MICFan34 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) LOL, have at it @DT... I’ll have my popcorn ready. Edited December 7, 2020 by temptation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICFan34 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 https://twitter.com/KyleNeddenriep/status/1336061123179778049?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) This stuff just writes itself. Edited December 7, 2020 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 What does this say about the WC feeder pipeline? Feels like Bret Bielema leaving Wisconsin for Arkansas. Why??? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, DT said: What does this say about the WC feeder pipeline? Feels like Bret Bielema leaving Wisconsin for Arkansas. Why??? LOL Kirschner leaves BD for Mount Vernon... West leaves Warren for Franklin Central. Its not that hard to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, temptation said: Kirschner leaves BD for Mount Vernon... West leaves Warren for Franklin Central. Its not that hard to figure out. Maybe Kevin Wright comes back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, DT said: Maybe Kevin Wright comes back No coaching rumors allowed, lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBH Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 lets hope coach West is an expert in turd shining because he's gonna need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, temptation said: Kirschner leaves BD for Mount Vernon... West leaves Warren for Franklin Central. Its not that hard to figure out. It started with Center Grove...now spilling into Avon, Brownsburg, New Pal, Mt Vernon. Everyone wants that suburbia life. No one is willing to roll up their sleeves in the inner city big schools- minus O’Shea is it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, jets said: It started with Center Grove...now spilling into Avon, Brownsburg, New Pal, Mt Vernon. Everyone wants that suburbia life. No one is willing to roll up their sleeves in the inner city big schools- minus O’Shea is it?? I don’t know. Everyone on here told me for months that BD and WC were destination jobs and that the suggestion that they were a shell of their former selves was overstated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgebuster Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) What is the coaching salary at a Mt. Vernon or New Pal like compared to Warren or BD? The formula for how teacher raises are tied to student enrolled is probably more important. If you're a teacher and not at the top of the pay scale, the only place to be is in a growing school district. How some of these young teacher coaches keep making it work at schools where enrollment is stagnant or heading in the wrong direction beats me. Imagine being hired in at $34K then being told that the only way to increase your salary is if enrollment increases and "New Funds" become available. Edited December 7, 2020 by Wedgebuster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The County MIC schools are the new IPS. The destination jobs are now outside Marion County. Big city sprawl. Gotta have a ton of patience to run a MIC program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, temptation said: I don’t know. Everyone on here told me for months that BD and WC were destination jobs and that the suggestion that they were a shell of their former selves was overstated. I’d still think that many coaches view WC as a destination job and that many will be chomping at the bit to apply for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatQueen Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 This is a systemic and generational problem. When you're new, You're fresh and appealing. When you've been there a few years, you're old and uninspiring. Today's players and parents are Coach Killers. This is the new norm. When you have the selfishness of travel sports culture infecting all youth sports this is what you get. Add in a challenging clientele that a big school brings. Forget about it. Smart move by Coach West. Regardless of how they finish, he'll be happier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, scarab527 said: I’d still think that many coaches view WC as a destination job and that many will be chomping at the bit to apply for it. Depends on prior experiences and where you are at in your career in my opinion. 7 minutes ago, StatQueen said: This is a systemic and generational problem. When you're new, You're fresh and appealing. When you've been there a few years, you're old and uninspiring. Today's players and parents are Coach Killers. This is the new norm. When you have the selfishness of travel sports culture infecting all youth sports this is what you get. Add in a challenging clientele that a big school brings. Forget about it. Smart move by Coach West. Regardless of how they finish, he'll be happier. True but a lot of assuming on your part here. You seem to have insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Mike Kirschner left with no immediate intention of going anywhere else. Mount Vernon came after him. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/12/07/ihsaa-football-warren-central-coach-jayson-west-leaves-franklin-central-indiana/6481998002/ Kyle Neddenriep's story. I respect Jayson West a lot. He is a good man, and I hope he does well at FC. He's done a good job at Warren Central. Edited December 7, 2020 by BDGiant93 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, DT said: Maybe Kevin Wright comes back He's not leaving IU's rocket ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Obvious coaches for WC job: 1) Kyle Ralph - You all know why. BUT, I think now is a great time for Ralph to move on. I'm sure he could bring most of his assistants with him as well since both schools are close geographically... 2) Mike Kirschner - WC alum and maybe he misses the "grind" Not so obvious: 3) Justin Pelley (Webo) - he can clearly coach ball with 3 state championships. Does he want a taste of the MIC 4) Darrin Fisher (Whiteland) - he could really run his offense at a place like WC 5) Nick Hart (Gibson Southern) - 9th year at GS and seems like a guy WC could have for 10+ years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, BDGiant93 said: Mike Kirschner left with no immediate intention of going anywhere else. Mount Vernon came after him. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/12/07/ihsaa-football-warren-central-coach-jayson-west-leaves-franklin-central-indiana/6481998002/ Kyle Neddenriep's story. I respect Jayson West a lot. He is a good man, and I hope he does well at FC. He's done a good job at Warren Central. I echo this!! I am sure Warran will attract a tremendous application pool to choose from. Coaches make decisions on variety of reasons, none of around these parts would have a clue to those reasons, just saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Knightmare said: Obvious coaches for WC job: 1) Kyle Ralph - You all know why. BUT, I think now is a great time for Ralph to move on. I'm sure he could bring most of his assistants with him as well since both schools are close geographically... 2) Mike Kirschner - WC alum and maybe he misses the "grind" Not so obvious: 3) Justin Pelley (Webo) - he can clearly coach ball with 3 state championships. Does he want a taste of the MIC 4) Darrin Fisher (Whiteland) - he could really run his offense at a place like WC 5) Nick Hart (Gibson Southern) - 9th year at GS and seems like a guy WC could have for 10+ years None of the above in my opinion. @Coach Nowlin, may I give my prediction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 We draw the line of "I heard Vince Lombardi was at Warren talking to so and so." " I was told by .... that ..... " and also. " I know what is going to happen, but Im not ggoing to say anything yet... but I know I know'. IMO: If you want to state why you think Vince Lombardi would leave Green Bay for Warren, have at it..... In all my time here, those who speculate on that sort of thing are usually incredibly way off. I/WE will always protect the process for the hiring school and coaches and their families involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I’d like someone to state what they think he brings to Franklin Central. This program has nowhere to go but up. I would think the fan base is optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Franklin Central hired Warrens state champion basketball coach last year Chris Beyers, now they garner Warrens football coach. Greener pastures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaSalle Lions 1976 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 hours ago, MICFan34 said: So he ups and leaves while school is still going on? I find that unconscionable. Not living up to your teaching contract. I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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