Bears62 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Take with these with a grain of salt as it is pretty difficult to find information on teams in the off season. Any insight is appreciated 6A favorites: Cathedral Can win it all: Ben Davis, Carmel, CG, Westfield, Warren Central Longshots: HSE 5A favorites: Decatur Central, Merrillville Can win it all: Michigan City, Valpo, FW Dwenger, FW Snider Longshots: Harrison WL 4A favorites: Roncalli Can win it all: Mount Vernon, East Central, Evansville Memorial, Leo Longshots: Kokomo, Brebeuf, Northridge, New Pal, New Prairie, Lowell 3A favorites: Chatard Can win it all: West Lafayette, Mishawaka Marian, Lawrenceburg Longshots: Western Boone, Danville, Tri-West 2A favorites: Andrean Can win it all: Evansville Mater Dei, Eastside, Fort Wayne Luers, Eastbrook Longshots: LCC, Indy Scecina, Linton-Stockton 1A favorites: Adams Central, Indy Lutheran Can win it all: Pioneer, Park Tudor, Covenant Christian Longshots: North Judson, Churubusco, Parke Heritage Edited May 8, 2022 by Bears62 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Idk much about Lawrenceburg but I know they graduated some really crucial pieces Yoon was like a 4 year QB who did it all and then there was the all American LT/DE going to Notre dame im sure plenty of others too but those 2 alone were a major reason they have been doing so well the last few seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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temptation Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 6A co favorites: Cathedral/Center Grove Far too many people doubting the two time defending champs. Talent advantage: Cathedral Coaching Advantage: Center Grove Yeah, I said it… Edited May 8, 2022 by temptation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, temptation said: 6A co favorites: Cathedral/Center Grove Far too many people doubting the two time defending champs. Talent advantage: Cathedral Coaching Advantage: Center Grove Yeah, I said it… Center Grove = Reloading Machine as long as Eric Moore is at the helm. Passion equates to success. But sometimes a team can go through a trial period. Although the Trojans are 28-0 over the last two seasons, they lost 16 games in the three seasons prior to that. Edited May 8, 2022 by BTF Additional wording 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, BTF said: Center Grove = Reloading Machine as long as Eric Moore is at the helm. Passion equates to success. But sometimes a team can go through a trial period. Although the Trojans are 28-0 over the last two seasons, they lost 16 games in the three seasons prior to that. That 28-0 (along with other things) has also made them the most desirable transfer destination in the state. They won’t be on par with the past two seasons, but they’ll be right there at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Bears62 said: Take with these with a grain of salt as it is pretty difficult to find information on teams in the off season. Any insight is appreciated 6A favorites: Cathedral Can win it all: Ben Davis, Carmel, CG, Westfield, Warren Central Longshots: HSE 5A favorites: Decatur Central, Merrillville Can win it all: Michigan City, Valpo, FW Dwenger, FW Snider Longshots: Harrison WL 4A favorites: Roncalli Can win it all: Mount Vernon, East Central, Evansville Memorial, Leo Longshots: Kokomo, Brebeuf, Northridge, New Pal, New Prairie, Lowell 3A favorites: Chatard Can win it all: West Lafayette, Mishawaka Marian, Lawrenceburg Longshots: Western Boone, Danville, Tri-West 2A favorites: Andrean Can win it all: Evansville Mater Dei, Eastside, Fort Wayne Luers, Eastbrook Longshots: LCC, Indy Scecina, Linton-Stockton 1A favorites: Adams Central, Indy Lutheran Can win it all: Pioneer, Park Tudor, Covenant Christian Longshots: North Judson, Churubusco, Parke Heritage HSE will be the team to beat this year in the HCC. Westfield will be down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said: HSE will be the team to beat this year in the HCC. Westfield will be down a bit. Bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, temptation said: Bold. Outside looking in here. Why is that bold? If HSE is up or level from last year and Westfield is a bit down, couldn't there be some truth to Indiana Fan's statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, BTF said: Outside looking in here. Why is that bold? If HSE is up or level from last year and Westfield is a bit down, couldn't there be some truth to Indiana Fan's statement? Some truth, sure. But not with the high level of confidence he displayed. Westfield and Brownsburg aren’t going anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 hours ago, BTF said: Center Grove = Reloading Machine as long as Eric Moore is at the helm. Passion equates to success. But sometimes a team can go through a trial period. Although the Trojans are 28-0 over the last two seasons, they lost 16 games in the three seasons prior to that. Those three seasons included two trips to the final four and one state runner-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana Fan Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 hours ago, temptation said: Some truth, sure. But not with the high level of confidence he displayed. Westfield and Brownsburg aren’t going anywhere. I don’t think they are going anywhere. But I do think HSE will join them and be the top team this year in that conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 18 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Idk much about Lawrenceburg but I know they graduated some really crucial pieces Yoon was like a 4 year QB who did it all and then there was the all American LT/DE going to Notre dame im sure plenty of others too but those 2 alone were a major reason they have been doing so well the last few seasons I would put GS as an early favorite to come out of the South in 3A. Lost a some great players but have a lot of very good players returning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, Indiana Fan said: I don’t think they are going anywhere. But I do think HSE will join them and be the top team this year in that conference. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachVeatch Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 22 hours ago, Bears62 said: 1A favorites: Adams Central, Indy Lutheran Can win it all: Pioneer, Park Tudor, Covenant Christian Longshots: North Judson, Churubusco, Parke Heritage You are correct, Churubusco would be a longshot to win 1A beacuse they're in 2A now. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, tango said: I would put GS as an early favorite to come out of the South in 3A. Lost a some great players but have a lot of very good players returning. Maybe. Hopefully. I’m just interested to see how GS’s schedule plays out…and then how that translates to playoffs. it’s fair to assume 2022 Gibson Southern will not be nearly as good as last year….schedule is still tough with keeping New Albany and South Warren. Southridge too as technically an out of conference game. The only change is Terra Haute South week 1 instead of Columbus North. so getting through that will be interesting….and then you look at the sectional and it’s…well…more favorable than in previous years and without a doubt nobody is playing as tough of a schedule outside of maybe Vincennes in the SIAC gauntlet all year…..so we will see how that plays out. I think 8-1 is possible and i think 6-3 or even 5-4 is possible. There is just so much that is going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, CoachVeatch said: You are correct, Churubusco would be a longshot to win 1A beacuse they're in 2A now. This week. 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/7/2022 at 10:25 PM, Bears62 said: Take with these with a grain of salt as it is pretty difficult to find information on teams in the off season. Any insight is appreciated 6A favorites: Cathedral Can win it all: Ben Davis, Carmel, CG, Westfield, Warren Central Longshots: HSE 5A favorites: Decatur Central, Merrillville Can win it all: Michigan City, Valpo, FW Dwenger, FW Snider Longshots: Harrison WL 4A favorites: Roncalli Can win it all: Mount Vernon, East Central, Evansville Memorial, Leo Longshots: Kokomo, Brebeuf, Northridge, New Pal, New Prairie, Lowell 3A favorites: Chatard Can win it all: West Lafayette, Mishawaka Marian, Lawrenceburg Longshots: Western Boone, Danville, Tri-West 2A favorites: Andrean Can win it all: Evansville Mater Dei, Eastside, Fort Wayne Luers, Eastbrook Longshots: LCC, Indy Scecina, Linton-Stockton 1A favorites: Adams Central, Indy Lutheran Can win it all: Pioneer, Park Tudor, Covenant Christian Longshots: North Judson, Churubusco, Parke Heritage I have NJ as the favorite in their sectional. Pioneer should challenge them, but they've lost a ton of talent in the past few years. The X-factor is Pioneer coach Adam Berry. Can he do the same thing that previous coach Mike Johnson did and continue to reload, even in years when they lacked amazing athletes? Will he return to the bread and butter of the Wing-T, making sure that his team is a machine running a small but effective playbook? Or will he do something different and continue to succeed? Or was Pioneer's success in the Johnson days mostly due to the weaker MWC conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 In 6A probably a toss-up between Cathedral and Center Grove, or at least at this point? Irish QB Danny O'Neil crushed it in local workouts this spring, and as a result has been invited to camps at Alabama and Georgia in early June. He already took official visits to Notre Dame and Ohio State in April. This receiving mate Jaron Tibbs just received offer from Iowa last week with more to come. That duo could be ridiculously stupid this year especially with RB Carson Johnson returning and stud tight end @ 6'3" and 230 lbs with several D1 offers. While we did lose a lot on both lines, the explosive offense combinations might not make that matter too much this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 hours ago, AG said: I have NJ as the favorite in their sectional. Pioneer should challenge them, but they've lost a ton of talent in the past few years. The X-factor is Pioneer coach Adam Berry. Can he do the same thing that previous coach Mike Johnson did and continue to reload, even in years when they lacked amazing athletes? Will he return to the bread and butter of the Wing-T, making sure that his team is a machine running a small but effective playbook? Or will he do something different and continue to succeed? Or was Pioneer's success in the Johnson days mostly due to the weaker MWC conference? I could be wrong on this, but I think a lot of Pioneer's strength was independent of the MWC strength. There are certainly some conferences where the strength of the conference determines the strength of a particular team or teams from that conference, but I think there are some programs that regardless of the strength of the conference have done well and Pioneer is one of those. I've pointed out before, but if you look at the last decade and a half of football, LCC and Pioneer have been the predominant enders of each others seasons. In almost all of those meetings, even though they came early in post-season, they were the equivalent of semi-state or state matchups ... the exceptions were probably 2017 and 2018 where Pioneer just basically mauled LCC en route to LOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, foxbat said: I could be wrong on this, but I think a lot of Pioneer's strength was independent of the MWC strength. There are certainly some conferences where the strength of the conference determines the strength of a particular team or teams from that conference, but I think there are some programs that regardless of the strength of the conference have done well and Pioneer is one of those. I've pointed out before, but if you look at the last decade and a half of football, LCC and Pioneer have been the predominant enders of each others seasons. In almost all of those meetings, even though they came early in post-season, they were the equivalent of semi-state or state matchups ... the exceptions were probably 2017 and 2018 where Pioneer just basically mauled LCC en route to LOS. I agree with you actually. I brought it up because I've been told this before by non-Pioneer fans. The only seasons that I've questioned whether Pioneer was actually really good or not were the 2010-2012 seasons, in which Pioneer was smashed by LCC all three seasons after cruising through their MWC schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piratefan101 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 9:57 AM, temptation said: That 28-0 (along with other things) has also made them the most desirable transfer destination in the state. They won’t be on par with the past two seasons, but they’ll be right there at the end. I wouldn’t say most desirable because merrillville is getting. More every year. But they are both major hot beds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Piratefan101 said: I wouldn’t say most desirable because merrillville is getting. More every year. But they are both major hot beds Time to put up or shut up then. No excuse for them to not be at Lucas Oil annually now that they are 5A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_and_10 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, temptation said: Time to put up or shut up then. No excuse for them to not be at Lucas Oil annually now that they are 5A. We would never hear the end of it from Cody... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 9:33 AM, BTF said: Center Grove = Reloading Machine as long as Eric Moore is at the helm. Passion equates to success. But sometimes a team can go through a trial period. Although the Trojans are 28-0 over the last two seasons, they lost 16 games in the three seasons prior to that. that statement is a tad misleading. The season prior to the first undefeated season (2019), a very young CG team started the season off 1-4 playing a monster opening 4 games. They went all the way to the state championship game losing by 3 points to Carmel. 3 State finals in a row. 2018 Trojans go 9-4. Lose 3 of their first 5 games (who opens with tougher games than CG?) and advance to the semi-state losing by a TD in a close slobberknocker with Warren Central. The same WC team that went undefeated and beat Carmel by 3 TD's the following game in the state finals. Most teams would sell almost everything but their souls to have a "trial" period of going to a state final and semi-state. Tough grading curve for CG. Yes, they lost 10 games those 2 seasons....but were among the states best in 6A at the end of those seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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