WWFan Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Perry Central moved from 1A to 2A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Football Guru 25 said: 2a alignment thoughts?? River Forrest moving to 2a shuffles things a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQWL Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Sectional 40: North Posey, Mater Dei, Tell City, Perry Central, Forest Park, Linton, Sullivan, North Knox Sectional 39: Brown Co., Switzerland Co., Crawford Co., Brownstown, Mitchell, Eastern Pekin, Paoli, Clarksville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, JQWL said: Sectional 40: North Posey, Mater Dei, Tell City, Perry Central, Forest Park, Linton, Sullivan, North Knox Sectional 39: Brown Co., Switzerland Co., Crawford Co., Brownstown, Mitchell, Eastern Pekin, Paoli, Clarksville I would agree with your pairings. I didn’t realize South Spencer had dropped to A until this post. And 39? I will take Brownstown and you could have the field. Seems there is a clear favorite based on past history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjay Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 This all makes no sense. Pioneer has a one time talent in Jack Kiser and hasn’t won state since 2018. Chatard wins state in 2019 & 2020. Neither wins sectional in 2021. Chatard goes down, Pioneer stays up. I know what the rule says about points earned in a higher class. But this just looks wrong. IHSAA should have just reset everything to enrollment and started over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Football Guru 25 said: 2a alignment thoughts?? On a first look at it, this is how I'd do it. Andrean, Bishop Noll, Bremen, LaVille, Thomas Edison, Wheeler, Whiting Bishop Luers, Bluffton, Central Noble, Churubusco, Eastside, Manchester, Prairie Heights, Whitko Blackford, Eastbrook, Eastern, Lewis Cass, Pioneer, Rochester, Wabash, Winamac Benton Central, Delphi, Greencastle, LCC, North Putnam, Seeger, South Vermillion, Southmont Alexandria, Elwood, Lapel, Frankton, Northeastern, Tipton, Shenandoah, Winchester Cardinal Ritter, Cascade, Christel House Manual, Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Scecina, Triton Central, Union County Brown County, Brownstown, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern, Mitchell, Paoli, Switzerland County Forest Park, Linton Stockton, Mater Dei, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Tell City, Sullivan I think 7 of the 8 make geographical sense and the other one starts with the Indianapolis teams and grabs everything that's left. Cascade really fits better with Greencastle and North Putnam but it's the furthest East of those schools and someone needed to go towards the Indy-based sectional. You could also swap Eastbrook and Blackford into the Fort Wayne sectional for Manchester and Whitko and it would make some sense based on the map but I thought having Whitko and Manchester in the same sectional as Prairie Heights looks a little better than Eastbrook and Blackford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, superjay said: This all makes no sense. Pioneer has a one time talent in Jack Kiser and hasn’t won state since 2018. Chatard wins state in 2019 & 2020. Neither wins sectional in 2021. Chatard goes down, Pioneer stays up. I know what the rule says about points earned in a higher class. But this just looks wrong. IHSAA should have just reset everything to enrollment and started over. It is perplexing. I think you could make the argument that any team that won a state championship last year should move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Pioneer beat Andrean in 2020 Regionals to stay up in class. River Forest in smallest 3A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, XStar said: On a first look at it, this is how I'd do it. Andrean, Bishop Noll, Bremen, LaVille, Thomas Edison, Wheeler, Whiting Bishop Luers, Bluffton, Central Noble, Churubusco, Eastside, Manchester, Prairie Heights, Whitko Blackford, Eastbrook, Eastern, Lewis Cass, Pioneer, Rochester, Wabash, Winamac Benton Central, Delphi, Greencastle, LCC, North Putnam, Seeger, South Vermillion, Southmont Alexandria, Elwood, Lapel, Frankton, Northeastern, Tipton, Shenandoah, Winchester Cardinal Ritter, Cascade, Christel House Manual, Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Scecina, Triton Central, Union County Brown County, Brownstown, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern, Mitchell, Paoli, Switzerland County Forest Park, Linton Stockton, Mater Dei, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Tell City, Sullivan I think 7 of the 8 make geographical sense and the other one starts with the Indianapolis teams and grabs everything that's left. Cascade really fits better with Greencastle and North Putnam but it's the furthest East of those schools and someone needed to go towards the Indy-based sectional. You could also swap Eastbrook and Blackford into the Fort Wayne sectional for Manchester and Whitko and it would make some sense based on the map but I thought having Whitko and Manchester in the same sectional as Prairie Heights looks a little better than Eastbrook and Blackford. Are there 63 schools in 2A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonace1 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, superjay said: This all makes no sense. Pioneer has a one time talent in Jack Kiser and hasn’t won state since 2018. Chatard wins state in 2019 & 2020. Neither wins sectional in 2021. Chatard goes down, Pioneer stays up. I know what the rule says about points earned in a higher class. But this just looks wrong. IHSAA should have just reset everything to enrollment and started over. Long story short Pioneer: was already up due to 6 points earned in 2018/2019. This year's classifications were based on points earned in the higher class in 2020-21 *for the schools who were already up.* Pioneer got 2 points in 2020, thus it stays up because it has two points in the two-year cycle. Chatard: Moved up in 2021 due to the points earned in 2019/2020. Did NOT win a sectional (0 points). For the teams that moved up in 2021, the ones who won a sectional stayed up (Dwenger, LCC), while those that didn't (Chatard) moved back down. It's a bit odd but I understand the logic. If neither Dwenger or LCC wins a sectional this year, they'll move back down for 2022. It's really confusing because the IHSAA extended the last enrollment cycle by one year but decided to apply success factor points while extending the cycle and now needs to get them re-calibrated back to the beginning. They weren't going to go back to "straight enrollment" and reset - imagine the howling when Cathedral moves back to 4A after steamrolling 5A in back-to-back years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 This makes sense to me in the 2A North. Sectional 33 would have 7 with a bye. 33 - Whiting, Bishop Noll, Lake Station Edison, Andrean, Wheeler, Laville, Bremen 34 - Delphi, Pioneer, Winamac, Rochester, Cass, Wabash, Manchester, Whitko 35 - Prairie Heights, Eastside, Churubusco, Central Noble, Luers, Bluffton, Eastbrook 36 - Eastern (Greentown), Tipton, Elwood, Frankton, Alexandria, Lapel, Winchester, Blackford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Punttheball said: This makes sense to me in the 2A North. Sectional 33 would have 7 with a bye. 33 - Whiting, Bishop Noll, Lake Station Edison, Andrean, Wheeler, Laville, Bremen 34 - Delphi, Pioneer, Winamac, Rochester, Cass, Wabash, Manchester, Whitko 35 - Prairie Heights, Eastside, Churubusco, Central Noble, Luers, Bluffton, Eastbrook 36 - Eastern (Greentown), Tipton, Elwood, Frankton, Alexandria, Lapel, Winchester, Blackford 35 is short a team if 33 is your 7-team sectional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XStar Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Punttheball said: Are there 63 schools in 2A? I think so based on the map provided here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, XStar said: 35 is short a team if 33 is your 7-team sectional. Good catch! Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I think this might work for 2A North. Sectional 33 would have 7 with a bye. 33 - Whiting, Bishop Noll, Lake Station Edison, Andrean, Wheeler, Laville, Bremen 34 - Delphi, Pioneer, Winamac, Rochester, Cass, Wabash, Manchester, Whitko 35 - Prairie Heights, Eastside, Churubusco, Central Noble, Luers, Bluffton, Eastbrook, Blackford 36 - Eastern (Greentown), Tipton, Elwood, Frankton, Alexandria, Lapel, Winchester, Shenandoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Guru 25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, XStar said: On a first look at it, this is how I'd do it. Andrean, Bishop Noll, Bremen, LaVille, Thomas Edison, Wheeler, Whiting Bishop Luers, Bluffton, Central Noble, Churubusco, Eastside, Manchester, Prairie Heights, Whitko Blackford, Eastbrook, Eastern, Lewis Cass, Pioneer, Rochester, Wabash, Winamac Benton Central, Delphi, Greencastle, LCC, North Putnam, Seeger, South Vermillion, Southmont Alexandria, Elwood, Lapel, Frankton, Northeastern, Tipton, Shenandoah, Winchester Cardinal Ritter, Cascade, Christel House Manual, Eastern Hancock, Heritage Christian, Scecina, Triton Central, Union County Brown County, Brownstown, Clarksville, Crawford County, Eastern, Mitchell, Paoli, Switzerland County Forest Park, Linton Stockton, Mater Dei, North Knox, North Posey, Perry Central, Tell City, Sullivan I think 7 of the 8 make geographical sense and the other one starts with the Indianapolis teams and grabs everything that's left. Cascade really fits better with Greencastle and North Putnam but it's the furthest East of those schools and someone needed to go towards the Indy-based sectional. You could also swap Eastbrook and Blackford into the Fort Wayne sectional for Manchester and Whitko and it would make some sense based on the map but I thought having Whitko and Manchester in the same sectional as Prairie Heights looks a little better than Eastbrook and Blackford. Alot of movement in this Class 2a!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Guru 25 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 When will sectionals be decided?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_and_10 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Football Guru 25 said: When will sectionals be decided?? Beginning of May according to IHSAA website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Stephens Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 The changing in classes will definitely shake things up. Sectional alignments for 1A-5A will be very interesting. Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 12 hours ago, XStar said: Boone Grove, Calumet, Griffith, Hanover Central, Resselaer Central, River Forest, Twin Lakes, West Lafayette Clay, Fairfield, Jimtown, John Glenn, Knox, Lakeland, Marian, West Noble Bellmont, Concordia, Delta, Garrett, Heritage, Norwell, Woodlan, Yorktown Guerin Catholic, Hamilton Heights, Maconaquah, Northwestern, Oak Hill, Peru, Tippecanoe Valley, Western Boone Crawfordsville, Danville, Monrovia, North Montgomery, Owen Valley, Speedway, Tri-West, West Vigo Batesville, Centerville, Chatard, Franklin County, Greensburg, Indian Creek, Purdue Polytechnic, Rushville Charlestown, Corydon, Lawrenceburg, Madison, North Harrison, Salem, Scottsburg, South Dearborn Gibson Southern, Heritage Hills, Mt. Vernon, Pike Central, Princeton, Southridge, Vincennes Lincoln, Washington If Chatard's back in 3A, don't be surprised to see the resurgence of the Sectional of Death minus Brebeuf. That will put Guerin, Chatard, and honorary P/P, West Lafayette, in the same sectional again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, foxbat said: If Chatard's back in 3A, don't be surprised to see the resurgence of the Sectional of Death minus Brebeuf. That will put Guerin, Chatard, and honorary P/P, West Lafayette, in the same sectional again. I put a 99% chance on Brebeuf and Chatard being a straight switch - i.e. Brebeuf paired with Roncalli in 4A and Chatard with Guerin in 3A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man High Pants Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 18 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: You would think that….but for the last few years princeton and Vincennes have been in a sectional that made it possible to have a semi state game with Gibson Southern and other Evansville area schools IHSAA can't be that dumb twice right? (Heavy Sarcasm) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: I put a 99% chance on Brebeuf and Chatard being a straight switch - i.e. Brebeuf paired with Roncalli in 4A and Chatard with Guerin in 3A. No one, or I should say no one in Sectional 28, was surprised when Chatard ended up in 4A in Roncalli's sectional. No one from that sectional will be surprised to see Brebeuf end up in there with Roncalli either. And certainly seeing Chatard back with Guerin. The only thing that would somewhat surprise me, but wouldn't put it past the IHSAA, is finding a way to get LCC into Sectional 28 with Chatard, Guerin, West Lafayette. 😃 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue Pete Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 5:01 PM, Sledge said: Can someone explain Bishop Chatard being in 3A instead of 4A? After just one year in 4A? Yes please. Also looking for an answer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue Pete Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Happily surprised to see both Norwell and AC stay put in 3A and 1A. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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