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Based on what I saw there is an inadvertent whistle at some point. I'm not sure when it was, but the first one I heard was after the K player caught the ball. The timing of the actual whistle is EXTREMELY critical in this play. There are 3 different scenarios here.

  1. The whistle happens after the kick but before the receiving team recovers it. There is no option here. The IW results in a replay of the down. K has another shot at a game tying field goal in an untimed down.
  2. The whistle happens after the recovery by the receiving team but before the backward pass is caught by the kicking team. Team R was last in possession so they have the option of taking the result of the play where they lost possession (spot of the backward pass) or replay the down. Their obvious choice would be to retain possession, but they would have to run one untimed down. They would take a knee and end the game.
  3. The whistle happens after the catch by the kicking team and before he scores. The option here is with the kicking team. They can either keep the ball at the spot where they had possession when the whistle blew or replay the down. If they take the spot at the time of the whistle it will be first down. Either way there will be an untimed down so they will likely still take whichever option gives them the shorter FG attempt. That looks to be the previous spot.

You also have either illegal substitution or participation by the receiving team. I"m guessing they didn't consider that when discussing the IW. Based on the video I would have illegal substitution since they didn't influence or participate in the play. It would be a succeeding spot penalty and add 5 yards to wherever the down is replayed.

Part of their conversation should be to determine the timing of the whistle. Unless they determined it happened after the receiving team possessed it and before the kicking team regained possession, the down should have been replayed 5 yards in advance of the previous snap. If scenario 2 happened there should have at least been one more snap by the receiving team to take a knee.

This is a very tough situation for the crew. You can study the rule book thoroughly, but until something actually happens to you on the field related to those rules it's not always easy to remember all the different nuances of various rules that all come into this play. It's really hard to get this right in the heat of the moment even with time to discuss it. They should have known they had to extend the game for a play regardless due to the IW. It should have been a discussion on who would snap it and where though. Tough situation for this crew. It can happen to the very best of crews.

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Think about the effect of the foul on the inadvertent whistle.

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5 minutes ago, bobref said:

Think about the effect of the foul on the inadvertent whistle.

Non player foul if you go with illegal sub so it doesn't affect the IW part of it. Illegal participation would have an impact on IW if accepted.

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3 minutes ago, BisonUmpire said:

Non player foul if you go with illegal sub so it doesn't affect the IW part of it. Illegal participation would have an impact on IW if accepted.

The rule does not mention non-player or unsportsmanlike fouls. It refers only to live ball fouls.. which this is, assuming it took place before the IW. 7-2-3d.

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53 minutes ago, bobref said:

The rule does not mention non-player or unsportsmanlike fouls. It refers only to live ball fouls.. which this is, assuming it took place before the IW. 7-2-3d.

Non-player coming on the field during the play that does not influence the play illegal sub succeeding spot?

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