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IU-Purdue Recruiting Deadlock

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43 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Not sure what his last few choices were, but Justin Britt from WC committed to Iowa.

I have a bad feeling that IU is just getting murdered on the recruiting trail.

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That was a big fish to catch. I am just sad he did not stay in state. But historically, the top recruits rarely do.

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Iowa and Wisconsin are huge OL destinations for Midwestern OL     Rightfully So!!     Produce many many NFL players over the years.  

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17 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Iowa and Wisconsin are huge OL destinations for Midwestern OL     Rightfully So!!     Produce many many NFL players over the years.  

https://iowa.rivals.com/commitments/football/2018

https://iowa.rivals.com/commitments/football/2019

https://hawkeyesports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1687&path=football

 

Iowa has taken 4 kids out of Indiana over the past two recruiting cycles.  They are clearly targeting Indianapolis.  Kelvin Bell is the man making it happen

 

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https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-how-huge-can-the-hinton-brothers-be-for-michigan-

 

Very cool story about the two 5 star sons of former Indy Colt tackle Chris Hinton.  Both may wind up at Michigan via  a private school in Georgia.  

Can you imagine these two kids growing up and battling each other in the backyards and on the practice field?  

The Hinton family is likely lining up for two very big NFL first round contracts in the coming years.  

5 hours ago, Trojan Dad said:

I'm not buying the propaganda.  In my view, IU is treading water, while the other schools in their orbit (Maryland, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers) are improving rapidly.  When its all over and done with, IUs class will look the same as it always does.  The "only" sure fire way to move up in the league is to secure more 4 star talent.  Note Purdue's results on the attached recap.  Brohm is getting both quality and quantity.  He is also doing a number on Kentucky and Louisville recruiting due to his ties to the state.  

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/big10/football

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Being a Cubs fan, I get the high level of skepticism. That said, their ranking nationally should be a simple formula, which I think would add some legitimacy to the level of talent coming in.

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speaking of heritage of sons of dudes as DT posted that nice article

We were at Team camp at Manchester last week going up against S.B. St. Joe.    We have munchins all over the field for the Bombers, especially compared to the OL at St. Joe,.  Their LT is a DUDE man, 6'4 260 pounds and he locks up with our newly minted LG/DE who as a soph was playing JV running back for me.    Our kid learned a hard lesson of giving up his chest so easily and that LT took him 7 yards down the field and firmly planted him straight to the ground.    It was fun to watch, granted it was our own kid, but the technique was unbelievably flawless

Welp:  Turns out:  His dad, well he is pretty decent at his day job.......

https://247sports.com/nfl/chicago-bears/Article/Harry-Hiestand-explains-why-he-left-the-Irish-to-coach-the-Bears-118489997/

His son, Mark will be playing at Air Force next year.    

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Purdue has amassed a very good class.  Very few Indiana kids, though...

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31 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

can't get em all.    

Probably won't be long before PU announces a stadium expansion to include a deck and 20000 new seats.  :07_v:

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43 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

Probably won't be long before PU announces a stadium expansion to include a deck and 20000 new seats.  :07_v:

Lifetime Boiler fan here--I just don't see it.

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19 hours ago, DrivenT said:

I'm not buying the propaganda.  In my view, IU is treading water, while the other schools in their orbit (Maryland, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers) are improving rapidly.  When its all over and done with, IUs class will look the same as it always does.  The "only" sure fire way to move up in the league is to secure more 4 star talent.  Note Purdue's results on the attached recap.  Brohm is getting both quality and quantity.  He is also doing a number on Kentucky and Louisville recruiting due to his ties to the state.  

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/big10/football

Perhaps its more how good the Big 10 is getting at recruiting.  IU was ranked 48th last year, but 10th overall in the conference.  I don't know IU's history, but 48th in the nation recruiting doesn't seem horrible for them.  

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2018-Football/Commits

43rd this year...but 11th in the Big 10.....

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2019-Football/Commits

I get your point....not great in their conference, but better than some pretty dang good programs....although its not over yet.  But I don't disagree that IU needs to improve in its own conference or the road will be a tough one...especially in the Big 10 East.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

 

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4 minutes ago, Trojan Dad said:

Perhaps its more how good the Big 10 is getting at recruiting.  IU was ranked 48th last year, but 10th overall in the conference.  I don't know IU's history, but 48th in the nation recruiting doesn't seem horrible for them.  

There are  five Power 5 Conferences with a total of 66 schools 

Big Ten - 14

ACC - 14

SEC - 14

Pac 12 - 12

Big 12 - 10 

So IU is ranked 48 out of 66.  

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2018-Football/Commits

43rd this year...but 11th in the Big 10.....

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2019-Football/Commits

I get your point....not great in their conference, but better than some pretty dang good programs....although its not over yet.  But I don't disagree that IU needs to improve in its own conference or the road will be a tough one...especially in the Big 10 East.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

 

 

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Per 247sports, Purdue DE commit George Karlaftis has been upgraded to a 5* recruit. He is now the #9 overall recruit in the country and #1 DE per 247.

Also, Purdue TE commit Kyle Bilodeau has been upgraded to a 4* recruit per 247sports and is now their #11 TE.

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Nice.  This could be the start of something big on Northwestern Avenue...

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On 7/12/2018 at 4:27 PM, Andy G said:

Per 247sports, Purdue DE commit George Karlaftis has been upgraded to a 5* recruit. He is now the #9 overall recruit in the country and #1 DE per 247.

Also, Purdue TE commit Kyle Bilodeau has been upgraded to a 4* recruit per 247sports and is now their #11 TE.

WOW!!  5 Star.  Incredibly impressive.  When do they start selling tickets for the opener with Jeff?  

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9 hours ago, Trojan Dad said:

Hasn't David Bell (WR Warren Central) narrowed down his 5 choices to include Indiana and Purdue?  Would be great to keep him in state.  Incredible athlete.

247 has him 78% leaning toward Purdue over Ohio State.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/David-Bell-89097/RecruitInterests/

 

Yeah. Bell would also be a HUGE get for Purdue. They'll have a chance at a top 25 class.

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David Bell 

JJ Weaver 

Milton Wright 

Rondale Robinson 

All 4 star guys and I believe all have made final cut down.   

It is something these days seeing these top 5 schools and seeing Purdue along side Alabama, OSU, et. al.   

Lots a ways to go to early signing day in December.   Purdue message from Brohm and Co. has been keeping the momentum from last year moving forward this year.  Tough task with a great schedule but it will be fun to watch.  

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Brohm is a legit coach who is recruiting at a level Purdue hasn’t seen, but it won’t be sustainable. Brohm will be gone from West Lafayette in the next 2 years for greener pastures and Purdue will return to the bottom tier of the conference.

Allen is in s tough spot in Bloomington. He has a lot of enthusiasm for the job, but he has to overcome the ineptitude of a long time of losing. It starts with getting kids to stay in state instead of bolting and they have to start winning those close games they somehow keep losing. 

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9 hours ago, komets3001 said:

Brohm is a legit coach who is recruiting at a level Purdue hasn’t seen, but it won’t be sustainable. Brohm will be gone from West Lafayette in the next 2 years for greener pastures and Purdue will return to the bottom tier of the conference.

Allen is in s tough spot in Bloomington. He has a lot of enthusiasm for the job, but he has to overcome the ineptitude of a long time of losing. It starts with getting kids to stay in state instead of bolting and they have to start winning those close games they somehow keep losing. 

Brohm has a professional mentality and outlook.  His next stop will be the NFL.  

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I believe I saw a publication a few weeks ago that had Brohm HC of Denver in 2021 or 2020.   

Wouldn't it be something if he was still at Purdue in 4 years and risen to the level of Tiller's Heyday.   

One can hope

off to a tremendous start thus far going into year 2

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