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2 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

 

I know, I tried to warn people against voting Democrat. 

Well, considering COVID was released under a GOP President, and the COVID is pushing you closer to death, it might be better if Trump had been re-elected. You, with all of your pre-existing conditions, would probably be dead, which would be a net positive for this world. 

2 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

 

I know, I tried to warn people against voting Democrat. 

And some of us also can afford to buy vehicles made in this decade. 

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On 7/20/2022 at 5:18 AM, Muda69 said:

Yep.  I recently visited Charlestown state part, located on the Ohio River.  It's a nice pace to watch the coal barges go up and down the river:

Coal barge on Ohio river, USA

Coal will be the next thing to get a California Smiley. 

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9 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

Well, considering COVID was released under a GOP President, and the COVID is pushing you closer to death, it might be better if Trump had been re-elected. You, with all of your pre-existing conditions, would probably be dead, which would be a net positive for this world. 

And some of us also can afford to buy vehicles made in this decade. 

You are a sick fuck. 

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In an interesting move today the long rumored entry of Porsche as a power unit supplier to F1 has finally been out to paper. It’s still widely speculated what badge will adorn the engine cover, given Porsche’s long and storied racing past we  can only assume Porsche. But Audi and VW already heavily involved in Formula E have some background in the tech. 
Again this is current hybrid technology and three very high profile European manufacturers are jumping in the deep end. Meanwhile on this side of the pond, Ford and GM are doing what?

The really shocking part of the release was that Porsche also bought 50% of Red Bull Technology, which is the company that builds the chassis. 

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In a state rife with rolling blackouts - Let's put more stress on the power grid......

https://dnyuz.com/2022/08/24/california-to-ban-the-sale-of-new-gasoline-cars/

The rule, issued by the California Air Resources Board, will require that 100 percent of all new cars sold in the state by 2035 be free of the fossil fuel emissions chiefly responsible for warming the planet, up from 12 percent today. It sets interim targets requiring that 35 percent of new passenger vehicles sold in the state by 2026 produce zero emissions. That would climb to 68 percent by 2030.

The restrictions are important because not only is California the largest auto market in the United States, but more than a dozen other states typically follow California’s lead when setting their own auto emissions standards.

“The climate crisis is solvable if we focus on the big, bold steps necessary to stem the tide of carbon pollution,” Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, said in a statement.

Again, where SF is sitting typing this post, many, many, many years ago it was under hundreds of feet of snow and ice........Still not convinced that "fossil fuel emissions are chiefly responsible for warming the planet".  Not even close considering the ice and snow retreated waaaayy to the North a long time before we became the top polluter of the world.

Just wondering what will happen when the planet is still experiencing climate change (in both directions - hot and cold) long after EV's are the norm and fossil fuels are extinct.  Mankind's opinion that we can control the control the Earth's climate is pretty lofty.  (IMHO)

You want to talk about stewardship and how mankind is polluting and how can we clean it up and leave a cleaner planet for our kids?  I'm on board with that.

 

 

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Another "making sense" moment in CA - we want you drive electric cars, but WAIT, we don't have enough energy for you to charge them when you need to......So please "voluntarily" do this so we won't have to force "drastic measures" (ie: laws)

Wonder how bad it's gonna get when the gas-powered engines are really outlawed in CA.....

http://www.caiso.com/Documents/excessive-heat-starting-tomorrow-will-stress-energy-grid.pdf

The power grid operator expects to call on Californians for voluntary energy conservation via Flex alerts over the long weekend.

During a Flex Alert, consumers are urged to reduce energy use from 4-9 p.m. when the system is most stressed because demand for electricity remains high and there is less solar energy available. The top three conservation actions are to set thermostats to 78 degrees or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn off unnecessary lights. Lowering electricity use during that time will ease strain on the system, and prevent more drastic measures, including rotating power outages.

 

 

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On 8/30/2022 at 1:53 PM, swordfish said:

Yeah - this makes perfect sense.....Spend $40-60,000 (or more) on an EV and in order to keep it running past it's prime needing to drop another $26 grand into it......

In case you doubt this - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chevy-volt-battery-invoice/

May be an image of text that says 'CHEVROLET Roger Dean Chevrolet Repair Estimate Estimate#: AP31 AP314119 Vehicle: Volt 08/23/2022 Estimate Date: VIN:1G1RB6E4XCU113962 Customer#: Address: 8:49 AM Odometer: 70,489 License#: Advisor#: CUSTOMER QUOTE (H) (B) Operation: N0110 Battery, r&r HYBRID BATTERY REPLACEMENT (Ext) Qty Part Number GM24043694 M12378390 Misc Code ' BATTERY COOLANT Part Price 26,853.99 16.99 BAT ExtPrice 26,853.99 33.98 Misc Description SHOP SUPPLIES FL STATE BATTERY FEE s403.718 Ext Price 40. 40.00 .50 LABOR PARTS $: GOG$ MISC $: TAX 1,200.00 26,887.9 0.00 1,712.68 SUBTOTAL: 29,842.15 CUSTOMER COPY Page'

It keeps going: A car is totalled if the cost of a repair is more than the car is worth.......

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/high-charge-owner-finds-battery-replacement-more-electric-car?fbclid=IwAR1tJovwLqDg10MVPBsp2ZqVOB-ER32_BrGR17wJEO4U7T1CbST3LjfD694 

A St. Petersburg, Florida family has been informed it will cost $14,000 to replace the battery on a used electric car they purchased for $11,000.

17 year-old Avery Siwinski was the driver of the Ford Focus Electric. The car is a 2014 model, with 60,000 miles. 

"It was fine at first," Siwinski told 10 Tampa Bay. "I loved it so much. It was small and quiet and cute. And all of a sudden it stopped working."

Siwinski reportedly had her car for six months before her dashboard started to light up with warnings. 

"In March, it started giving an alert," she said. "And then we took it to the shop and it stopped running."

The car has sat at a dealership for months. The Siwinski’s received a quote for a new battery for $14,000. That’s $3K more than they bought the car for. The quote didn’t include labor charges.

As is the case with many car parts during the Biden administration, the family has discovered the batteries aren’t even available if they wanted to purchase one.

A dealership has offered to buy the car from the family for $500.

A car is considered totaled when the cost of repairs exceed the car’s value. This is a clear example of a totaled car. 

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https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2022-09-01-power-company-took-over-customers-thermostats-due-to-energy-emergency/?sc=editorial&keyid=KFI-AM&pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2TuioVtkXYnBK2vo34bI80hagHAp1BEfCKQw8qj8wUD3vInlYWvwRoDIs

Around 22,000 people in Colorado were unable to adjust their smart thermostats after Xcel Energy took them over due to a power emergency. Xcel made the decision after a unit at a power plant failed amid a heatwave in the state.

All of the customers were part of Xcel's AC Rewards program, which allows the power company to adjust their thermostats in exchange for a $100 enrollment credit and a yearly rebate of $35. This is the first time in the six-year history of the program that Xcel has adjusted customers' thermostats and prevented them from being changed.

 

Tony Talarico told KMGH that he was surprised when he couldn't lower the temperature at his partner's home.

"Normally, when we see a message like that, we're able to override it," Talarico said. "In this case, we weren't. So, our thermostat was locked in at 78 or 79."

"I mean, it was 90 out, and it was right during the peak period," Talarico added. "It was hot."

One person on social media claimed that the temperature inside their home topped out at 88 degrees.

An official from the power company told the news station that all of the customers voluntarily opted into the program.

 

"It's a voluntary program. Let's remember that this is something that customers choose to be a part of based on the incentives," said Emmett Romine, vice president of customer solutions and innovation at Xcel.

"So, it helps everybody for people to participate in these programs. It is a bit uncomfortable for a short period of time, but it's very, very helpful," Romine added.

 

"So, it helps everybody for people to participate in these programs. It is a bit uncomfortable for a short period of time, but it's very, very helpful,"

(NO THANKS - Don't touch my thermostat!)

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California Wants Everybody To Buy an Electric Car, but Its Own Energy Grid Can't Support It

https://reason.com/2022/09/01/california-wants-everybody-to-buy-an-electric-car-but-its-own-energy-grid-cant-support-it/

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A massive heatwave has come to California, so citizens of the Golden State may be enduring triple-digit temperatures for a week. The pressure the heat will throw onto the state's power grid has prompted an emergency call for citizens to reduce electricity use during peak early evening hours. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom has declared a state of emergency that temporarily eases some state regulations limiting operations of thermal power plants and portable generators.

Part of this call for citizens to reduce electricity consumption from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. also includes a request that citizens "avoid charging electric vehicles while the Flex Alert is in effect." This request comes only a week after California leaders moved forward with a plan to ban most gasoline-powered vehicle sales in the state (with an exception for hybrid vehicles) by 2035.

Though it is true that such a ban will reduce emissions, switching to electric vehicles will over time dramatically increase the strain on California's power grid. If everybody in California went out and bought electric vehicles tomorrow, it would probably be an energy disaster.

That's probably not going to happen for a few reasons. California solely plans to ban sales, not all operation of gasoline-powered cars. Millions of Californians won't and probably can't afford to transition to electric vehicles within the next 13 years. Though California has the most electric vehicles registered of any state (550,000), that's out of more than 14 million total vehicles, so still a drop in the bucket.

In that sense, the slow-but-steady adoption of electric vehicles should give the state the opportunity to actually plan for an increase in energy demand. On Wednesday, lawmakers voted to keep the nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, open until at least 2030. It had been scheduled to be decommissioned by 2025.

A 2017 report from the California Energy Commission which forecasted energy demand until 2030 did so by assuming an increase in adoption of electric vehicles in the state. Their highest estimate assumes 3.9 million of these vehicles on the road in California by 2030. The increase in electricity demand would thus be significant, jumping from less than 1,000 gigawatt hours in 2017 to about 16,000 by 2030. California consumes about 260 terawatt hours of electricity annually, according to U.S. Department of Energy statistics. It would be an increase in energy demand of around 6 percent per year by 2030.

A single nuclear plant could handle a good chunk of this new demand, but the amount of energy generated would still be far less than needed to achieve California's long-term goal of getting rid of gas-powered vehicles entirely and switching to electric.

The government shouldn't be forcing people to purchase—or abstain from purchasing—certain types of vehicles in the first place. But beyond that, signaling to the public that the electricity grid is being overtaxed during the summer does not instill residents with confidence that California is prepared for the transition it's trying to mandate.

 

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Isn't New York City supposed to be underwater by now?  (According to Al Gore's book).....

Interesting post from David Moe (B.Sc. in Chemistry & Mathematics, University of Calgary (Graduated 1970)Upvoted by, B.S. Accounting & Mathematics, University of Houston-Clear Lake (1994) Author)

The ocean is not rising at 1/2 foot per year, according to NASA satellite measurements, it is rising at 3.2 millimetres per year. That works out to one foot per century. At that rate, it will take 600 years for it to rise 6 feet. Just ignore everything that rocket scientist Al Gore said in his book.

600 years is a long time to raise the land level 6 feet, in fact the land will rise 12 feet on on its own if they don’t take away the grass clippings, fallen leaves, and dust falling out of the air. I had that experience with an old house I used to own. The house was 100 years old and the lawn was 2 feet higher than when the house was built.

Left to its own devices, the land will rise an average of two feet per century. That’s how the ancient artifacts and dinosaurs got buried so deep.

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1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Isn't New York City supposed to be underwater by now?  (According to Al Gore's book).....

Interesting post from David Moe (B.Sc. in Chemistry & Mathematics, University of Calgary (Graduated 1970)Upvoted by, B.S. Accounting & Mathematics, University of Houston-Clear Lake (1994) Author)

The ocean is not rising at 1/2 foot per year, according to NASA satellite measurements, it is rising at 3.2 millimetres per year. That works out to one foot per century. At that rate, it will take 600 years for it to rise 6 feet. Just ignore everything that rocket scientist Al Gore said in his book.

600 years is a long time to raise the land level 6 feet, in fact the land will rise 12 feet on on its own if they don’t take away the grass clippings, fallen leaves, and dust falling out of the air. I had that experience with an old house I used to own. The house was 100 years old and the lawn was 2 feet higher than when the house was built.

Left to its own devices, the land will rise an average of two feet per century. That’s how the ancient artifacts and dinosaurs got buried so deep.

Follow the money. 

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