Hammond Morton Vs Penn 2023 football season

[Govs2021]

Since Gary West side is leaving  the Great Lakes Conference for the Greater south shore Conference    in 2023 season , Hammond Moron and Penn will play in 2023 . 

[DE]

1 hour ago, Govs2021 said:

Since Gary West side is leaving  the Great Lakes Conference for the Greater south shore Conference    in 2023 season , Hammond Moron and Penn will play in 2023 . 

Will Cathedral still be on the schedule in 2023?

[temptation]

7 minutes ago, DE said:

Will Cathedral still be on the schedule in 2023?

God let’s hope not.  Those poor kids were sent to the slaughter last year and had a 6 hour round trip bus ride to boot.

[BTF]

17 hours ago, temptation said:

God let’s hope not.  Those poor kids were sent to the slaughter last year and had a 6 hour round trip bus ride to boot.

Really?

[BTF]

17 hours ago, temptation said:

God let’s hope not.  Those poor kids were sent to the slaughter last year and had a 6 hour round trip bus ride to boot.

Here's the way I look at it. Cathedral isn't going to have their "best year ever" every year and Penn isn't going to be "down" every year. I could be wrong. Maybe the new trend is that Cathedral is one of the best two teams in the state and that Penn will be lousy every year. I doubt that though. 

[Southside]

Hammond Morton and Penn are both on the Cathedral schedule in 2022.  They played them both in 2021 also.

[Piratefan101]

43 minutes ago, BTF said:

Here's the way I look at it. Cathedral isn't going to have their "best year ever" every year and Penn isn't going to be "down" every year. I could be wrong. Maybe the new trend is that Cathedral is one of the best two teams in the state and that Penn will be lousy every year. I doubt that though. 

I feel Penn is done for. They lost there pop Warner system most of those kids are being bussed to Mishawaka now

[temptation]

2 hours ago, BTF said:

Here's the way I look at it. Cathedral isn't going to have their "best year ever" every year and Penn isn't going to be "down" every year. I could be wrong. Maybe the new trend is that Cathedral is one of the best two teams in the state and that Penn will be lousy every year. I doubt that though. 

Why ride three hours on a bus to get your teeth kicked in?  Cathedral’s freshman team would have rolled Hammond Morton.

[BTF]

21 minutes ago, temptation said:

Why ride three hours on a bus to get your teeth kicked in?  Cathedral’s freshman team would have rolled Hammond Morton.

Lol, agree with Hammond Morton. I could make a case for Penn though. 

[temptation]

51 minutes ago, BTF said:

Lol, agree with Hammond Morton. I could make a case for Penn though. 

I thought Morton was who we were discussing.

The Penn game won’t be much prettier but at least the bus ride is half as long.

[ASJCPUMA]

I wonder if they are replacing Cincy St. X?

[DE]

On 2/17/2022 at 1:21 PM, Southside said:

Hammond Morton and Penn are both on the Cathedral schedule in 2022.  They played them both in 2021 also.

2023 too?

[johnny U]

Wow! Corey must be feeling the heat to schedule this game.  What a mis-match.

[BTF]

On 2/17/2022 at 2:26 PM, Piratefan101 said:

I feel Penn is done for. They lost there pop Warner system most of those kids are being bussed to Mishawaka now

Care to elaborate more? How do you "lose" a Pop Warner system?

[Goose Liver]

5 hours ago, BTF said:

Care to elaborate more? How do you "lose" a Pop Warner system?

The same way River Forest/Lake Station lost theirs.

[Bobref]

20 hours ago, Goose Liver said:

The same way River Forest/Lake Station lost theirs.

I would be willing to bet this is the first time in recorded history that Penn’s football program was mentioned in the same conversation with Lake Station and River Forest.

[DE]

59 minutes ago, Bobref said:

I would be willing to bet this is the first time in recorded history that Penn’s football program was mentioned in the same conversation with Lake Station and River Forest.

2nd.  Goose's was 1st.  😂

But does the Kingsmen play in the "********* Civil War"

[Bobref]

17 minutes ago, DE said:

But does the Kingsmen play in the "********* Civil War"

Worked that game several times. The traveling trophy was a replica of an old beater car up on blocks. 🤣😂

[Goose Liver]

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

Worked that game several times. The traveling trophy was a replica of an old beater car up on blocks. 🤣😂

The Battle of Deep River.

[waymobe]

On 2/17/2022 at 2:26 PM, Piratefan101 said:

I feel Penn is done for. They lost there pop Warner system most of those kids are being bussed to Mishawaka now

What are you talking about? The Granger Rocket Football League(https://rocketfootballandcheer.com/registration)  is one of the oldest and largest youth leagues in the state. They start registrations for next fall in a few weeks. They have done nothing but grow and expand since it started out for only the Penn School District students to currently taking kids from all over the Michiana area. NUMBERS of football players are not the problem at Penn.

BTW...Mishawaka does not even offer bus transportation for it's own students, let alone bus other kids in..LOL. It is one, if not the only school district in the state that doesnt provide transportation for it's students.

[DE]

20 minutes ago, waymobe said:

What are you talking about? The Granger Rocket Football League(https://rocketfootballandcheer.com/registration)  is one of the oldest and largest youth leagues in the state. They start registrations for next fall in a few weeks. They have done nothing but grow and expand since it started out for only the Penn School District students to currently taking kids from all over the Michiana area. NUMBERS of football players are not the problem at Penn.

BTW...Mishawaka does not even offer bus transportation for it's own students, let alone bus other kids in..LOL. It is one, if not the only school district in the state that doesnt provide transportation for it's students.

How do they get away with that (not providing busses)?

[temptation]

31 minutes ago, waymobe said:

What are you talking about? The Granger Rocket Football League(https://rocketfootballandcheer.com/registration)  is one of the oldest and largest youth leagues in the state. They start registrations for next fall in a few weeks. They have done nothing but grow and expand since it started out for only the Penn School District students to currently taking kids from all over the Michiana area. NUMBERS of football players are not the problem at Penn.

BTW...Mishawaka does not even offer bus transportation for it's own students, let alone bus other kids in..LOL. It is one, if not the only school district in the state that doesnt provide transportation for it's students.

So WHAT IS the problem at Penn?

[Grover]

And whatever happened to the Penn posters?  This forum used to have a couple who posted frequently.

[waymobe]

2 hours ago, temptation said:

So WHAT IS the problem at Penn?

Penn still has over 800 kid classes and plenty of Rocket football players pouring into the feeder schools. Their parents,fans,faculty & administration still live off of the state championship caliber teams that Geesman had annually from late 70s to his retirement in 2002. They still think that Penn is on that level sadly. Those teams always overperformed and outcoached more talented teams to win those championships. Dont get me wrong, they had a few D1 kids on some of those teams but it was a system and a belief of success in that system (The Penn Way)that the kids bought into. The kids just arent buying/believing(take your pick) into the coaching philosophy from the current coaching staff who mostly played here under Geesman. Penn has not won a state championship in 22 years. People on here think it will never happen again because the 6A suburban Indy schools now go north in the tourney but Penn always had to go through Carmel and Ben Davis at some point. Geesman finally realized he had to upgrade the schedule and went out of state and scheduled Ben Davis in reg season so they could see the speed of the game difference from NIC to late round playoff competition. It paid off with competive games and state championships. Yeoman has tried that schedule upgrade formula. Penn even has more openings now than that 1 game vs Ben Davis or St. Ignatius thanks to the split divisions in the NIC. This should help the program catch up again to the 6A elite but the program just hasnt reponded to it like it did in the mid 90s. That Penn mystique when they hit the field and dominate your opponent confidence is gone now. Losing to 3A and 4A teams will do that to a HS kid's confidence wondering "how do we compete against the Indy schools"? Penn haters are loving this era and rightfully so. A program facelift needed. Baby steps are needed. 1st,Dominate in the NIC again. 2nd,Beat Duneland schools again. 3rd, Be competetive against 6A. 4th and finally, maybe compete for state. That is a long road to travel with a coach who is 60 now. Time will tell if "The Gold Rush" and "Wild Bunch" are just old glory day memories of years gone by.....

[Guest]

1 hour ago, waymobe said:

Penn still has over 800 kid classes and plenty of Rocket football players pouring into the feeder schools. Their parents,fans,faculty & administration still live off of the state championship caliber teams that Geesman had annually from late 70s to his retirement in 2002. They still think that Penn is on that level sadly. Those teams always overperformed and outcoached more talented teams to win those championships. Dont get me wrong, they had a few D1 kids on some of those teams but it was a system and a belief of success in that system (The Penn Way)that the kids bought into. The kids just arent buying/believing(take your pick) into the coaching philosophy from the current coaching staff who mostly played here under Geesman. Penn has not won a state championship in 22 years. People on here think it will never happen again because the 6A suburban Indy schools now go north in the tourney but Penn always had to go through Carmel and Ben Davis at some point. Geesman finally realized he had to upgrade the schedule and went out of state and scheduled Ben Davis in reg season so they could see the speed of the game difference from NIC to late round playoff competition. It paid off with competive games and state championships. Yeoman has tried that schedule upgrade formula. Penn even has more openings now than that 1 game vs Ben Davis or St. Ignatius thanks to the split divisions in the NIC. This should help the program catch up again to the 6A elite but the program just hasnt reponded to it like it did in the mid 90s. That Penn mystique when they hit the field and dominate your opponent confidence is gone now. Losing to 3A and 4A teams will do that to a HS kid's confidence wondering "how do we compete against the Indy schools"? Penn haters are loving this era and rightfully so. A program facelift needed. Baby steps are needed. 1st,Dominate in the NIC again. 2nd,Beat Duneland schools again. 3rd, Be competetive against 6A. 4th and finally, maybe compete for state. That is a long road to travel with a coach who is 60 now. Time will tell if "The Gold Rush" and "Wild Bunch" are just old glory day memories of years gone by.....

High school football has changed over the past decade from when the team with the best "football players" won the championships.  Now, the team with the best "athletes" wins the championships.  Penn  does not have have great athletes.  Elkhart does.  And Elkhart will surpass Penn over the next 5 years.  Athletes are either born or they are made in the strength and conditioning room.  Many schools develop their own athletic talent through intense 7 on 7 type competition.  The game has passed this Penn coaching staff by in the rear view mirror.  Penn players rarely if ever show up in the Top 50 recruiting rankings in Indiana any more.  Hopefully Penn wont go thru the same bottoming out that Munster did when a coach stayed 10 years past his expiration date.