365
North Newton 359 (2a currently)
Winamac 358
Taylor 346 
Milan 326 
Cloverdale 326

Taylor and Milan were the two biggest 1a schools last cycle if I remember right..

1a loses Central Catholic and potentially West Washington. They also lost Gary Roosevelt. 2a has lost Howe already. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Whoops gotta take that bac.... barring a rule change... an unlikely as it may be.... Pioneer and Lcc could take turns winning a Reg the next 2 yrs.... causing both to stay 2A... 

They could. I don't see it though.

Central Catholic is gonna be silly good the next two years. I think Pioneer will have enough around next year to do damage but im not sure what they'll be after that. Their talent levels at sophomore, freshman, 8th and 7th aren't the usual Pioneer level. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Wouldn't SA also been at home if not for the Wimamac upset of NJ... as Lcc would have then been sched at hm for Reg..... only the ishaa can say for sure.... but I think it all jus progresses as it normally would... whic I what I thout the Ihsaa said at the beginning.... who knows?

I don't call the Winamac win an upset. 

The first match up was 7-0 until about a min and a half to go until half. 

The 2nd time around.. Winamac was running a completely different offense, had virtually a new offensive line and didn't have the miscues they had first time around. 

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12 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Yes..... this yr is the last harrah for Lcc in 1A for at least the next 2yrs... next yr they join Andrean, RC, Luers Easbrook,Tipton ect in 2A... Pioneer an Lcc replacing Webo who joined SR in 3A ... and EM, BC in 4A and so it goes...... 

Eastbrook

Luers

Andrean

Rensselaer

Pioneer

Central Catholic

Tipton

Maybe South Adams, Adams Central and Busco (depending on enrollment)

2a could be scary good. 

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6 hours ago, Yuccaguy said:

Thank goodness for "Temptation" for glossing the information already put forward way beyond his showing up regarding the site change.

Some of us would NEVER have been availed of the situation!     🤣🤣

I do what I can...

Here to protect and serve.

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10 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

There's a shot. I looked at last year's enrollment at a few schools (8-11) and heres what those enrollments were (i understand schools do lose kids/gain kids)  

Northeastern 417 (2a currently)
Lake Station 403 (1a currently)
LaVille 382 (2a currently)
Clinton Prairie 380 (1a currently)
Seeger 373 (2a currently)
Adams Central 370
Busco 368
Bowman Academy 366 (2a currently)
Madison Grant 365
South Adams 365
North Newton 359 (2a currently)
Winamac 358
Taylor 346 
Milan 326 
Cloverdale 326

Taylor and Milan were the two biggest 1a schools last cycle if I remember right..

1a loses Central Catholic and potentially West Washington. They also lost Gary Roosevelt. 2a has lost Howe already. 

 

 

Don't be so hasty to think Andrean is in 2a,   They have less than 390 students in their building.  

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6 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

Eastbrook

Luers

Andrean

Rensselaer

Pioneer

Central Catholic

Tipton

Maybe South Adams, Adams Central and Busco (depending on enrollment)

2a could be scary good. 

Eastside is every bit as good as Luers and they return a lot of talent so add them to the list.

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2-5 Reclassification of Schools in Team Sports Due to Previous Tournament Series Success In Team Sports, Schools shall be subject to reclassification every Two (2) years on a sportby-sport basis dependent on the School’s previous tournament series success. a. Schools shall earn the assigned point values for the final level of the tournament series they achieve as follows: (1.) Sectional Championship - One (1) point (2.) Regional Championship - Two (2) points (3.) Semi State Championship - Three (3) points (4.) State Championship - Four (4) points b. Upon the conclusion of a Two (2) year reclassification and realignment cycle, Schools in Classes below the largest enrollment Class in a specific sport achieving Six (6) points or greater due to tournament series success shall move up to the next largest enrollment classification for the next Two (2) year reclassification and realignment cycle. c. After participation in a larger enrollment classification for Two (2) years, a School achieving a Two (2) year total tournament series success point value of One (1) point or below in a specific sport shall be placed in the classification immediately below the Enrollment classification the School occupied during the previous two (2) year cycle unless the Enrollment of the School dictates the same or higher classification previously occupied in that sport. d. After participation in a larger enrollment classification for Two (2) years, a School achieving a tournament series success point value of Two (2), Three (3), Four (4) or Five (5) points in a specific sport shall remain in the same classification in that sport for the next Two (2) years. e. After participation in a larger enrollment classification for Two (2) years, a School achieving a tournament series success point value of Six (6) points or greater in a specific sport shall move up to the next largest enrollment classification for the next Two (2) year reclassification and realignment cycle if their previous classification was below the largest enrollment Class in that sport

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10 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:

Clinton Prairie 380 (1a currently)

Yeah, with the advent of open enrollment CP has been poaching students from it's main rival, Clinton Central.    The last I heard CC's 9-12 enrollment is now considerably less, around 270,  where the two schools used to have a roughly equivalent enrollment.

 

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