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1 hour ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

The issue in 6A North with Cathedral in 6A is at least two teams between Zionsville, Westfield, Noblesville, Fishers, HSE and Carmel will HAVE to go to sectionals 1-3 somewhere. There are only 10 schools north of those schools, so 2 will have to go that way for their sectionals. My best guess is the "northern" most of that grouping is Noblesville and Westfield. Noblesville has been in a sectional with Fort Wayne schools in the past, so that makes sense for them to definitely be 1 of the schools heading WAY north. Westfield having to go a long way up Highway 31 to be included in Sectional 3 seems crazy, but the only other logical option would be to send Zionsville up Highway 65 with Laf Jeff and 2 region schools.

2 options as I see it:

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lafayette Jeff, Lake Central, Portage
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Penn, Warsaw, Westfield
Sectional 3: Carroll (FW), Homestead, Noblesville, Northrop
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton SE, Zionsville

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lafayette Jeff, Lake Central, Zionvsille
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Penn, Portage, Warsaw
Sectional 3: Carroll (FW), Homestead, Noblesville, Northrop
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton SE, Westfield

Anything different than either of these two options would come from breaking up schools that normally the IHSAA has not done in the past. Something crazy like this could work, but doesn't seem likely

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lake Central, Penn, Portage
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Lafayette Jeff, Northrop, Warsaw
Sectional 3: Carroll (FW), Fishers, Hamilton SE, Homestead
Sectional 4: Carmel, Noblesville, Westfield, Zionsville

See what I mean? That's just really messy. I think they obviously keep these "pods" together when it comes to the North

Lake Central and Crown Point (2)
Penn and Elkhart (2)
Carroll, Homestead and Northrop (3)
Fishers and HSE (2)

That's 9 of 16 6A North schools that I feel like the IHSAA always trieds to keep together. Another random options could be:

Sectional 1: Crown Point, Lake Central, Penn, Portage
Sectional 2: Elkhart, Carroll (FW), Homestead, Northrop
Sectional 3: Lafayette Jeff, Noblesville, Warsaw, Westfield
Sectional 4: Carmel, Fishers, Hamilton SE, Zionsville

I think Cathedral is in 6A if the IHSAA realigns this spring for the 22-23 and 23-24 cycle.  Wouldn’t be surprised if they take the cowardly stance of saying let’s go 1 more year with frozen enrollments.

Here’s what I see for 6A:

Sectional 1: Lake Central, Crown Point, Portage, Lafayette Jeff

Sectional 2: Penn, Elkhart, Warsaw, Homestead

Sectional 3: Carroll, FW Northrop, Hamilton Southeastern, Fishers

Sectional 4: Noblesville, Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville

Sectional 5: Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central

Sectional 6: Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Pike

Sectional 7: Perry Meridian, Southport, Arsenal Tech, Warren Central

Sectional 8: Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Jeffersonville

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17 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said:

I think Cathedral is in 6A if the IHSAA realigns this spring for the 22-23 and 23-24 cycle.  Wouldn’t be surprised if they take the cowardly stance of saying let’s go 1 more year with frozen enrollments.

Here’s what I see for 6A:

Sectional 1: Lake Central, Crown Point, Portage, Lafayette Jeff

Sectional 2: Penn, Elkhart, Warsaw, Homestead

Sectional 3: Carroll, FW Northrop, Hamilton Southeastern, Fishers

I would switch Carroll and Homestead in this scenario. Carroll is more NE of Fort Wayne and could hope on US 33 to Elkhart faster, and Homestead is closer to I-69 to head south.

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Clinton Central 252

Wow.  Never thought I would see the day where Clinton Central was smaller than Lafayette Central Catholic.

Bulldog nation is slowly dying.  It looks like a consolidation is real possibility in the near future.  

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17 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

One correction to make - I didn’t have Christel House Manual in my first post.  I also added enrollment rank.

305    Indianapolis Manual    225
 

I still messed this up. Added Christel House and didn’t take out Indy Manual.  There should be 316 schools.  32 in 5A and 6A.  Probably 63 in each class for 1A-4A.

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2 hours ago, Warren Central Warrior said:

Warren Central being stuck in Sectional 7 worries me

Do tell.  Inquiring minds would like to know.

Please and thank you.  🙂

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18 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

Purdue Poly is on the east side of downtown Indy on Washington Street.  They probably have quite a few students from the former Indianapolis Howe that didn’t want to go to Arsenal Tech after Howe closed.  If the Howe campus is available it would make a lot of sense to move this school there.

Purdue has invested a lot of money in the building where they are. Not sure how that might factor moving to Irvington. 

2 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

I think Cathedral is in 6A if the IHSAA realigns this spring for the 22-23 and 23-24 cycle.  Wouldn’t be surprised if they take the cowardly stance of saying let’s go 1 more year with frozen enrollments.

Here’s what I see for 6A:

Sectional 1: Lake Central, Crown Point, Portage, Lafayette Jeff

Sectional 2: Penn, Elkhart, Warsaw, Homestead

Sectional 3: Carroll, FW Northrop, Hamilton Southeastern, Fishers

Sectional 4: Noblesville, Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville

Sectional 5: Cathedral, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, North Central

Sectional 6: Avon, Ben Davis, Brownsburg, Pike

Sectional 7: Perry Meridian, Southport, Arsenal Tech, Warren Central

Sectional 8: Center Grove, Columbus North, Franklin Central, Jeffersonville

Makes a lot of sense. That means that they'll probably put Ben Davis in with Sectional 8 and Center Grove in Sectional 6.

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34 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

Makes a lot of sense. That means that they'll probably put Ben Davis in with Sectional 8 and Center Grove in Sectional 6.

You're joking right? There's no reason why the IHSAA would put Ben Dvais in Sectional 8 and move Center Grove to Sectoinal 6 unless I'm completely missing something here. Sorry if I am.

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2 hours ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

You're joking right? There's no reason why the IHSAA would put Ben Dvais in Sectional 8 and move Center Grove to Sectoinal 6 unless I'm completely missing something here. Sorry if I am.

IHSAA just rubber stamps the recommendations of the alignment committees. The committees are usually made up of AD’s or administrators from schools in that class, so all it would take is one person on the alignment committee that doesn’t want Ben Davis in their path.  If, for example, a Warren Central admin is on the 6A committee and decides they don’t want to play both BD and CG in the tournament, putting them in the same sectional solves that problem.  And don’t think it hasn’t happened.  It does in almost every alignment cycle.

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2 hours ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

You're joking right? There's no reason why the IHSAA would put Ben Dvais in Sectional 8 and move Center Grove to Sectoinal 6 unless I'm completely missing something here. Sorry if I am.

I think he was being sarcastic.

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39 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said:

IHSAA just rubber stamps the recommendations of the alignment committees. The committees are usually made up of AD’s or administrators from schools in that class, so all it would take is one person on the alignment committee that doesn’t want Ben Davis in their path.  If, for example, a Warren Central admin is on the 6A committee and decides they don’t want to play both BD and CG in the tournament, putting them in the same sectional solves that problem.  And don’t think it hasn’t happened.  It does in almost every alignment cycle.

Sectional of Death comes to mind.

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On 1/20/2022 at 8:41 PM, HoopsCoach said:

Dugger Union will become tourney eligible in 22-23, and Purdue Polytechnic will become tourney eligible in 23-24, so they are both included.

What sucks is Dugger probably wont even have enough kids to play.

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If I am wrong please some one tell me.   These are the numbers for 9thru12 of this year?  If so I do not understand why they would count the seniors class.   For the ishaa  to assign rankings for what level the school is at for each sport.  Would it not make more since to go 8true11 to get the numbers 

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24 minutes ago, Trojanmp52 said:

If I am wrong please some one tell me.   These are the numbers for 9thru12 of this year?  If so I do not understand why they would count the seniors class.   For the ishaa  to assign rankings for what level the school is at for each sport.  Would it not make more since to go 8true11 to get the numbers 

Doesn’t work when you have open enrollment.

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50 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Doesn’t work when you have open enrollment.

I do understand open enrollment changes some stuff a little but I would say that 98% of most kids will go to the high school that is the same system as the middle school

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29 minutes ago, Trojanmp52 said:

I do understand open enrollment changes some stuff a little but I would say that 98% of most kids will go to the high school that is the same system as the middle school

Yeah but take Columbus for example. There are two middle schools (Central and Northside). Neither of them are assigned to a particular high school. Most kids that attend Northside go to Columbus North but not all do. Just like most kids that go to Central go to Columbus East but not all do. Add in St. Peter’s Lutheran and St. Bartholomew Catholic which are K-8. Neither of them are assigned to a particular high school. So that’s where issues arise.

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5 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Yeah but take Columbus for example. There are two middle schools (Central and Northside). Neither of them are assigned to a particular high school. Most kids that attend Northside go to Columbus North but not all do. Just like most kids that go to Central go to Columbus East but not all do. Add in St. Peter’s Lutheran and St. Bartholomew Catholic which are K-8. Neither of them are assigned to a particular high school. So that’s where issues arise.

Good  points I did not that their was Public middles school that did not have set high school they feed into

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On 1/20/2022 at 7:41 PM, HoopsCoach said:

Finally released by the DOE.  Schools with an * do not report enrollments to the DOE, so their numbers are just what the IHSAA has in their directory and may not be current.  Enrollments only include students in grades 9-12.  Probably not perfect, but it should give an idea what the next alignment would be based off of.

Dugger Union will become tourney eligible in 22-23, and Purdue Polytechnic will become tourney eligible in 23-24, so they are both included.

Carmel  5327

Ben Davis 4557

Warren Central 3845

North Central (Indpls.) 3709

Fishers 3611

Hamilton Southeastern 3430

Pike 3387

Penn 3345

Elkhart 3294

Avon 3248

Noblesville 3220

Lake Central 3211

Franklin Central 3206

Brownsburg 2983

Crown Point 2923

Lawrence North 2833

Center Grove 2754

Westfield 2611

Homestead 2502

Carroll (F.W.) 2472

Southport 2379

Perry Meridian 2373

Portage 2269

Lawrence Central 2245

Zionsville 2233

Columbus North 2219

Lafayette Jefferson 2153

Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2111

Jeffersonville 2099

Warsaw 2087

Fort Wayne Northrop 2080

Harrison (West Lafayette) 2079

Valparaiso 2063

Whiteland 2012

Merrillville 2003

Decatur Central 2001

Chesterton 1995

Goshen 1980

Castle 1933

South Bend Adams 1917

Hammond Central 1904

Fort Wayne Snider 1872

Floyd Central 1854

Anderson 1837

Plainfield 1810

McCutcheon 1807

New Albany 1787

LaPorte 1756

Hammond Morton 1729

Concord 1689

Evansville North 1687

Bloomington South 1655

Terre Haute South 1650

Seymour 1604

Bloomington North 1592

Mishawaka 1584

Terre Haute North 1575

Franklin Community 1571

Munster 1568

Columbus East 1534

Michigan City 1526

Fort Wayne North Side 1513

Kokomo 1488

Greenfield-Central 1474

Huntington North 1442

Muncie Central 1437

Northridge 1410

Pendleton Heights 1409

Bedford-North Lawrence 1391

Mooresville 1391

Fort Wayne South Side 1385

Fort Wayne Wayne 1379

Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1375

Richmond 1315

Martinsville 1284

East Central 1264

Evansville Reitz 1264

Hobart 1264

Logansport 1252

Gary West Side 1226

Greenwood 1186

Jennings County 1180

New Palestine 1162

Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 1135

Shelbyville 1133

Evansville Harrison 1124

Columbia City 1108

East Chicago Central 1107

Indianapolis Roncalli 1081

DeKalb 1080

Plymouth 1079

Indianapolis Cathedral 1073

Lowell 1068

Kankakee Valley 1055

Evansville Central 1051

New Haven 1047

East Noble 1042

Jasper 1038

Marion 1036

South Bend Riley 1030

Highland 1021

Indianapolis Shortridge 1015

Lebanon 1001

New Prairie 985

Connersville 981

Beech Grove 968

Leo 963

Northview 955

Wawasee 945

Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 928

Silver Creek 911

Indianapolis Washington 906

Frankfort 893

Boonville 879

Northwood 879

New Castle 875

Jay County 871

Brebeuf Jesuit 841

Western 838

Culver Academies 832*

Mississinewa 808

South Bend Saint Joseph 806

South Bend Washington 801

Edgewood 800

Angola 793

Norwell 790

Delta 781

South Bend Clay 778

Evansvill Bosse 776

Hanover Central 763

Yorktown 763

Danville 759

Franklin County 756

West Lafayette 752

Guerin Catholic 740

Washington 738

Madison 736

Hamilton Heights 731

Corydon Central 730

Vincennes Lincoln 722

Charlestown 717

Greensburg 716

Lawrenceburg 715

Scottsburg 715

Batesville 707

Gibson Southern 703

West Noble 698

Crawfordsville 695

Mishawaka Marian 690

South Dearborn 689

North Harrison 687

Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 667

Rushville 656

Twin Lakes 655

Owen Valley 650

Peru 650

Mt Vernon (Posey) 643

Bellmont 641

John Glenn 636

Tri-West 624

Calumet 622

Heritage 615

Heritage Hills 615

Fort Wayne Concordia 610

Griffith 609

Northwestern 605

Maconaquah 604

Garrett 602

Princeton 596

Indian Creek 591

Jimtown 582

Lakeland 578

Purdue Polytechnic (23-24) 563

Tippecanoe Valley 561

Evansville Memorial 556

Knox 551

North Montgomery 549

Fairfield 543

Speedway 543

Woodlan 538

Monrovia 531

Salem 531

Oak Hill 526

West Vigo 525

Centerville 517

Rensselaer Central 517

Boone Grove 516

Southridge 515

Pike Central 512

River Forest 511

Western Boone 511

South Vermillion 509

Benton Central 508

Frankton 507

Bremen 502

Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 502

Brown County 501

Evansville Mater Dei 496

Heritage Christian 496

Cascade 495

Hammond Bishop Noll 493

Alexandria 492

Rochester 492

Blackford 489

Eastbrook 489

Southmont 487

Brownstown Central 483

Whiting 482

Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 481

Manchester 479

Lapel 477

Greencastle 475

Sullivan 472

Bluffton 471

Wabash 471

Triton Central 461

Eastern (Greentown) 455

Tipton 454

Mitchell 451

North Posey 445

North Putnam 444

Tell City 440

Indianapolis Scecina 439

Wheeler 436

Prairie Heights 432

Switzerland County 428

Northeastern 425

Eastern (Pekin) 419

Delphi 418

Central Noble 417

Whitko 417

Crawford County 415

Shenandoah 415

Lewis Cass 411

Elwood 410

Andrean 408

Winchester 405

Paoli 401

Churubusco 397

Clarksville 395

Union County 393

Perry Central 392

Lake Station Edison 388

LaVille 388

North Knox 388

Eastside 387

Seeger 387

Winamac 387

Linton-Stockton 386

Forest Park 383

Eastern Hancock 379

Park Tudor 378*

South Spencer 375

Parke Heritage 368

Adams Central 366

South Putnam 359

North Newton 358

Clinton Prairie 353

Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 352

Madison-Grant 352

Taylor 352

Carroll (Flora) 337

South Adams 334

Hagerstown 332

Sheridan 329

Knightstown 328

Providence 327

North Judson 323

Eastern Greene 321

Monroe Central 320

Milan 318

Pioneer 313

South Central (Union Mills) 313

Cloverdale 312

Riverton Parke 311

North Decatur 301

Lafayette Central Catholic 296

Covington 294

Fremont 291

North Daviess 286

Wes-Del 286

Bowman Academy 285

North Miami 285

Tecumseh 283

Fountain Central 275

Northfield 273

Cambridge City Lincoln 272

North White 272

West Washington 268

Springs Valley 264

South Decatur 260

Triton 258

North Central (Farmersburg) 257

Culver 255

Clinton Central 252

Southern Wells 252

Union City 246

Anderson Prep Academy 241

Southwood 240

Caston 234

Tri 234

Tri Central 233

Edinburgh 227

Indianapolis Manual 225

South Newton 225

Indianapolis Lutheran 224

Indianapolis Tindley 219

Tri-County 218

North Vermillion 213

Frontier 196

West Central 196

Dugger Union 193

Rock Creek Academy 176

Attica 170

Traders Point Christian 124

Indiana Deaf 94*

In my opinion, the most shocking and saddest of these enrollment numbers is Griffith High at 609. I'm not sure they've ever had that low of enrollment in recent history (2 or 3 decades). They've always hovered in the small 4A, big 3A range. For Griffith to be considered a small 3A is mind boggling for a guy from the region. 

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1 hour ago, coach_schreibjr said:

In my opinion, the most shocking and saddest of these enrollment numbers is Griffith High at 609. I'm not sure they've ever had that low of enrollment in recent history (2 or 3 decades). They've always hovered in the small 4A, big 3A range. For Griffith to be considered a small 3A is mind boggling for a guy from the region. 

Griffith was at 823 in the most recent IHSAA classification count.

609 represents a 26% drop in enrollment over a 2 to 3 year period.  Probably only Indy Tech is close to that % of drop.

For those who wish that Griffith would have never left the NCC for the GSSC, this is what the Griffith planners were anticipating when they made the move to downsize their athletic programs.

https://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/Enrollments 19202021.pdf

 

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50 minutes ago, HHF said:

For those who wish that Griffith would have never left the NCC for the GSSC, this is what the Griffith planners were anticipating when they made the move to downsize their athletic programs.

If this has been expected for a little while now (enough so to move to a smaller conference) - what are the driving forces here? I realize Griffith is kind of landlocked surrounded by Merrillville, Munster, Highland and the Hammond schools, but at the same time, to me that would mean their enrollment would stay rather consistent?

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17 minutes ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:

If this has been expected for a little while now (enough so to move to a smaller conference) - what are the driving forces here? I realize Griffith is kind of landlocked surrounded by Merrillville, Munster, Highland and the Hammond schools, but at the same time, to me that would mean their enrollment would stay rather consistent?

White flight

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