temptation Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Gonna try to make this a weekly deal. Not sure if I’ve overlooked a GID poll but if so, I apologize. Critique away! Cathedral Center Grove Brownsburg Warren Central Carmel Ben Davis New Palestine Hamilton Southeastern Westfield Fishers Decatur Central Merrillville Mooresville Lawrence North Roncalli Lawrence Central Bishop Chatard Penn Fort Wayne Snider East Central Andrean Zionsville Fort Wayne Dwenger Franklin Central Carroll (Fort Wayne) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Looks good Temp. Fort Wayne is looking like a crapshoot this year with Snider, Carroll, Dwenger, Homestead, and North Side. A big shout out to North Side for the crowd they brought Friday night. One of the bigger visiting crowds I've seen in recent memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, BTF said: Looks good Temp. Fort Wayne is looking like a crapshoot this year with Snider, Carroll, Dwenger, Homestead, and North Side. A big shout out to North Side for the crowd they brought Friday night. One of the bigger visiting crowds I've seen in recent memory. The Carroll score caused me to do a double take…not that they won but the margin by which they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, temptation said: Gonna try to make this a weekly deal. Not sure if I’ve overlooked a GID poll but if so, I apologize. Critique away! Cathedral Center Grove Brownsburg Warren Central Carmel Ben Davis New Palestine Hamilton Southeastern Westfield Fishers Decatur Central Merrillville Mooresville Lawrence North Roncalli Lawrence Central Bishop Chatard Penn Fort Wayne Snider East Central Andrean Zionsville Fort Wayne Dwenger Franklin Central Carroll (Fort Wayne) Looks pretty good to me. Although I might want to push Mater Dei onto this list. i think if you have the #1 2A team you probably should have the #2…same with 3A and West Lafayette 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, DumfriesYMCA said: Looks pretty good to me. Although I might want to push Mater Dei onto this list. i think if you have the #1 2A team you probably should have the #2…same with 3A and West Lafayette Got both on my HM…WL at 32 and Mater Dei at 41. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Kokomo Wildkats beat a ranked team handily last night. They deserve a spot IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Central Warrior Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Warren Central shouldn't be ranked 4th. The Warriors have lost 5 straight to Center Grove. Just my 2 cents Edited August 20, 2022 by Warren Central Warrior 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Kokomo Wildkats beat a ranked team handily last night. They deserve a spot IMHO. Got em HM…#47. 10 minutes ago, Warren Central Warrior said: Warren Central shouldn't be ranked 4th. The Warriors have lost 5 straight to Center Grove. Just my 2 cents The 5 straight has nothing to do with 2022. Warren was not built on moral victories but a 9 point loss on the road to CG is nothing to be ashamed of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFB_JG Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Warren Central Warrior said: Warren Central shouldn't be ranked 4th. The Warriors have lost 5 straight to Center Grove. Just my 2 cents I would disagree. Warren is capable of an 8-1 regular season. CG is winners of 29 straight, meaning someone has to be #2 regardless of how many straight they’ve lost. #4 is reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Central Warrior Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) I see. I need to get off my high horse then. Or get my head out of the gutter Edited August 20, 2022 by Warren Central Warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, temptation said: The Carroll score caused me to do a double take…not that they won but the margin by which they won. I think everyone expected both programs to take a step back this season. I think the big difference was a couple of key transfers coming into Carroll and a couple going out of Luers. But yeah, the margin of defeat was surprising. By seasons end, I think a Fort Wayne team will qualify for Top 15. I'm just not sure who at this point. Lots of answers in Week 2. Snider takes on Carroll, North Side gets Dwenger, and Homestead squares off with Concordia. I like where you have Penn and Merrillville, a little uncertain about Westfield though. Keep this poll going. You seem to give an unbiased and honest opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFB_JG Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 9:16 AM, temptation said: Gonna try to make this a weekly deal. Not sure if I’ve overlooked a GID poll but if so, I apologize. Critique away! Cathedral Center Grove Brownsburg Warren Central Carmel Ben Davis New Palestine Hamilton Southeastern Westfield Fishers Decatur Central Merrillville Mooresville Lawrence North Roncalli Lawrence Central Bishop Chatard Penn Fort Wayne Snider East Central Andrean Zionsville Fort Wayne Dwenger Franklin Central Carroll (Fort Wayne) I really have no problem with this list, maybe except for Westfield who I expected to experience some growing pains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psaboy Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 One team to keep on your radar in upstate Indiana is Eastside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, HoosierFB_JG said: I really have no problem with this list, maybe except for Westfield who I expected to experience some growing pains. Westfield too high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFB_JG Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 7 hours ago, temptation said: Westfield too high? Personal opinion, yes. Interesting with New Pal and Decatur, because if Decatur wins, they should be above Westfield, but if NP wins in a rout, is NP too low? Interesting grouping of 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears62 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 IMO Mooresville is too high.. I would still take Indy teams like LC, Zionsville, Pike, Chatard, Roncalli to beat them. Otherwise I think the list is great. Would also probably have schools like Merrillville and LC above Decatur Central but I think those would be closer games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 10:02 AM, temptation said: The Carroll score caused me to do a double take…not that they won but the margin by which they won. Please, temper this comment with a "FW area caveat".... Carroll is NO JOKE! Bishop Luers shouldn't be looked at as a team 39 points less than the Chargers. Bishop Luers just didn't have the numbers to compete with a 6A top ten team. But in everyway they are well in tune with competing well in 2A FB as the season progresses. As for Carroll. This may be THE team that can compete well into the Semi-State from the FW Area in 6A that those in NE Indiana have been waiting for. They looked solid on both sides of the ball as well as on special teams. Coach Dinan has tapped into something that has been lacking at CHS in the past few years.....a HUNGER. CHS also benefits from the shuffle in the 6A brackets allowing them to avoid the local rivalry 'trap game' that seems to doom them (or Homestead/Snider) a lot. With Snider down in 5A that also benefits them....and that 5A bracket is loaded also with Snider/North Side/Dwenger all waiting to cannibalize one another come playoff time. Let's talk next Saturday morning after the Snider/Carroll tilt. There is ALL SORTS of underlying animosity involved every time they meet. This should go a long way to defining FB in the SAC this season. But there are also a number of others in the SAC that will have impacts.... great year for the quality of FB in FW as far as I am concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Please, temper this comment with a "FW area caveat".... Carroll is NO JOKE! Bishop Luers shouldn't be looked at as a team 39 points less than the Chargers. Bishop Luers just didn't have the numbers to compete with a 6A top ten team. But in everyway they are well in tune with competing well in 2A FB as the season progresses. As for Carroll. This may be THE team that can compete well into the Semi-State from the FW Area in 6A that those in NE Indiana have been waiting for. They looked solid on both sides of the ball as well as on special teams. Coach Dinan has tapped into something that has been lacking at CHS in the past few years.....a HUNGER. CHS also benefits from the shuffle in the 6A brackets allowing them to avoid the local rivalry 'trap game' that seems to doom them (or Homestead/Snider) a lot. With Snider down in 5A that also benefits them....and that 5A bracket is loaded also with Snider/North Side/Dwenger all waiting to cannibalize one another come playoff time. Let's talk next Saturday morning after the Snider/Carroll tilt. There is ALL SORTS of underlying animosity involved every time they meet. This should go a long way to defining FB in the SAC this season. But there are also a number of others in the SAC that will have impacts.... great year for the quality of FB in FW as far as I am concerned. I was expecting a rebuilding year from Carroll this year. But with 2500 students, should a reloading year be expected annually instead? Tapping into the transfer portal I think was an important piece to Carroll's 2022 puzzle. I'm not ready to anoint them as a Top 10 team after beating up on a 2a team devastated by graduation and transfers, but I'm not saying you're wrong either. Friday night will answer some questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Please, temper this comment with a "FW area caveat".... Carroll is NO JOKE! Bishop Luers shouldn't be looked at as a team 39 points less than the Chargers. Bishop Luers just didn't have the numbers to compete with a 6A top ten team. But in everyway they are well in tune with competing well in 2A FB as the season progresses. As for Carroll. This may be THE team that can compete well into the Semi-State from the FW Area in 6A that those in NE Indiana have been waiting for. They looked solid on both sides of the ball as well as on special teams. Coach Dinan has tapped into something that has been lacking at CHS in the past few years.....a HUNGER. CHS also benefits from the shuffle in the 6A brackets allowing them to avoid the local rivalry 'trap game' that seems to doom them (or Homestead/Snider) a lot. With Snider down in 5A that also benefits them....and that 5A bracket is loaded also with Snider/North Side/Dwenger all waiting to cannibalize one another come playoff time. Let's talk next Saturday morning after the Snider/Carroll tilt. There is ALL SORTS of underlying animosity involved every time they meet. This should go a long way to defining FB in the SAC this season. But there are also a number of others in the SAC that will have impacts.... great year for the quality of FB in FW as far as I am concerned. Don’t do this to me, PLEASE. @BTF…stop this man. Edited August 22, 2022 by temptation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, temptation said: Don’t do this to me, PLEASE. @BTF…stop this man. Like, I said at the start @temptation.... the caveat is "FW Area" FB and that which is always said in this area.... "We DID this, We DID that..." It seems to not be in the present, lately. Do that NOW! @BTF"I'm not ready to anoint them as a Top 10 team after beating up on a 2a team devastated by graduation and transfers, but I'm not saying you're wrong either. Friday night will answer some questions." I'll take that, but with the lack of 6A teams...I am positive that they (CHS) are a TOP TEN team in that classification, easily. Friday night WILL answer a lot of questions! But it also may create a lot more if it is as close as most of think it will be. The 2022 IHSAA playoffs, and the regular season schedule changes next year with no longer having a closed conference; Will go a long way to answering a lot of the questions/concerns as to what the teams in FW are really all about. You cannot keep playing a particular style and schedule that is absent of a flavor outside of the SAC and then expect success once the playoffs begin. I give the SAC 2 years and they will then see that there is a difference in things outside of the FW Area dictating a significant upgrade in every facet of FB play and focus in order to make it back to LOS on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Yuccaguy said: Like, I said at the start @temptation.... the caveat is "FW Area" FB and that which is always said in this area.... "We DID this, We DID that..." It seems to not be in the present, lately. Do that NOW! @BTF"I'm not ready to anoint them as a Top 10 team after beating up on a 2a team devastated by graduation and transfers, but I'm not saying you're wrong either. Friday night will answer some questions." I'll take that, but with the lack of 6A teams...I am positive that they (CHS) are a TOP TEN team in that classification, easily. Friday night WILL answer a lot of questions! But it also may create a lot more if it is as close as most of think it will be. The 2022 IHSAA playoffs, and the regular season schedule changes next year with no longer having a closed conference; Will go a long way to answering a lot of the questions/concerns as to what the teams in FW are really all about. You cannot keep playing a particular style and schedule that is absent of a flavor outside of the SAC and then expect success once the playoffs begin. I give the SAC 2 years and they will then see that there is a difference in things outside of the FW Area dictating a significant upgrade in every facet of FB play and focus in order to make it back to LOS on a regular basis. I want this to be true so badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, temptation said: I want this to be true so badly. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bobref said: Why? So desperate for new/non central Indy blood in 6A. It’d be great for the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, Bobref said: Why? Goes without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 23 hours ago, psaboy said: One team to keep on your radar in upstate Indiana is Eastside. If Woodlan puts up 24, I don't count on Eastside. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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