MHSTigerFan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 22 hours ago, TigerFan20 said: Not to sound rude, but their sideline was very thin I’ve been told they had some players who haven’t exactly warmed to Coach Zirkelbach’s slightly more strenuous brand of discipline. I don’t know if that means they quit or were suspended or what. But there’s no question they had fewer players on the sideline last night than were listed on the roster and than they had their first couple games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said: I’ve been told they had some players who haven’t exactly warmed to Coach Zirkelbach’s slightly more strenuous brand of discipline. I don’t know if that means they quit or were suspended or what. But there’s no question they had fewer players on the sideline last night than were listed on the roster and than they had their first couple games. Good explanation too, I did see 10-12 players too in street clothes, with some on crutches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSTigerFan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said: Good explanation too, I did see 10-12 players too in street clothes, with some on crutches If what I heard was true (and it was a good source, but second hand), then you just have to feel for the pressures HS coaches have these days. Apparently, Coultis was more permissive. And that’s part of the problem AZ has. Burgess was tougher (as evidenced by his dismissing the Evans kid). And we saw how long he lasted. How is a coach supposed to win while insisting on at least some accountability for off-the-field stuff? It’s a heckuva dilemma…and obviously some coaches feel the best answer is to just look the other way. If what I heard was right, my hat’s off to Zirkelbach for trying to instill a better culture…even if at the expense of his team’s success on the field. That has to be hard considering how much success they’ve had of late. 1 minute ago, MHSTigerFan said: If what I heard was true (and it was a good source, but second hand), then you just have to feel for the pressures HS coaches have these days. Apparently, Coultis was more permissive. And that’s part of the problem AZ has. Burgess was tougher (as evidenced by his dismissing the Evans kid). And we saw how long he lasted. How is a coach supposed to win while insisting on at least some accountability for off-the-field stuff? It’s a heckuva dilemma…and obviously some coaches feel the best answer is to just look the other way. If what I heard was right, my hat’s off to Zirkelbach for trying to instill a better culture…even if at the expense of his team’s success on the field. That has to be hard considering how much success they’ve had of late. Now that I think about it, it was Coultis who dismissed Tor’jon, wasn’t it? Edited September 5, 2021 by MHSTigerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said: If what I heard was true (and it was a good source, but second hand), then you just have to feel for the pressures HS coaches have these days. Apparently, Coultis was more permissive. And that’s part of the problem AZ has. tougher (as evidenced by his dismissing the Evans kid). And we saw how long he lasted. How is a coach supposed to win while insisting on at least some accountability for off-the-field stuff? It’s a heckuva dilemma…and obviously some coaches feel the best answer is to just look the other way. If what I heard was right, my hat’s off to Zirkelbach for trying to instill a better culture…even if at the expense of his team’s success on the field. That has to be hard considering how much success they’ve had of late. I hope AZ has a successful career, I think it’s great job starting a newer culture. I did here some other things regrading Central, but I will keep that in private. 10 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said: 10 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said: Now that I think about it, it was Coultis who dismissed Tor’jon, wasn’t it? Yes, it was him who dismissed Tor’jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) Week 3 notes Positives: -Welcome to the win column North, took a hard fought victory against Harrison, but a win is a win. Maybe an 2nd straight win against Reitz this week? -Those Tigers are ball hungry. 4 forced turnovers by the Memorial Defense and nice offensive plays in a 42-7 romp over Central, spoiling senior night for the Bears. Memorial is slowly getting better, let’s see how they do against Mater Dei. -Tony Lewis and Jasper, that is all. I will feel bad for Bosse come Friday night. - MD gets a nice little win over VL and improves 3-0 in the SIAC, big one against Memorial coming up. Revenge game from last year’s 13-10 loss -Castle disrupts an 2-0 Bosse in a 49-0 romp, where Castle was booming on all cylinders. These next 2 games should be good practice until the Reitz game. Negatives: - After taking an early 6-0 advantage over North after the 1Q, North eventually went on a 21-0 run taking full control, the woes continue for Harrison, will they eventually win a game? - Poor showing by the Bears on their own field after 2 close fights against Mater Dei (L 14-24) and Bosse (L 34-36), especially on Senior Night. The Bears seemed to have given up after halftime, though to be fair, they were low on depth. Can the Bears change their season around or will they face their first losing season in 7 years? -Man oh man Reitz! What Happened Friday night? It seemed like everything was going to super well in the 1st half and poof, Jasper drops 28 points on you in the 2nd half. These next 4 weeks will be huge for the Panthers -Nothing much say Alices, going to be a long season, but I will give you credit for holding Mater Dei below 35 points in the game. -Poor Bosse, 2-0 start for the first time in 27 years and looking forward to make an statement against Castle. And well, the night did not pan out as you wanted, and now face an gauntlet on your remaining schedule for the next 5 weeks. Edited September 5, 2021 by TigerFan20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshiners Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Bears over Alices by 7 Knights over Warriors by 30 Panthers over Huskies by 7 Wildcats over Bulldogs by 35 game of the week America’s team over the Cake eaters by 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAL_63 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 16 hours ago, TigerFan20 said: Week 3 notes Positives: -Welcome to the win column North, took a hard fought victory against Harrison, but a win is a win. Maybe an 2nd straight win against Reitz this week? -Those Tigers are ball hungry. 4 forced turnovers by the Memorial Defense and nice offensive plays in a 42-7 romp over Central, spoiling senior night for the Bears. Memorial is slowly getting better, let’s see how they do against Mater Dei. -Tony Lewis and Jasper, that is all. I will feel bad for Bosse come Friday night. - MD gets a nice little win over VL and improves 3-0 in the SIAC, big one against Memorial coming up. Revenge game from last year’s 13-10 loss -Castle disrupts an 2-0 Bosse in a 49-0 romp, where Castle was booming on all cylinders. These next 2 games should be good practice until the Reitz game. Negatives: - After taking an early 6-0 advantage over North after the 1Q, North eventually went on a 21-0 run taking full control, the woes continue for Harrison, will they eventually win a game? - Poor showing by the Bears on their own field after 2 close fights against Mater Dei (L 14-24) and Bosse (L 34-36), especially on Senior Night. The Bears seemed to have given up after halftime, though to be fair, they were low on depth. Can the Bears change their season around or will they face their first losing season in 7 years? -Man oh man Reitz! What Happened Friday night? It seemed like everything was going to super well in the 1st half and poof, Jasper drops 28 points on you in the 2nd half. These next 4 weeks will be huge for the Panthers -Nothing much say Alices, going to be a long season, but I will give you credit for holding Mater Dei below 35 points in the game. The final score wasn't much of an indicator, but Lincoln left the Reitz Bowl with a much better feeling than they did a week ago. This was only a 7-0 game until the waning seconds of the 1st half when MD made it 14-0 at the break. If they are going muster a win or two in the conference, it's gonna have to be on the back of the defense. So many young guys and first time players offensively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, SEAL_63 said: The final score wasn't much of an indicator, but Lincoln left the Reitz Bowl with a much better feeling than they did a week ago. This was only a 7-0 game until the waning seconds of the 1st half when MD made it 14-0 at the break. If they are going muster a win or two in the conference, it's gonna have to be on the back of the defense. So many young guys and first time players offensively. That’s some good news for VL then, I only saw the final score and the game box, so my knowledge of the game, other than stats, is little 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 MasseyRatings predictions Central(-20) over VL, 72% chance of victory for the Bears Castle(-32) over Harrison, 98% chance of victory for the Knights Memorial(-10) over Mater Dei, 72% chance of victory for the Tigers Jasper (-28) over Bosse, 92% chance of victory for the Cats Reitz (-7) over North, 62% chance of victory for the Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSTigerFan Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, TigerFan20 said: MasseyRatings predictions Central(-20) over VL, 72% chance of victory for the Bears Castle(-32) over Harrison, 98% chance of victory for the Knights Memorial(-10) over Mater Dei, 72% chance of victory for the Tigers Jasper (-28) over Bosse, 92% chance of victory for the Cats Reitz (-7) over North, 62% chance of victory for the Panthers I think Central should be favored to beat VL. But 20? I have a hard time imagining the Central team I saw the other night beating too many teams by 20. MD/Memorial seems off, too. That game is probably a pick ‘em….maybe MD a slight favorite. Should be a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said: I think Central should be favored to beat VL. But 20? I have a hard time imagining the Central team I saw the other night beating too many teams by 20. MD/Memorial seems off, too. That game is probably a pick ‘em….maybe MD a slight favorite. Should be a good game. About to say that, probably not going to pick who wins that game, too close to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAL_63 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Gonna pick Big Green for their first W this week at Inman. Why not? VL 20 Central 14 Castle 35 Harrison 14 Memorial 24 MD 21 Jasper 42 Bosse 14 Reitz 35 North 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, SEAL_63 said: VL 20 Central 14 Guessing the Alices feel good against Central? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAL_63 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said: Guessing the Alices feel good against Central? Can't speak for the coaching staff...just my opinion based on some things that happened last Friday. And the simple fact that Vincennes kids aren't going to quit. 0-3 in the SIAC is not a death sentence. They see this as a great opportunity to get in the win column and will want to seize it at home. And home field at Inman, I believe, takes on a new meaning as a member of this conference as compared to the Big 8. We fared pretty well at home in 2020, even in defeat. Edited September 6, 2021 by SEAL_63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, SEAL_63 said: Can't speak for the coaching staff...just my opinion based on some things that happened last Friday. And the simple fact that Vincennes kids aren't going to quit. 0-3 in the SIAC is not a death sentence. They see this as a great opportunity to get in the win column and will want to seize it at home. And home field at Inman, I believe, takes on a new meaning as a member of this conference as compared to the Big 8. In my opinion, I think VL will give Central a fight this time. Unsure who will win, should be a defensive slug fest o/u 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAL_63 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said: In my opinion, I think VL will give Central a fight this time. Unsure who will win, should be a defensive slug fest o/u 35 I'll take the under LOL. And I'm not discounting Central's ability in anyway. But they are clearly going through rebuild similar to VL. Levi Salters and co will need to have their best game to date to pull of the W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SEAL_63 said: I'll take the under LOL. And I'm not discounting Central's ability in anyway. But they are clearly going through rebuild similar to VL. Levi Salters and co will need to have their best game to date to pull of the W. I think it will end up being like a 18-10 type of game. VL defense needs to do their best to force turnovers on the Central O, since it’s possible. If you guys do, I think the Alices will be happy Friday night. For Central, they need to figure out a better offensive game plan and probably rework their O-line again. Since, correct me if I am wrong, VL does have a speedy defense Edited September 6, 2021 by TigerFan20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAL_63 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TigerFan20 said: I think it will end up being like a 18-10 type of game. VL defense needs to do their best to force turnovers on the Central O, since it’s possible. If you guys do, I think the Alices will be happy Friday night. For Central, they need to figure out a better offensive game plan and probably rework their O-line again. Since, correct me if I am wrong, VL does have a speedy defense Yes, speedy would be pretty accurate. Now that has been put to the test against higher competition no doubt. But they have guys who can set the edge. And their secondary is probably one of the most experienced units on the team. However, we've struggled with some young guys in the front 7 so far this year. But one thing you can count on with a Coach Salters' (he was a middle linebacker back in the day) squad is a hard nosed, hot pursuit defense, and the unit you will see improve the most year in and out. The problem the past two years has been the amount of time the defense is on the field and just wearing out. Edited September 6, 2021 by SEAL_63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDAlum82 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 14 hours ago, SEAL_63 said: The final score wasn't much of an indicator, but Lincoln left the Reitz Bowl with a much better feeling than they did a week ago. This was only a 7-0 game until the waning seconds of the 1st half when MD made it 14-0 at the break. If they are going muster a win or two in the conference, it's gonna have to be on the back of the defense. So many young guys and first time players offensively. Lots of young talent on the VL Defense. Seemed most were Sophomores & Juniors on D. DBs are very fast and come up on the run very quickly. They gave MD fits with the blitz the entire 1st half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 IFCA 5A: 12. Castle 4A: 5. Jasper 14. Memorial 2A: 4. Mater Dei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screagle Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I like VL over Central. Not only do the bears lack overall talent and depth it sounds like the wheels are coming off the bus. Lots of finger pointing by players, asst coaches, and dads that are too close to the program. Please let Memorial draw Central week 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Screagle said: Please let Memorial draw Central week 10. It will end up being Memorial against Jasper, gut feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 BREAKING NEWS: Jasper’s Connor Foley has committed to IU to play baseball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFan20 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Picks: It will be a fun Friday night in Vincennes, Give me the Alices over the Bears by 7 It will be an early night for the Knights in Paradise, Castle has a running clock after the 2H, Castle by 35 Sorry Bulldogs, but Jasper is the better team Friday night. Jasper by 38 Big night for North and Reitz at the famous Reitz Bowl. I’ll take Reitz in this one by 10 Game of the Week Memorial. Mater Dei. Hurley vs Goebels. O/u 45, my pick? I pick the under 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshiners Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 If Memorial gets lucky and wins this weekend I’ve been told that the west side nut club members will ban them from the fall festival and if any of the players or fans dare try to show up that they’ll be sprayed with ski through a fire hose…this is just what I heard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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