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11 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

Fair enough. Maybe use the ASVAB instead?

 

8 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Possibly. It is used in Indiana as an alternative for kids who cannot pass ISTEP.

While it is US government based, if the ASVAB became THE test, how long would it be before that test might be compromised in some way or another?  There's certainly something to be said for College Board being a profit-based, although ACT is non-profit.  Nonetheless, the potential issue is less the motives of the administering company and more the value of the outcome in how it's used in college admissions.  If no one used the SAT, no one would be paying the kind of money that these folks paid.  Then again, if not the SAT, then probably whatever test carried that weight.  As we saw in this scheme, it's not even the scoring only as there were folks involved, even tangentially in the recruiting process, that most likely had a big impact on the admission process ... the coaches who were willing to take in people, skill unseen, for scholarship or admission positions.  In some of those cases, I'm sure all they needed was a bare minimum SAT score when a coach says, "I need this person in my sport." 

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Universities Play the Victim in Admissions Scandal, but They’re Far From Blameless: http://reason.com/archives/2019/03/14/universities-play-the-victim-in-admissio

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In the recent college admissions fraud scandal, the universities are the victims. Or at least, that's the official position of Georgetown University, which sent an email of talking points to its faculty after news broke that the school's former tennis coach Gordie Ernst was involved in the bribery scheme. At first glance, they're right.

But digging a bit deeper, the schools are far from blameless. This episode—in which celebrities and other elites are accused of bribing college officials and cheating on standardized tests to help their children get into elite colleges—reveals a number of unflattering things about academic business ethics.

It's no real surprise this sort of thing happens. Georgetown, like every other university or large corporation, suffers from a principal-agent problem. Employees are supposed to serve the institution's interest, but often professors, administrators, staff, and students can serve themselves at the expense of everyone else. In this case, the people in question, such as Ernst, are alleged to have committed criminal acts.

In some cases, though, such behavior is perfectly legal and hard to check. For instance, in our forthcoming book Cracks in the Ivory Tower, we find that the more financially needy a department is, the more frequently its classes appear as gen-ed requirements. There's little evidence these gen-ed classes teach the skills they're supposed to, so the best explanation—at most colleges—is they exist to inflate departmental budgets at the expense of students.

Elite universities are a kind of ideological paradox. On one hand, faculty and staff overwhelmingly identify with the Left and push social justice causes. But on the other, the universities are hierarchical and reinforce social hierarchies. They serve as gatekeepers of prestige, power, and status. Many have plenty of physical capacity to expand the number of students they admit, but they instead work to keep admissions rates and the number of undergraduates as low as possible, all to enhance the elite status of their brand.

Some of the celebrities in question, such as actress Felicity Huffman, frequently campaign for social justice. Yet, when push comes to shove, we see them (allegedly) using their advantages to secure further privileges for their children. This sort of thing happens throughout academia. Loud, enthusiastic trumpeting of moral slogans conveys the image that one is good and noble, and so people have a selfish interest in being political outspoken. But, half the time, when you dig in, you find that moralistic language actively disguises selfish behavior. It's often just a pretense to ask for more money and power for one's self.

Many commentators complain that donors often buy admission for their children in a perfectly legal way: You pay for a wing in our athletic building; we let your daughter into Cornell. If that's okay, they ask, what's so bad about outright bribes? One might try to defend universities by saying that donors at least pay to help other students. At least some endowment money and donations go to fund financial aid, defray tuition, or supply world-class instruction that couldn't be covered by tuition. A bribe to a tennis coach brings no further benefits to other students.

Still, the admissions scandal reveals several unflattering realities about the institutional incentives of higher ed. The dollar amount of the bribes and the tactics used, including falsely registering applicants as athletic recruits for sports in which they had no history, illustrate that it's far more difficult to be admitted to an elite school than to graduate from it. Parents wouldn't pay if their kids had little chance of graduating. It means many rejected applicants would have succeeded if admitted.

Elite universities present their admissions standards as a screening mechanism to ensure that students can cut it an intellectually challenging classroom environment. Yet evidence that students study and learn little, a pervasive culture of cheating, and a decline in scholarly rigor among faculty provide reasons to doubt this claim. Once in, just select an easy major from the politically activist departments, and earning your elite degree is a cakewalk. Indeed, one of the beneficiaries of the bribery scandal appears to have routinely skipped her classes at the University of Southern California in order to pursue a parallel career as a world-traveling Instagram celebrity.

Despite the relative ease of coursework, admissions remains an extremely scarce commodity at elite schools. The average Ivy League school accepts fewer than 10 percent of its applicants, and other elite institutions maintain similar levels of exclusivity.

So what's actually happening here? Quite simply, these institutions (and likely all universities) are selling a credential rather than the loftier pursuits of "knowledge" and "intellectual enrichment" that litter their marketing materials. When grades are meaningless, cheating is pervasive, and the rigor of obtaining an elite degree succumbs to political activism and other forms of fashionable nonsense, the admissions office becomes the primary rationing mechanism for this scarce and coveted credential. Admissions officers have a long history of allocating spaces at elite institutions for reasons other than merit. Should we be the least bit surprised that they are also susceptible to bribes, corruption, and celebrity influence?

The value of a credential from an elite institution derives not from its curriculum, or the "lifetime of knowledge" it instills, but from the prestige associated with its name. Top universities pride themselves on having a rock star faculty of Nobel laureates and Pulitzer prize winners, on securing prestigious research grants and other competitive honorifics, and on attracting "the best" students. For the same reason, universities are often unforgiving when a prominent faculty member commits plagiarism or fabricates data. If it also turns out that politically and economically connected parents can bribe their way past the rationing mechanism of the admissions process, the associated credential will lose some of its prestige and decline in value.

Therefore, we should expect the universities implicated in the most recent bribery scandal to play the victim, even when their own discretionary admissions policies and corrupt officials helped to make it possible.

 

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1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

I get that you have some animosity against Common Core, but that doesn’t mean we need to discard the concept of the admissions exam.

Maybe the college board needs to go; keep in mind the reach of the CB includes AP courses.

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2 hours ago, Irishman said:

Maybe the college board needs to go; keep in mind the reach of the CB includes AP courses.

Not necessarily disputing the results. I am in favor of competency testing, however, as many professions require competency tests for licensure.

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9 hours ago, gonzoron said:

 I’m just here for MMM 

Memes, Music, and Mudslinging.

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The Hallmark Channel, typically spared from scandals, has cut ties with Lori Loughlin: https://news.avclub.com/the-hallmark-channel-typically-spared-from-scandals-h-1833306697#_ga=2.82810590.913238935.1552318544-2565330411.1523556988

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The Hallmark Channel is essentially the straitlaced, goody two-shoes cousin of the significantly saucier (and now overwhelmingly murder-focused) Lifetime channel, which has historically helped the network from ever having to weigh in on controversies. That was before our collective innocence was shattered by the FBI’s “Varsity Blues” operation, though, which revealed—in the most shocking discovery of all time—that rich people have been using their money to get things they don’t necessarily deserve. Those entitled motherfuckers! (Sorry, we’re still just in shock that rich people would do something so unseemly.)

Anyway, one of the famous people named in the investigation was Lori Loughlin, who allegedly paid the University Of Southern California a series of bribes totaling $500,000 to guarantee admission to her two daughters. Loughlin is most famous for her role on Full House, but she also happens to have starred on Hallmark’s When Calls The Heart, repeatedly starred in the network’s Garage Sale Mysteries, and appeared in a number of Christmas movies. Given her apparently deep connection to the network, The Hallmark Channel has now been forced to distance itself from Loughlin, announcing in a statement (via Variety) that has “stopped development of all productions that air on the Crown Media Family Network channels involving Lori Loughlin.” The statement notes that this even includes Garage Sale Mysteries, which is an “independent third party production.”

It’s worth noting that Loughlin was actually in Vancouver filming the latest Garage Sale Mysteries movie when the “Varsity Blues” charges started coming in, which means the decision to suspend production is impacting all of the people who would otherwise be up there working on it. Way to go, rich person.

One wonders if Ms. Loughlin will ever have meaningful work in the acting business again.

 

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1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

The Hallmark Channel, typically spared from scandals, has cut ties with Lori Loughlin: https://news.avclub.com/the-hallmark-channel-typically-spared-from-scandals-h-1833306697#_ga=2.82810590.913238935.1552318544-2565330411.1523556988

One wonders if Ms. Loughlin will ever have meaningful work in the acting business again.

 

She doesn't really need it.  She and her husband live in a house that they bought for $17 million and renovated so that it's now worth $35 million.  The two combined are worth an estimated $100 million.  Target will be hard-pressed to remove the entire Mossimo line in any due time.  Residuals may keep pouring in from previous projects.  And the most important part is that they don't have anymore kids that they'll be dumping $500,000 on trying to scam their way into college.

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1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Image result for aunt becky guns

Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Joins Women's March to protest inequality, Bribes prestigious schools for inequality. The Left in a nutshell.'

Two words....Trump University

lol

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1 hour ago, swordfish said:

 

Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Joins Women's March to protest inequality, Bribes prestigious schools for inequality. The Left in a nutshell.'

 

You mean like these folks?

Mossimo Giannulli, fashion designer, and Lori Loughlin, actress

$12,800 in total contributions to federal candidates and committees

$2,700 to the Marco Rubio senate campaign (via Mossimo Giannulli)

$5,000 to Romney Victory in 2012 (via Mossimo Giannulli)

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32 minutes ago, foxbat said:

She doesn't really need it.  

But's she's an artist.  They have to work, don't they?

 

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3 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

But's she's an artist.  They have to work, don't they?

 

There's always Dancin' With The Stars, Desperate Housewives - Back To School, Real Housewives of College Scandal, Big House - a Full House spinoff, When Calls The Feds, and Christmas in San Quentin.

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Am I missing something here or is it not being reported?  Why are the people who accepted the "donations" not being prosecuted?

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42 minutes ago, raiderx2 said:

Am I missing something here or is it not being reported?  Why are the people who accepted the "donations" not being prosecuted?

You mean like the guy whose YACHT that Lori Loughlin's daughter was on when mom got arrested?  The poor USC guy?  That guy?

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as an IU fan, I could not resist. lol

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16 minutes ago, swordfish said:

You mean like the guy whose YACHT that Lori Loughlin's daughter was on when mom got arrested?  The poor USC guy?  That guy?

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Do you get all your news from Facebook memes? Why exactly are you attempting to politicize this, when it is clearly not political. 

Political contributions from some of those indicted:

The contributions were made to both Democratic and Republican candidates and committees.

The contributions included:

  • At least $135,525 to the Democratic National Committee

  • At least $131,800 to committees benefiting or controlled by then-presidential candidate and current U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)

  • At least $73,600 to the Republican National Committee

  • At least  $30,000 to committees benefiting Gavin Newsom

  • At least $25,000 to the Kamala Harris Senate Committee and the committee for her California attorney general candidacy

  • At least  $16,900 to committees benefiting or controlled by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)

  • $8,350 to the National Republican Campaign Committee

  • $8,350 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee 

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1 minute ago, gonzoron said:

Do you get all your news from Facebook memes? Why exactly are you attempting to politicize this, when it is clearly not political. 

Political contributions from some of those indicted:

The contributions were made to both Democratic and Republican candidates and committees.

The contributions included:

  • At least $135,525 to the Democratic National Committee

  • At least $131,800 to committees benefiting or controlled by then-presidential candidate and current U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)

  • At least $73,600 to the Republican National Committee

  • At least  $30,000 to committees benefiting Gavin Newsom

  • At least $25,000 to the Kamala Harris Senate Committee and the committee for her California attorney general candidacy

  • At least  $16,900 to committees benefiting or controlled by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)

  • $8,350 to the National Republican Campaign Committee

  • $8,350 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee 

Gonzo - THIS:

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is a JOKE......

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5 hours ago, Muda69 said:

The Hallmark Channel, typically spared from scandals, has cut ties with Lori Loughlin: https://news.avclub.com/the-hallmark-channel-typically-spared-from-scandals-h-1833306697#_ga=2.82810590.913238935.1552318544-2565330411.1523556988

One wonders if Ms. Loughlin will ever have meaningful work in the acting business again.

 

If one loses the Hallmark Channel as an actor, not sure how many options left.....

 

Hey BarryO!  Why the disdain vote for Muda?  You don't think that is a legitimate question for her transgression?

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2 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Hey BarryO!  Why the disdain vote for Muda?  You don't think that is a legitimate question for her transgression?

Don't waste your time asking Night Hawk that question, TD.  He systematically down votes 90% of my posts on practically a daily basis, regardless of their content.   

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

But's she's an artist.  They have to work, don't they?

 

Netflix will hire them......

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

Don't waste your time asking Night Hawk that question, TD.  He systematically down votes 90% of my posts on practically a daily basis, regardless of their content.   

Now its all making sense.........

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Just now, TrojanDad said:

Netflix will hire them......

Probably not, if this is true:  https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/lori-laughlin-fired-fuller-house/

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After being charged in connection with the largest college admission scam in American history, actress Lori Loughlin finds herself out of work.

Most notably, Loughlin has been fired from Fuller House, Netflix’s revival of the classic American sitcom Full House. In both series, Loughlin portrayed Rebecca Donaldson, the wife of John Stamos’ character, Jesse Katsopolis. According to TMZ, Loughlin will not appear in the upcoming fifth season of Fuller House.

,,,

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

He systematically down votes 90% of my posts on practically a daily basis, regardless of their content. 

For entertainment purposes only. Shouldn't be an issue for you when you can add 1,000 at a time.

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