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Trump Derangement Syndrome is a thing.....It makes the most tolerant among us intolerant.......


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23 hours ago, Wabash82 said:

Huh? The whole point of your original comment, the precise REASON you posted this here, was to make a comment on the supposed political aspects of the incident -- supposedly tolerant lib SJW warrior assaults some guy because of the guy's differing political views, and (supposedly) only gets a slap on the wrist for it. 

If you now claim that you "know nothing" about  Winder's politics, then how do you know he isn't a white supremist, also, and the reason he hit the other guy had nothing to do with that guy's political views?

It was?  I don't recall reading in the linked article that Mr. Winder was a "lib SJW warrior".  Where did you get that information?   

And if Mr. Winder is a white supremacist,  how does that any difference to the facts of the case?

 

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13 hours ago, gonzoron said:

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You would love that wouldn't you?  Too bad there is this little item you would have to get around:

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No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

 

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1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

You would love that wouldn't you? 

Not really. It's just a picture of a slogan on a Chinese hat.

 

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Too bad there is this little item you would have to get around

I won't need to get around it, I'm not running for President more than once.

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1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

It was?  I don't recall reading in the linked article that Mr. Winder was a "lib SJW warrior".  Where did you get that information?   

And if Mr. Winder is a white supremacist,  how does that any difference to the facts of the case?

 

Those words came from your post, not the articles. 

So are you now going to try to claim that you posted this article in a thread dealing with liberals alleged overreaction to President Trump simply as a commentary on our judicial system, and not because of the supposed political angle to the story? Muda, come on dude. You will strain something making a stretch like that....

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8 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Not really. It's just a picture of a slogan on a Chinese hat.

 

I won't need to get around it, I'm not running for President more than once.

You are correct Gonzo.  It is just a slogan on a hat, as is President Trump’s Make America Great Again.

Hope all is going great for you and yours. Be well. 

11 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Wow, Trump Groupies evidently get triggered by red hats also. Imagine that. Hypocrites.

Not this one. 😀🖐

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9 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Seems inconsistent with the image you attempt to display.......

I don't attempt to display an image. What you see is what you get with me. 

 

11 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

BTW, surprised that an such an enlightened progressive like yourself is still using a term that isn't considered politically correct. 

What term is that? Hypocrite? I call 'em like I see 'em.

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1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

Then why did you and 2 others downvote a picture of a hat? Triggered.

BC I would not want Obama as President again. 

Anyways.  Hope all is well. 

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23 hours ago, Wabash82 said:

So are you now going to try to claim that you posted this article in a thread dealing with liberals alleged overreaction to President Trump simply as a commentary on our judicial system, and not because of the supposed political angle to the story? 

Commentaries on both.

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On 4/5/2019 at 9:56 PM, gonzoron said:

I don't remember any sword attacks instigated by someone wearing a "Yes we can" or "Forward" hat. Those were the slogan's of Obama's 2 campaigns.

Evidence shows the right wing normally isn't offended with the other side's right to free speech.....

On 4/7/2019 at 7:22 AM, gonzoron said:

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Thanks for making the point.....

15 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Wow, Trump Groupies evidently get triggered by red hats also. Imagine that. Hypocrites.

 

12 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Then why did you and 2 others downvote a picture of a hat? Triggered.

Big difference between an anonymous downvote and calling someone (an elderly Jewish guy) out in public at a restaurant.

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This intolerance is taking over college campuses :  Student files bias complaint against dorm roommate for watching Ben Shapiro video: https://www.thecollegefix.com/student-files-bias-complaint-against-dorm-roommate-for-watching-ben-shapiro-video/

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One evening last September, a Michigan State University student awoke from his nap to see his roommate sitting at his computer. There was a video playing, and the student realized his roommate was watching a video of conservative commentator Ben Shapiro.

The newly awoken student then took to his own computer to file a complaint with the administration’s bias reporting system against his roommate for watching the Shapiro video.

“Ben Shapiro is known for his inflammatory speech that criticizes and attacks the African American community,” the student wrote in his report against his roommate. “I thought hate had no place on MSU’s campus yet MSU has roomed me with someone who supports hate speach [sic].”

Shapiro is a popular conservative pundit whose appearances on college campuses are frequently accompanied with protests by liberal students.

In response to the complaint, the university tasked an investigator to look into the matter, who was told to work for a “room change if the claimant would like one.”

This report was just one of 35 filed with Michigan State’s “Public Incident” website in the fall semester of 2018 obtained by The College Fix through a public records act request. The documents provided by Michigan State have all personal identifying information redacted.

Through the bias reporting system, the administration allows anonymous students and faculty to report incidents, no matter how private, to the university for investigation and adjudication.

The 114 pages of documents provided to The College Fix shows a campus where minor sleights, overheard conversations and editorial cartoons become fodder for students and faculty to report one another.

As was the case with the Shapiro video, it appears students may not even be able to watch a political video in the privacy of their own dorm room without being written up.

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In September, a student overheard a conversation in which another student allegedly misgendered Caitlyn Jenner.

“You guys know that Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner who was married to a Kris Kardashian?” the student allegedly said. “You know that he is dating another woman…what is wrong with him?” the complaining student overheard, saying there were two more witnesses to the infraction. The case was closed four days later, as the person who made the complaint was anonymous – yet the suspect’s name remains on file with the university.

In an e-mail to The Fix, Michigan State spokesperson Heather Young noted that the university as a whole has no mandatory bias reporting requirement, although the residence halls do require their employees to mandatorily report bias incidents.

Young forwarded a document that defines “bias” as “verbal or nonverbal conduct that is threatening, harassing, intimidating, discriminatory, or hostile and is based on a category protected under the MSU Anti-Discrimination Policy.”

“The physical and emotional health of the victim(s) must be carefully considered after any bias incident,” reads the document, titled “Protocol for Addressing Bias Incidents, Acts of Prohibited Discrimination/Harassment, and Hate Crimes.”

“It is essential that the victim receive support immediately after the incident and be made aware of the resources available to assist with any emotional, mental, and/or physical impact,” the protocol states. “MSU strongly encourages campus community members to take an active role in reporting bias incidents and hate crimes in order to ensure an inclusive and welcoming campus for all.”

A number of the cases filed with the bias response system appear to be simple workplace disagreements that became more heated as they went on. After a long argument, one university employee accused his boss of discriminating against him on the basis of race. A complaint was made against another faculty member when she expressed doubt another employee could effectively do her job because of her large size. One employee accused another staff member of breaking a chair due to his “fat ass.” And in another example, a university employee was reported for displaying a “Resist Trump” sticker on campus.

At least one report appears to have been debunked on the spot. In October, a white female complained to the front desk at a campus library that three male black students in the library had called her a “gender-based slur.” When staff investigated, they found the three male students studying peacefully, each of them denying they had said anything to the female student. She declined to give her name and the university found no evidence they had insulted her.

There was also an example of religion-based bias complaints in the mix. In October, a group of three students belonging to a Christian religious group on campus went door-to-door in the dorms asking residents to take a survey. The students were told to leave, as they were making some students “uncomfortable.” The woman conducting the survey was escorted out, which she described as “humiliating.”

“Being told my religion makes those around me uncomfortable and only being confronted about an issue with the survey after it was revealed as a faith based religious survey leads me to fully believe I was discriminated on based on my faith and religion,” the female student wrote. According to the university’s records, the student ceased cooperating with the university and the investigation into the incident was closed with no action.

Other reports are only based on the briefest of interactions:

· Someone said the word “nigga” on an Instagram post; the person was found not to be connected with MSU.

· A discarded game of “hangman” was left on a whiteboard in a residence hall; the word “SOUTH” was the last one played.

· An MSU student posted a Snapchat video in which he says “I hate white people.”

· An MSU student found an Instagram photo where some young women were debating whether one of them looks “Indian” in the comments section. The women were not connected to MSU.

· A student complains twice in three days that someone posted a cartoon making fun of liberals in a residence hall and it offended her.

· A student used a residence hall list to e-mail her political beliefs to an entire dorm.

· One staff member overheard another staff member asking someone, “have you ever been to Africa?” and both staffers laughed. When confronted, the two staffers said they were simply quoting the 1997 teen movie “Good Burger.” The offended staffer said there was no such line in the movie “Good Burger,” and the discussion ended with one of the parties threatening to “kick those mother fuckin asses.”

Young was unable to give an estimate of costs to run the bias reporting program, although she noted the campus Office of Institutional Equity has one employee dedicated to following up on reports of bias.

Residence halls “and other units on campus likely have employees who also follow up on bias reports as well,” Young said.

Mostly a colossal waste of time and taxpayer's money.

 

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1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Evidence shows the right wing normally isn't offended with the other side's right to free speech.....

Show us some

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Big difference between an anonymous downvote and calling someone (an elderly Jewish guy) out in public at a restaurant.

A matter of personal opinion. Calling someone out in public in a restaurant isn't something most Liberals would do either, but it isn't a violation of anyone's freedom of speech. 

I suppose it could be stretched to be called assault, but I'm not sure a verbal calling out should be National news. 

When it comes to her knocking the hat off his head, I would think that should be considered battery and she should be arrested for it if that's what happened. Again, I'm not convinced it should be National News. 

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Thanks for making the point....

I have no idea what you mean by this, but you're welcome.

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45 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Show us some

A matter of personal opinion. Calling someone out in public in a restaurant isn't something most Liberals would do either, but it isn't a violation of anyone's freedom of speech. 

I suppose it could be stretched to be called assault, but I'm not sure a verbal calling out should be National news. 

When it comes to her knocking the hat off his head, I would think that should be considered battery and she should be arrested for it if that's what happened. Again, I'm not convinced it should be National News. 

I have no idea what you mean by this, but you're welcome.

***Politely raises hand again.

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2 hours ago, swordfish said:

Evidence shows the right wing normally isn't offended with the other side's right to free speech.....

 

I'm not so sure about this ... take a look at Obama having a heckler/protester in an audience and Trump having one.  Very different responses.

 

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29 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

I provided you several documented sources of lefties attacking people with MAGA hats.  Just saw another video yesterday of a grown man attacking a 16 year old in a restaurant for wearing a MAGA hat.   Not once I have I seen you call out people for doing this.  

Doesn't have anything to do with the right wing not being offended. Do you even read my comments, or do you just attack without even knowing what you're attacking?

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6 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

 

Does Trump's response to be heckled represent everyone on the right?  Stereotype much?

Do you deny several cases of lefties attacking people wearing MAGA hats?  How does that make you feel?

Seems to be an apologist's approach.  If you can't prove everyone, then it doesn't exist?  Not sure how you are getting stereotyping anymore than @swordfish's initial post about evidence showing right wing being more tolerant of free speech.  I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean everyone, so I took it as such, that he didn't mean everyone and I argued the general point taking definitive figureheads from each party and pointing out very specific responses to exactly the same type of issue.  But if you want to go beyond just a couple of folks, then go to the video and listen to the many AUDIENCE members who are cheering and chanting about beating folks or taking them out to the parking lot or cheering paying for their court costs if they assault someone else.  That's much more beyond the idea of just one person.

As for folks calling out folks or going after them in public, I don't condone it on either side and have never condoned it on either side.  I have offered up contrary items when someone posts something from the "higher ground" side of the argument in contrast, but that isn't condoning anything ... merely pointing out that the ground isn't all that high.  Similarly, my point in countering @swordfish's post had nothing to do with claiming that any side didn't do X or do X at all or to say that it was OK to do X because the other side also does X, but to offer up that the "higher ground argument," especially with regard to leadership, isn't really there.  As for how does it make me feel, I feel more for the man who was beaten by a mob at Charlottesville or for the young woman who was run over.  Doesn't mean that I don't feel for the guy in the MAGA hat who had his meal interrupted, etc., but I care more for the other victims.

As for not caring, I will freely say that I don't really care about the guy who was asked to leave a memorial service at a Canadian university for New Zealand massacre victims who showed up in his MAGA hat to tell folks there that the vigil was meaningless.  I care much more for the victims than for the guy trying to get a rise out of people with his red hat.    

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37 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

 I provided you several documented sources of lefties attacking people with MAGA hats.  Just saw another video yesterday of a grown man attacking a 16 year old in a restaurant for wearing a MAGA hat.   Not once I have I seen you call out people for doing this.  

Does Trump's response to be heckled represent everyone on the right?  Stereotype much?

Do you deny several cases of lefties attacking people wearing MAGA hats?  How does that make you feel?

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7 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

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Reminds me of Pacino's character, Ivan in Author, Author, upon confronting, LArry Kotzwinkle, the guy that his wife ran off with ...

 

Ivan : I have done many terrible things in my life but I have never put another man's wife in my bed.

Larry Kotzwinkle : Wasn't she married to that Spanish painter when you slept with her?

Ivan : Don't prove me wrong, Larry, I hate it when I'm proven wrong.

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24 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

You might want to read more about the assaults that have occurred.   A little more than meals interrupted.  Nice cherry picking your examples in an attempt to minimize.

You mean cherry picking like the one sentence in three paragraphs?  And a sentence that, nonetheless indicates more than just the one item listed?

 

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41 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

True. You never admit it when you're proven wrong, lol.

So says the individual who when proven wrong about Social Security being a government entitlement program (as defined by the U.S. Senate itself, nonetheless) instead dodges, ducks, and spins.   

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