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1 hour ago, Howe said:

No one has "proved" the statement in the General Patton meme is false.

lol....ummmmmmmm yeah......ok

 

Again.....not really the point. You did not fact check it yourself, and without doing so, you continue to post it. 

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48 minutes ago, Irishman said:

lol....ummmmmmmm yeah......ok

 

Again.....not really the point. You did not fact check it yourself, and without doing so, you continue to post it. 

Normal people do not fact check memes.

General Patton died 85 years ago. No one is capable of "fact checking" the statement in the meme, regardless of what Snopes or anyone else claims.

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14 minutes ago, Howe said:

Normal people do not fact check memes.

General Patton died 85 years ago. No one is capable of "fact checking" the statement in the meme, regardless of what Snopes or anyone else claims.

So then, why are you afraid of typing your own opinion instead of hiding behind a meme that isn't factual. Not smart enough to articulate your own thoughts?

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7 hours ago, Howe said:

Normal people do not fact check memes.

General Patton died 85 years ago. No one is capable of "fact checking" the statement in the meme, regardless of what Snopes or anyone else claims.

Its a fake quote.

Normal people don't make up quotes.

Bootlicking apologists do....

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13 hours ago, gonzoron said:

So then, why are you afraid of typing your own opinion instead of hiding behind a meme that isn't factual. Not smart enough to articulate your own thoughts?

Please provide proof the meme is not factual. I am smart enough to get four Democrats triggered while claiming a meme has been proven false and is not factual.🤣 

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6 hours ago, BARRYOSAMA said:

Its a fake quote.

Normal people don't make up quotes.

Bootlicking apologists do....

Perhaps Mueller can prove the meme is a fake quote.

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1 hour ago, Howe said:

I am smart enough to get four Democrats triggered

Is that the new Trump Groupie catchphrase? Democrats didn't post the meme. Something triggered the OP evidently. This thread could use more triggers. 

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3 hours ago, Howe said:

Please provide proof the meme is not factual. I am smart enough to get four Democrats triggered while claiming a meme has been proven false and is not factual.🤣 

So much fake news in just one post. 
1. There have been links provided. You have yet to address a single specific claim in any of them, including the one that Rush and Sean told you had a liberal bias. 
2. You give yourself FAR too much credit. 
3. You love painting people with such broad strokes without knowing all the facts. There are not four Democrats challenging you as you claim. You might be half right at best. But I guess those who are not Trump supporters are all now Democrats? 

4. Who is triggered? Because someone tries to have a conversation about something in particular, challenging the validity of it, they are somehow triggered?  

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29 minutes ago, Irishman said:

So much fake news in just one post. 
1. There have been links provided. You have yet to address a single specific claim in any of them, including the one that Rush and Sean told you had a liberal bias. 
2. You give yourself FAR too much credit. 
3. You love painting people with such broad strokes without knowing all the facts. There are not four Democrats challenging you as you claim. You might be half right at best. But I guess those who are not Trump supporters are all now Democrats? 

4. Who is triggered? Because someone tries to have a conversation about something in particular, challenging the validity of it, they are somehow triggered?  

There have been no links provided that prove the statement in the meme is false.

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Multiple points made, and that is all you keep coming up with? Go ahead and keep telling yourself whatever you need to. lol

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8 hours ago, Howe said:

Perhaps Mueller can prove the meme is a fake quote.

It is a fake quote.  But if you don't allow any witnesses you can claim whatever you want.

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On 2/6/2020 at 11:22 AM, Howe said:

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A huge week of success for President Trump and a horrendous week of failures for Democrats. Trump beats Congressional Democrats again.

 

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9 hours ago, Howe said:

“If Nancy Pelosi fears images of her ripping up the speech, perhaps she shouldn’t have ripped up the speech,” Tim Murtaugh, a Trump campaign spokesman, said Saturday.

Similar sentiment may well apply with the President, his taxes, business dealings, and history with women.

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On 2/9/2020 at 1:15 PM, Howe said:

 

I guess take it how you would like to - another perspective on the edited Pelosi video from a friend of mine in the media.

Nancy Pelosi demands it be taken down.  BUT - Everything in it is the truth, just rearranged. She defended Adam Schiff for making up his own version of Trump's telephone transcript. But think of this - Nancy Pelosi has been declared a brilliant tactician when it comes to political prowess. Right? Then ask yourself this - why would she ever rip up a SOTU speech on national television with all those cameras on her and think that it would not be used against her for doing something so stupid? This one act could be a defining moment in the 2020 elections and she gave it no thought, just hate and revenge? You can't put this back in the bottle and a week later it is still all over the news and nobody can even tell you who delivered the Democrats response to the SOTU. So just how brilliant is Nancy Pelosi?

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17 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Wait.........What?????????????

Trump Cuts Scheduled Federal Pay Raise, Citing “Serious Economic Conditions” in the Country

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-cuts-scheduled-federal-pay-raise-serious-economic-conditions.html?fbclid=IwAR0h7XwN3k4SayFzGCPxC1fsnVRmHAW6wCTfdmrGz74SY2JKp0V195aUG2c

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/02/13/trump-budget-presidents-1-raise-government-workers-fair/4742634002/

President Trump this week proposed a modest 1% pay increase and less generous retirement benefits for federal workers.

The proposal, included in Trump’s fiscal 2021 budget blueprint, is reigniting a longstanding debate over whether federal employees earn too much, or too little, compared to their private-sector counterparts. 

The president’s budget cites a 2017 Congressional Budget Office study that found federal workers’ total compensation on average is 17% higher than private-sector workers in similar jobs, chiefly because of their benefits.

“CBO found that, in comparison to the private sector, the federal government continues to offer a very generous package of retirement benefits,” the budget plan says.

Federal employee advocates disagreed.

“For an administration that has added $3 trillion to the federal debt, gouging federal employee pay and benefits in the name of deficit reduction is ridiculous,” Tony Reardon, president of the National Treasury Employees Union, said in a statement.

“For the fourth year in a row, President Trump’s budget proposal would starve federal agencies to the point of paralysis, pick the pockets of middle-class federal workers and their families, weaken our nation’s nonpartisan merit-based civil service, and deprive Americans of the basic services and protections that expect from their government.”

The Federal Salary Council – which includes experts in labor relations and pay policy, as well as labor union representatives – found last year that federal employees earn an average 27% less than their private-sector counterparts. That analysis, however, did not take benefits into account.

Here are the issues:

Is Trump’s proposal likely to be the final word on federal workers’ raises?

Probably not. Under legislation introduced by Democrats in both the House and Senate, federal employees would receive an average 3.5% raise in fiscal 2021. For the prior year, Trump recommended a pay freeze but eventually agreed to an average 3.1% pay increase after negotiating with Congress. That included a 2.6% across-the-board bump and a varying premium based on locality.

How does Trump’s proposed 1% increase compare with private-sector raises?

Hourly wage increases for private workers across the U.S. averaged 3.1% in January, according to the Labor Department. Pay gains averaged 3.1% in manufacturing, 2.9% in construction, 4.1% in retail, 3.7% in financial activities, 3.4% in leisure and hospitality and 1.5% in education and health services.

What’s the main argument in support of Trump’s slight pay increase and retirement benefit changes?

Chris Edwards, an economist at the libertarian Cato Institute, says a 1% raise is reasonable considering many federal workers get wage bumps as they periodically rise through 10 steps, as well as across-the-board raises. He also says the modest increase makes sense in light of the disparity in benefits between federal and private-sector workers.

Edwards also back’s Trump’s proposal to curtail federal retirement benefits and require workers to contribute more toward those benefits. He notes that federal workers receive both a defined contribution plan, like a 401(k), and a defined benefit plan, such as a pension.

“The administration’s proposals to trim the federal defined benefit plan are a modest step given that such plans have mainly disappeared in the private sector,” Edwards says.

What do opponents of Trump’s plan say?

Daniel Zhao, a senior economist at job posting site Glassdoor, notes that employers are struggling to attract workers amid historically low unemployment. “The federal government isn’t immune from today’s highly competitive labor market and must battle for the same qualified workers as their often higher-paying private sector counterparts,” Zhao says.

Sudarshan Sampath, director of research at PayScale, a compensation software and data firm, says federal salaries are significantly lower than private wages for high-skilled jobs in fields such as cybersecurity and intelligence, potentially putting the country at a disadvantage.

“You can’t just expect their desire to work for the country” to prompt skilled workers to accept lower pay, Sampath says.

The CBO has found that from 2011 to 2015, federal workers with a high school diploma or less earned 34% more on average than similar private-sector workers. But federal workers with professional degrees or doctorates earned 24% less than comparable employees at American businesses.

A cut?  FYI - it's a PROPOSAL he didn't "cut" squat.......most likely there will be a negotiated agreement between Congress and the President......BTW - How many of us already know what we are guaranteed to earn next year?  Also, don't fail to note that there was a 3.1% increase this year.......

 

 

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