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Big Ten Recruiting Rankings - Early Signing Update

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https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/Football

Reviewing the attached rankings upon close of early December signing period, the Big Ten recruiting results are clearly broken down into 4 distinct tiers, as follows:

Teams with average star rankings,  :

 

Tier 1 - Elite

Ohio State - 3.86 (Meyer just continues to reload)

Penn State - 3.73 (Franklin is a master recruiter)

 

Tier 2 - High Mid

Michigan - 3.32  (Meyer and Franklin are kicking Harbaugh's behind)

Nebraska - 3.31 (Very solid considering late coaching change)

Maryland - 3.22 (DJ Durkin is making a killing in recruit fertile DC area - program is on the rise)

Michigan State - 3.20 (Dantonio quietly continues to get the job done)

 

Tier 3 - Low Mid

Iowa - 3.18 (Solid effort by this staff, considering slim pickings in state)

Wisconsin - 3.05 (They get the most bang for their buck)

Minnesota - 3.04 (PJ Fleck keeping the Gophers competitive, with room to grow)

Northwestern - 3.0 (Chicago continues to produce home grown talent and Fitz is getting them)

 

Tier 4 - Bottom

Indiana - 2.79 (Looks like a typical IU class.  Can Allen coach them up?)

Rutgers - 2.78 (Ash still trying to win New Jersey, not there yet.)

Purdue - 2.63 (Not a strong result for Brohm, perhaps this held him back on other coaching opps.)

Illinois - 2.63 (Abysmal.  Lovie is not loving the recruiting game.)

 

Other observations :

* There are 19 5 Star recruits on the list.  Georgia (6) and Clemson (4) signed 10 of them.  WOW!.  Kirby and Dabo are tearing it up.

* Kirby Smart is in the process of moving the Georgia program past Alabama and into the top spot in the SEC.  He is much younger than Saban and apparently outworking his former mentor.

* Dave Doeren did a bang up job for NC State.  Doeren tried hard to get out of Raleigh but apparently this class kept him around a bit longer.

* Mark Stoops at Kentucky and Derek Mason at Vandy doing a nice job in a tough league.

* Who greats credit for the great 3.5 rating at Texas A&M?  Sumlin or Jimbo?

* Tom Herman cleaned house at Texas.  The Horns will be back on top of the Big 12 very soon.  

* Notre Dame and Miami running neck and neck .  Catholics vs Convicts both on and off the field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think people get way too caught up in the star ranking system. Going back a couple years when the Seahawks met the Patriots in the Super Bowl; looking at the rosters of the two teams, there was not a single player who was a 5 star recruit. 

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1 minute ago, Irishman said:

I think people get way too caught up in the star ranking system. Going back a couple years when the Seahawks met the Patriots in the Super Bowl; looking at the rosters of the two teams, there was not a single player who was a 5 star recruit. 

I disagree completely

If you look at the 4 Tier breakdown of Big Ten recruiting results, it mirrors each schools relative strength and position in the league, with a few outliers (Wisconsin and a rising Maryland)

At the college level, on field results and recruiting results go hand in hand, with very few exceptions.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DrivenT said:

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/Football

Reviewing the attached rankings upon close of early December signing period, the Big Ten recruiting results are clearly broken down into 4 distinct tiers, as follows:

Teams with average star rankings,  :

 

Tier 1 - Elite

Ohio State - 3.86 (Meyer just continues to reload)

Penn State - 3.73 (Franklin is a master recruiter)

 

Tier 2 - High Mid

Michigan - 3.32  (Meyer and Franklin are kicking Harbaugh's behind)

Nebraska - 3.31 (Very solid considering late coaching change)

Maryland - 3.22 (DJ Durkin is making a killing in recruit fertile DC area - program is on the rise)

Michigan State - 3.20 (Dantonio quietly continues to get the job done)

 

Tier 3 - Low Mid

Iowa - 3.18 (Solid effort by this staff, considering slim pickings in state)

Wisconsin - 3.05 (They get the most bang for their buck)

Minnesota - 3.04 (PJ Fleck keeping the Gophers competitive, with room to grow)

Northwestern - 3.0 (Chicago continues to produce home grown talent and Fitz is getting them)

 

Tier 4 - Bottom

Indiana - 2.79 (Looks like a typical IU class.  Can Allen coach them up?)

Rutgers - 2.78 (Ash still trying to win New Jersey, not there yet.)

Purdue - 2.63 (Not a strong result for Brohm, perhaps this held him back on other coaching opps.)

Illinois - 2.63 (Abysmal.  Lovie is not loving the recruiting game.)

 

Other observations :

* There are 19 5 Star recruits on the list.  Georgia (6) and Clemson (4) signed 10 of them.  WOW!.  Kirby and Dabo are tearing it up.

* Kirby Smart is in the process of moving the Georgia program past Alabama and into the top spot in the SEC.  He is much younger than Saban and apparently outworking his former mentor.

* Dave Doeren did a bang up job for NC State.  Doeren tried hard to get out of Raleigh but apparently this class kept him around a bit longer.

* Mark Stoops at Kentucky and Derek Mason at Vandy doing a nice job in a tough league.

* Who greats credit for the great 3.5 rating at Texas A&M?  Sumlin or Jimbo?

* Tom Herman cleaned house at Texas.  The Horns will be back on top of the Big 12 very soon.  

* Notre Dame and Miami running neck and neck .  Catholics vs Convicts both on and off the field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A typical IU class? Indiana has the 32nd best recruiting class in the country. When has that ever happened before. Wilson never broke 40.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/Football

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12 minutes ago, Irishman said:

I think people get way too caught up in the star ranking system. Going back a couple years when the Seahawks met the Patriots in the Super Bowl; looking at the rosters of the two teams, there was not a single player who was a 5 star recruit. 

I think that over the years, with the rise of social media usage, these ratings have become more refined and more accurate. But by no means iron clad guarantee, stars equal performance on field. And development is the equalizer, over 3 years, in this star rating system. 

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6 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

A typical IU class? Indiana has the 32nd best recruiting class in the country. When has that ever happened before. Wilson never broke 40.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/Football

As I mentioned to you previously, the class is ranked high due to quantity of commits, not quality.  This is still early in the process and IU has nearly a full class.  Look at the individual ratings and that will give you a better indication of the quality of the class.  IU will finish in the bottom 4 of the BIG based on their 2.79 rating 

2 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

As I mentioned to you previously, the class is ranked high due to quantity of commits, not quality.  This is still early in the process and IU has nearly a full class.  Look at the individual ratings and that will give you a better indication of the quality of the class.  IU will finish in the bottom 4 of the BIG based on their 2.79 rating 

https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-Ten

IUs 2018 class looks a lot like its 2017 class 

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15 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

As I mentioned to you previously, the class is ranked high due to quantity of commits, not quality.  This is still early in the process and IU has nearly a full class.  Look at the individual ratings and that will give you a better indication of the quality of the class.  IU will finish in the bottom 4 of the BIG based on their 2.79 rating 

Harsh reality of playing in the B10 East.

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Its brutal.  IU should petition Jim Delaney and the BT leadership for a conference realignment to better balance the divisions into a North-South setup, as below :

Big Ten North

Michigan/Michigan State/Wisconsin/MInnesota/Northwestern/Iowa/Nebraska

 

Big Ten South

Maryland/Rutgers/Penn State/Ohio State/ Indiana/Purdue/Illinois

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1 hour ago, DrivenT said:

Its brutal.  IU should petition Jim Delaney and the BT leadership for a conference realignment to better balance the divisions into a North-South setup, as below :

Big Ten North

Michigan/Michigan State/Wisconsin/MInnesota/Northwestern/Iowa/Nebraska

 

Big Ten South

Maryland/Rutgers/Penn State/Ohio State/ Indiana/Purdue/Illinois

I like that and 1 protected cross game a year

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2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I like that and 1 protected cross game a year

Protected crossovers :

IU - MSU

OSU-UM

Ill - NW

PSU - NEB

RUT - MN

Mary - WISC

PUR - IOWA

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IU getting 4 star QB was big get

 

PU getting the 4 star WR in January will be a significant bump as well.   

PU already locked up next year big time 4 star (could go up) in local kid Karlafits,   working hard on KIser as well, another 4 star kid.   Brohm has continued to say he want to recruit Indiana kids and 4 hours around Indiana.  

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