Impartial_Observer Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 hours ago, gonzoron said: And if you watched the video in the article, you may have noticed that Melania has her LEFT hand over her heart. A clear breach of etiquette. It's not OK to be ignorant. I noticed this LH thing during the anthem, I seem to recall several folks doing this, does this have some meaning? Given IO’s long history of sporting events, he’s often wonder how many National Anthems he’s stood for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Pelosi behaves like a child on national television. Perhaps she will rip apart the House Impeachment articles after Trump is acquited by a bipartisan vote today. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderx2 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I feel real sorry for the moderate dems. They are left holding the bag. The Speaker has snapped, completely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 As a politician, I've always held Pelosi in pretty high esteem. She's savvy and a tough old broad, I respect that. But I think she's been influenced by the uber left wing of the party going down this impeachment path. I think she held it off as long as she could, and basically sold her soul to keep the speaker gig. She's smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall, that she knew full well all along, and this was just her frustration knowing the wheels are falling off. I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the speaker's office prior to kicking off this impeachment. On the bright side of things, with the SOTU last night and the impeachment vote today, it should cut into the air time the debacle in Iowa would otherwise garner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARRYOSAMA Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 #NoHandShake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BARRYOSAMA said: #NoHandShake You think the VP is upset he didn't get a handshake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARRYOSAMA Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, swordfish said: You think the VP is upset he didn't get a handshake? He never offered his hand. He shows his obedience in other ways I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderx2 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Barry you are really going to despise the next 4.75 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, BARRYOSAMA said: He never offered his hand. He shows his obedience in other ways I am sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, swordfish said: Isn't white a fashion faux pas after Labor Day until Easter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARRYOSAMA Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, swordfish said: He never offered his hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, swordfish said: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Trump Bashes Socialism While Endorsing a Status Quo Socialism of His Own: https://reason.com/2020/02/05/trump-bashes-socialism-while-endorsing-a-status-quo-socialism-of-his-own/ Quote Most people probably wouldn't think of President Donald Trump as a socialist. At last night's State of the Union address, he repeatedly inveighed against the ideology, in both foreign and domestic settings. He touted the diplomatic coalition aligned "against the socialist dictator of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro," who he cast as an "illegitimate ruler" and "a tyrant who brutalizes his people." He warned of an impending "socialist takeover of our health care system," criticized Democrats who supported a government-run plan, and promised that he "will never let socialism destroy American health care." "Socialism destroys nations," he said. "But always remember: Freedom unifies the soul." There can be no doubt of Maduro's tyranny, and when the leading proponent of Medicare for All is a self-declared democratic socialist, it is more than fair to cast single-payer health care, and its backers in Congress, in this light as well. With Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) currently a front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, Trump was previewing a likely attack strategy for this year's presidential contest, and attempting to exploit a growing rift in Democratic Party politics over its leftward drift. There are sound political reasons for Trump to adopt this strategy. Polls show that Republican voters are widely opposed to socialism, and although Democrats are substantially more favorable, they are, relatively speaking, more divided. The presidential campaigns of both Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) showed how practical questions about how to pay for and implement Medicare for All can drag down presidential campaigns, even in a nominally receptive Democratic primary race. (Sanders, for his part, has largely dismissed such questions as impossible to answer.) Trump is on solid political ground running against America's nascent socialist movement and its primary project, the remaking of the nation's health care system. Yet Trump's fervent anti-socialism makes for an odd fit with much of the rest of his speech, which boasted of various spending and infrastructure projects, along with a new branch of the military, Space Force. The disjointedness was particularly notable in his dual commitment to "always protect your Medicare" and "always protect your Social Security," a line punctuated by a final "always," as if to say that old-age entitlements are forever sacred. Although Trump recently suggested, in a brief and somewhat vague exchange, that the programs might eventually be up for some sort of cost-saving reform, he has historically positioned himself as a defender of those programs. As with his attacks on socialism, there is a clear political logic to this stance: The programs are popular, and they benefit seniors, who make up a disproportionate share of Trump's voter base. Trump's speech was a warning to these voters that Democrats would threaten their benefits by extending them to outsiders, in particular to illegal immigrants. Democratic proposals, he said, "would raid the Medicare benefits of our seniors and that our seniors depend on, while acting as a powerful lure for illegal immigration." (Nevermind that California, which he cited as an example, spends only a tiny fraction of its gargantuan health care budget on undocumented immigrants.) Yet what are Medicare and Social Security except socialist programs limited by age requirements? They are not mandatory savings systems, as many believe, but direct transfer programs in which young workers fund the benefits of older retirees; on average, today's seniors will receive benefits that far exceed what they paid in. Indeed, the mismatch between expected revenues and the expected cost of paying for those benefits is why both programs have substantial long-term shortfalls, and why they are, in tandem, the biggest drivers of long-term federal debt. Trump isn't a democratic socialist in the Sanders mold. But by casting Medicare and Social Security as sacrosanct, as untouchable foundations of the American project, Trump is endorsing a kind of debt-funded socialism for seniors, in which the way to access the benefits of massive government welfare programs is to turn 65. It's no wonder, really, that Bernie Sanders' base of support is younger voters; Sanders is promising, in many ways, to expand the sort of benefits that Trump wants to protect for seniors to the young and middle-aged. There are obvious policy problems with Trump's brand of big-government anti-socialism, chief among them that it ignores the costs of running an entitlement system that was designed under wildly different demographic assumptions. But the rise of Sanders specifically and youth socialism generally is a reminder that there are serious political ramifications as well. The seniors-only entitlement state that Trump has vowed to preserve has created an expensively protected beneficiary class. Eventually, those who are not part of that class will want benefits of their own, at even greater expense. So it's true that Sanders' particular brand of socialism is especially unaffordable and that it would exacerbate the fiscal problems associated with today's entitlement system. But Trump's preferred alternative is a politically convenient status quo that is destructive and unsustainable on its own terms. Agreed. The uni-party is spending our way to financial oblivion, and our children and grandchildren will bear the brunt of the pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, TrojanDad said: to compare a sample of Congresswomen who succumb to peer pressure, to amazing women that on their own free wear the uniform of the most prestigious military academy in the in the US for the future defense of our country is laughable....if it wasn't so sad..... I think you missed the point TD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said: I think you missed the point TD. Evidently he thinks 'yes men' should only be in the military. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderx2 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Didn't Mr. Obama try to add 7 states to our union? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, raiderx2 said: Didn't Mr. Obama try to add 7 states to our union? Actually it was 8 states. Obama claimed he had been in 57 states and had one more to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, raiderx2 said: Didn't Mr. Obama try to add 7 states to our union? Yes, and he was ridiculed for it on this Forum. How does this pertain to Donald Trump? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Howe said: Just curious why you continue to post this so often when it has been proven it is not a quote from him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARRYOSAMA Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Irishman said: Just curious why you continue to post this so often when it has been proven it is not a quote from him? Accuracy is not an issue with either Howe or Trump. Alternative Facts are the new normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Irishman said: Just curious why you continue to post this so often when it has been proven it is not a quote from him? Who has proved this quote to be false? Snopes? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Irishman said: Just curious why you continue to post this so often when it has been proven it is not a quote from him? Because he gets his facts from memes and YouTube videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howe Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The left actually believes their fake news propaganda and use Politifact and Snopes as their "fact checkers". These are the same people who claimed it was a "fact" that all 17 U.S. Intelligence Agencies agreed the Russians hacked the DNC servers. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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