DE Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, Muda69 said: According to gonzo apparently so. lol, your ignorance of libertarianism knows no bounds. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Muda69 said: According to gonzo apparently so. lol, your ignorance of libertarianism knows no bounds. It was quite a bigoted comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 15 hours ago, DE said: So a Christian is a whack job? In this case, yes. Besides Rokita, at least 1 other mentioned on this thread included. Dannster. Go Beacons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, gonzoron said: In this case, yes. Besides Rokita, at least 1 other mentioned on this thread included. Dannster. Go Beacons! Quite the bigoted comment. So tolerant of you. Have a great day. I agree with an earlier poster....it will be interesting to see if this name change will hurt in regards to alumni donations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, DE said: .it will be interesting to see if this name change will hurt in regards to alumni donations That depends on how many alumni are fans, supporters or members of the KKK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, gonzoron said: That depends on how many alumni are fans, supporters or members of the KKK. ? Please elaborate on the relationship between this new "Beacon" mascot/name and the KKK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Muda69 said: ? Please elaborate on the relationship between this new "Beacon" mascot/name and the KKK. The KKK and other hate groups use of the name and symbols was the reason for the name change. "That decision came after a decades-long debate that has recently intensified because groups such as the Ku Klux Klan began using the words and symbols of the Crusades, which were a series of bloody religious wars starting in the 11th century between Christians and Muslims. For years, Valpo's sports mascot had been a helmeted figure in faux armor. But the school's faculty and student senates each passed resolutions calling for a change and the university's alumni board of directors supported reassessing the team name's appropriateness." https://abc7chicago.com/valparaiso-beacons-crusader-valpo/10944585/ Edited August 12, 2021 by gonzoron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, gonzoron said: "That decision came after a decades-long debate that has recently intensified because groups such as the Ku Klux Klan began using the words and symbols of the Crusades, which were a series of bloody religious wars starting in the 11th century between Christians and Muslims. For years, Valpo's sports mascot had been a helmeted figure in faux armor. But the school's faculty and student senates each passed resolutions calling for a change and the university's alumni board of directors supported reassessing the team name's appropriateness." https://abc7chicago.com/valparaiso-beacons-crusader-valpo/10944585/ Thank you. https://www.ranker.com/list/the-crusader-mascot-school-list/reference Quote College of the Holy Cross Worcester, Massachusetts lesliegl added Groton Dunstable Regional High School Groton, Massachusetts Groton, Massachusetts North Greenville University Valparaiso University Valparaiso, Center Township Delsea Regional High School Franklinville, Franklin Township Northwest Nazarene University Nampa, Idaho SamiWright added Bishop Eustace Preparatory School Pennsauken Township, New Jersey Hank33 added Archbishop Moeller High School Cincinnati, Ohio cmpolito added Strake Jesuit College Preparatory Obviously a little of of date now, but I'm sure all these institutions are hot beds of KKK activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, DE said: Quite the bigoted comment. So tolerant of you. Have a great day. I agree with an earlier poster....it will be interesting to see if this name change will hurt in regards to alumni donations. I DO MY BEST😁 Edited August 12, 2021 by Gipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 8:27 AM, gonzoron said: That depends on how many alumni are fans, supporters or members of the KKK. LOL....I wonder if Holy Cross understands this affiliation you speak of..... https://www.telegram.com/news/20180203/holy-cross-board-votes-to-keep-crusaders-nickname-mascot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: LOL....I wonder if Holy Cross understands this affiliation you speak of..... https://www.telegram.com/news/20180203/holy-cross-board-votes-to-keep-crusaders-nickname-mascot Completely different reason for the debate in the case of Holy Cross College. It was based solely on religious connections, not use of the words and symbols by hate groups which is the case at Valparaiso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Completely different reason for the debate in the case of Holy Cross College. It was based solely on religious connections, not use of the words and symbols by hate groups which is the case at Valparaiso. Is it possible that HC might have heard of this KKK connection? At the end of the day, as I said earlier, it is their perogative to change their nickname. But a lighthouse logo in a landlocked town? I think its kind of funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Is it possible that HC might have heard of this KKK connection? At the end of the day, as I said earlier, it is their perogative to change their nickname. But a lighthouse logo in a landlocked town? I think its kind of funny. I think VU should have went with the Warriors, Social Justice Warriors. Typed in my best James Bond "impersonation". 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Is it possible that HC might have heard of this KKK connection? I don't know, the KKK isn't listed as a recognized hate group in Massachusetts, but it is in Indiana. 16 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: At the end of the day, as I said earlier, it is their perogative to change their nickname. But a lighthouse logo in a landlocked town? I agree, if that's the best replacement they could come up with, would I want my kid going there? I suppose that would depend on the scholarship offer, the nickname might be overlooked if that happens. So far it hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, gonzoron said: I don't know, the KKK isn't listed as a recognized hate group in Massachusetts, but it is in Indiana. I agree, if that's the best replacement they could come up with, would I want my kid going there? I suppose that would depend on the scholarship offer, the nickname might be overlooked if that happens. So far it hasn't. There are a lot of "hate groups" that aren't formally recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 49 minutes ago, DE said: There are a lot of "hate groups" that aren't formally recognized. I agree with that! One was previously mentioned in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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