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#1 Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (2-0)        24         #6 Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (1-1)             21

#2 Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy (1-0)         20      #52 East St. Louis (IL) (0-1)                 13

#3 Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (1-0)          52        #48 Allen (TX) (0-1)              14

#12 Miami (FL) Central (1-0)         20        #4 Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (0-1)            14

#5 Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (1-0)            48         #27 Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (0-1)         37     

#7 Corona Centennial (2-0)         42        San Diego Cathedral Catholic (1-1)                7

#10 Hollywood Chaminade-Madonna (1-0)               35         #9 Washington (DC) St. Johns (0-1)         28        

#11 Buford (GA) (2-0)               56          Charlotte (NC) Mallard Creek (1-1)           7        

#13 Houston (TX) North Shore (1-0)            49           The Woodlands (TX) (0-1)            21       

#15 Duncanville (TX) (1-0)        23      #51 Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (0-1)              10

#16 Austin (TX) Westlake (1-0)            44         Missouri City (TX) Ridge Point (0-1)        14      

#17 Plantation (FL) American Heritage (2-0)           56          #53 Los Alamitos (CA) (1-1)               27

#18 Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (1-0)           49          Raleigh (NC) Cardinal Gibbons (0-2)             14

#19 Denton (TX) Guyer (1-0)            47           Rockwall (TX) Rockwall-Heath (0-1)         14        

#20 Tampa (FL) Jesuit (1-0)           24         Tampa (FL) Wharton (0-1)           13

#21 Lakewood (NJ) St. Edward (2-0)           42        Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (0-1)         10        

#22 Loganville (GA) Grayson (2-0)              44          McDonough (GA) Eagle’s Landing (0-2)           14        

#23 Nashville (TN) Lipscomb Academy (2-0)          24         #47 Alabaster Thompson (0-2)             14

#24 Lakeland (FL) (1-0)        42         Clearwater (FL) (0-1)          6

#33 Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (1-0)               11          #25 Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (0-1)         6     

#26 Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (2-0)           49          Norcross (GA) (0-2)             17

#28 Katy (TX) (1-0)           49        League City (TX) Clear Springs (0-1)            16

#29 Miami (FL) Northwestern (1-0)          32         #42 Venice (FL) (0-1)              26

#30 Phenix City (AL) Central (2-0)           38          Smiths (AL) Smiths Station (0-2)              0

#31 Southlake (TX) Carroll (1-0)                66         El Paso (TX) Eastwood (0-1)             14      

#32 Mission Viejo (CA) (2-0)                 42           Anaheim (CA) Servite (0-2)             23       

#34 Fairburn (GA) Langston Hughes (2-0)              47            Power Springs (GA) McEachern (0-2)              21

Brownsburg (IN) (2-0)               42         #36 Indianapolis (IN) Cathedral (1-1)            35       

#38 Concord (CA) De LaSalle (1-0)          36            Elk Grove (CA) Monterey Trail (0-2)               20

#62 Marietta (GA) Walton (1-1)             34            #40 Snellville (GA) Brookwood (1-1)                   20

#41 DeSoto (TX) (1-0)                  35          New Orleans (LA) St. Augustine (0-1)              10         

New Braunfels (TX) (1-0)               34         #43 Denton (TX) Ryan (0-1)         33       

#73 San Mateo (CA) Serra (1-0)          17         #44 Folsom (CA) (1-1)              12

Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central (1-1)                44       #45 Detroit (MI) M.L. King (0-1)           26         

#46 Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (1-0)              42         Montvale (NJ) St. Joseph Regional (0-1)          21      

#50 Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (2-0)               56           Madison (MS) Madison-Ridgeland Academy (2-1)          33       

#54 Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (1-0)            35         Arvada (CO) Ralston Valley (0-1)              21

#56 St. Louis (MO) Christian Brothers (1-0)            41            #66 Milton (GA) (0-2)          27   

#57 Rancho Santa Margarita Santa Margarita (2-0)               36           Norco (0-1)            14     

#88 Arlington (TX) Martin (1-0)                 39            #58 Austin (TX) Lake Travis (0-1)             31       

#60 Tampa (FL) Bay Tech (1-0)            28         Tampa (FL) Plant (0-1)                21

#61 Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (2-0)                 28             Louisville (KY) Trinity (1-1)           3          

#63 Long Beach Poly (2-0)                17            Gardena Serra (0-2)             13       

#67 Miami (FL) Columbus (1-0)                41           Savannah (GA) Benedictine (1-1)              15         

#68 Bixby (OK) (1-0)            49         Owasso (OK) (0-1)              14

#69 Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (2-0)               29          Stockbridge (GA) (1-1)             0     

#70 Chesapeake Bay (VA) Oscar Smith (1-0)                 47             Chesapeake (VA) Deep Creek (0-1)            15     

#71 Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (2-0)                  31              Carmel (IN) (0-2)              27         

#72 Orlando (FL) Edgewater (1-0)            22         Orlando (FL) Bishop Moore (0-1)             7

#74 Humble (TX) Atascocita (1-0)                37            Dickinson (TX) (0-1)            0        

#75 Belleville (MI) (1-0)          41           Novi (MI) (0-1)              10

#76 West Chester (OH) Lakota West (2-0)             49         Liberty Township (OH) Lakota East (0-2)                  6

#78 Madison (MS) Central (1-0)             50          Laurel (MS) West Jones (0-1)                 12

#79 Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate (1-0)              41        Detroit (MI) Renaissance (0-1)             13

Highland Springs (VA) (1-0)            26         #80 Charlotte (NC) Chambers (1-1)                20

#82 Katy (TX) Paetow (1-0)            14           Conroe (TX) (0-1)              3

Lucas (TX) Lovejoy (1-0)            52       #84 College Station (TX) (0-1)           27

Louisville (KY) Ballard (2-0)             12         #85 Louisville Male (1-1)               7

#87 Bryant (AR) (1-0)            38          Benton (AR) (0-1)               17

#90 Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (2-0)              42          Hueytown (AL) (0-2)              8

#91 Atlanta (GA) Westlake (1-1)                   47            Cordele (GA) Crisp County (1-1)          7       

#92 Orlando (FL) Jones (1-0)           29            Cocoa (FL) (0-1)          19

#93 La Puente (CA) Bishop Amat (2-0)              42           La Habra (CA) (0-2)              7

#94 Longview (TX) (1-0)             36           McKinney (TX) Boyd (0-1)               10

#95 Pensacola (FL) Pine Forest (1-0)              34        Cantonment (FL) Tate (0-1)             0        

Monroeville (PA) Gateway (1-0)               21        #96 Pittsburgh (PA) Mt. Lebanon (0-1)         6       

#97 Columbus (OH) Upper Arlington (2-0)               37         Toledo (OH) St. Francis de Sales (0-2)           0

#98 Cornelius (NC) Hough (1-1)            34       Mooresville (NC) (1-1)              6

#99 Roebuck (SC) Dorman (2-0)             42        North Augusta (SC) (0-2)                  28         

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5 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

#3 Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (1-0)          52        #48 Allen (TX) (0-1)              14

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This is why I'm always skeptical of where Indiana teams stack up nationally whenever they appear in some of these national rankings list. I bet if you did a week by week list like this, you would find that most of these teams in the top 100 are playing against top 100 competition (or close to it) week after week, whereas a team from Indiana ranked in the top 100 is only playing 1-2, maybe 3 teams who come close to sniffing the top 100. 

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17 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

This is why I'm always skeptical of where Indiana teams stack up nationally whenever they appear in some of these national rankings list. I bet if you did a week by week list like this, you would find that most of these teams in the top 100 are playing against top 100 competition (or close to it) week after week, whereas a team from Indiana ranked in the top 100 is only playing 1-2, maybe 3 teams who come close to sniffing the top 100. 

I do complete a Top 100 for two national forums every week and you are correct when you state that Indiana teams are tough to gauge because of the limited OOS games.    Hopefully, the change in the 300-mile rule will allow that to happen more as we move forward.    A national promoter has told me that he is in touch with some Indiana teams regarding some possible matchups with national relevant teams in the next several years.    However, getting back to ranking Indiana teams, a look at last year's Center Grove team is a good study.   They were ranked in everyone's (including mine) top fifteen teams in the country.    The other fifteen teams' level of competition was much more difficult than was Center Grove's.    Then as you watch Center Grove eking out a championship win over an unranked but determined Westfield team, it gives you pause when they are being put at a level of say Duncanville (TX), Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas, or any other team ranked in that tier.   On top of that, I have to really be careful with Indiana teams to avoid bias, one way or the other.

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3 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

I do complete a Top 100 for two national forums every week and you are correct when you state that Indiana teams are tough to gauge because of the limited OOS games.    Hopefully, the change in the 300-mile rule will allow that to happen more as we move forward.    A national promoter has told me that he is in touch with some Indiana teams regarding some possible matchups with national relevant teams in the next several years.    However, getting back to ranking Indiana teams, a look at last year's Center Grove team is a good study.   They were ranked in everyone's (including mine) top fifteen teams in the country.    The other fifteen teams' level of competition was much more difficult than was Center Grove's.    Then as you watch Center Grove eking out a championship win over an unranked but determined Westfield team, it gives you pause when they are being put at a level of say Duncanville (TX), Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas, or any other team ranked in that tier.   On top of that, I have to really be careful with Indiana teams to avoid bias, one way or the other.

We had a previous poster spanning multiple handles on here who used to always advocate for a CG/Carmel vs IMG type match-up. I don't think even DT, in all his infinite wisdom, could really understand the level of mismatch that a program like IMG or any of the regular top 10 nationally teams would present for a team like Center Grove or Carmel or any team for Indiana for that matter. 

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39 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

We had a previous poster spanning multiple handles on here who used to always advocate for a CG/Carmel vs IMG type match-up. I don't think even DT, in all his infinite wisdom, could really understand the level of mismatch that a program like IMG or any of the regular top 10 nationally teams would present for a team like Center Grove or Carmel or any team for Indiana for that matter. 

Agree with you on that, however, there are exceptions where this state will have an outstanding team that can compete on a national level with anyone.   For instance, the 2003 Warren Central team (the Desmond Tardy team).    I recall traveling to Ryle, Kentucky to watch them play Cincinnati Elder, the year after Elder had won the Ohio Division I title.   We sat on the Elder side and all they did prior to kickoff was rip Indiana high school football.    I tried to tell them that Warren Central was a very good team, but it fell on deaf ears.    We left the game with about three minutes left with Warren Central ahead something like 43-24.   It may not be the correct score, but I do recall that Warren Central's punter was never on the field.   You are correct that most years it would be tough to stack up against a team like IMG Academy.   But we will never know until our teams get an opportunity on the field, which I think will lead to our teams being better from the experience.

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22 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

Agree with you on that, however, there are exceptions where this state will have an outstanding team that can compete on a national level with anyone.   For instance, the 2003 Warren Central team (the Desmond Tardy team).    I recall traveling to Ryle, Kentucky to watch them play Cincinnati Elder, the year after Elder had won the Ohio Division I title.   We sat on the Elder side and all they did prior to kickoff was rip Indiana high school football.    I tried to tell them that Warren Central was a very good team, but it fell on deaf ears.    We left the game with about three minutes left with Warren Central ahead something like 43-24.   It may not be the correct score, but I do recall that Warren Central's punter was never on the field.   You are correct that most years it would be tough to stack up against a team like IMG Academy.   But we will never know until our teams get an opportunity on the field, which I think will lead to our teams being better from the experience.

Indiana definitely has had some outliers. That 03 or 06 Warren team I think could compete and beat just about anybody. There were some very good Ben Davis teams in the 90's. And I do believe that last years Center Grove team could have beaten a lot of good teams in a one off night, just not sure how'd they fare playing the typical schedule that you see from a lot of these perennial top 25 teams. 

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1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

Yea, the new Allen coach is whining about the game.   Said he did not schedule it and talked of all the advantages that Bosco has but never mentioned how Allen has ruled Texas football using the same advantages.

That's a shame as Allen has typically been a team that just talked by its play on the field, didn't shy away from any type of game/opponent, and didn't make excuses.  My own boys and my players have always been taught to be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.  Hopefully Allen's coach will get back to exhibiting that philosophy. 

53 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

Then as you watch Center Grove eking out a championship win over an unranked but determined Westfield team, it gives you pause when they are being put at a level of say Duncanville (TX), Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas, or any other team ranked in that tier. 

And it's potentially more problematic when you see a team like South Oak Cliff, which played Duncanville, and hung with them in a 23-10 loss ... with the realization that Duncanville has about 3,800 students and SOC only has around 1,200.  That's pretty good punching power for the equivalent of an Indiana 4A school; especially given that Duncanville is Top 20.

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1 hour ago, foxbat said:

That's a shame as Allen has typically been a team that just talked by its play on the field, didn't shy away from any type of game/opponent, and didn't make excuses.  My own boys and my players have always been taught to be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.  Hopefully Allen's coach will get back to exhibiting that philosophy. 

And it's potentially more problematic when you see a team like South Oak Cliff, which played Duncanville, and hung with them in a 23-10 loss ... with the realization that Duncanville has about 3,800 students and SOC only has around 1,200.  That's pretty good punching power for the equivalent of an Indiana 4A school; especially given that Duncanville is Top 20.

I have always had the greatest respect for Allen but this new coach seems to be cut from a different cloth than they have had in the past.   I watched the South Oak Cliff-Duncanville game as well, and you are correct, they hung with them the entire game.   The score is not indicative of the play.

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5 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

This is why I'm always skeptical of where Indiana teams stack up nationally whenever they appear in some of these national rankings list. I bet if you did a week by week list like this, you would find that most of these teams in the top 100 are playing against top 100 competition (or close to it) week after week, whereas a team from Indiana ranked in the top 100 is only playing 1-2, maybe 3 teams who come close to sniffing the top 100. 

 

3 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

Agree with you on that, however, there are exceptions where this state will have an outstanding team that can compete on a national level with anyone.   For instance, the 2003 Warren Central team (the Desmond Tardy team).    I recall traveling to Ryle, Kentucky to watch them play Cincinnati Elder, the year after Elder had won the Ohio Division I title.   We sat on the Elder side and all they did prior to kickoff was rip Indiana high school football.    I tried to tell them that Warren Central was a very good team, but it fell on deaf ears.    We left the game with about three minutes left with Warren Central ahead something like 43-24.   It may not be the correct score, but I do recall that Warren Central's punter was never on the field.   You are correct that most years it would be tough to stack up against a team like IMG Academy.   But we will never know until our teams get an opportunity on the field, which I think will lead to our teams being better from the experience.

Similar experience when we play Trinity a fews ago David Bell's last year. We won and broke a long home winning streak for Trinity Louisville.

 

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5 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

Agree with you on that, however, there are exceptions where this state will have an outstanding team that can compete on a national level with anyone.   For instance, the 2003 Warren Central team (the Desmond Tardy team).    I recall traveling to Ryle, Kentucky to watch them play Cincinnati Elder, the year after Elder had won the Ohio Division I title.   We sat on the Elder side and all they did prior to kickoff was rip Indiana high school football.    I tried to tell them that Warren Central was a very good team, but it fell on deaf ears.    We left the game with about three minutes left with Warren Central ahead something like 43-24.   It may not be the correct score, but I do recall that Warren Central's punter was never on the field.   You are correct that most years it would be tough to stack up against a team like IMG Academy.   But we will never know until our teams get an opportunity on the field, which I think will lead to our teams being better from the experience.

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6 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

This is why I'm always skeptical of where Indiana teams stack up nationally whenever they appear in some of these national rankings list. I bet if you did a week by week list like this, you would find that most of these teams in the top 100 are playing against top 100 competition (or close to it) week after week, whereas a team from Indiana ranked in the top 100 is only playing 1-2, maybe 3 teams who come close to sniffing the top 100. 

If SOS is the only thing separating Indiana's top teams from national prestige, then that's pretty dang impressive for "a basketball state."

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1 minute ago, hhpatriot04 said:

If SOS is the only thing separating Indiana's top teams from national prestige, then that's pretty dang impressive for "a football state."

That's not what I'm necessarily implying. 

I just think it's tough to gauge where Indiana teams stand in correlation with a lot of these teams who play nationally rated teams week in and week out. I'll assure you that a team like St. Thomas Aquinas isn't playing teams of North Central, Pike, LC, LN, etc caliber, let alone 5-6 times a year. 

I have no doubt that last years Center Grove could have competed with just about any high school team in America on any given night, but I don't think there's any chance they come close to sniffing 15-0 playing a schedule comparable to St. Thomas Aquinas or Duncanville or most of any of these perennially ranked teams who play stout competition night in and night out. And that's not a knock on Center Grove or any excellent program in this state, it just goes to show you the nature of the beast you're up against playing in these football crazed states and cities. If you look at some of these conferences/leagues/district whatever you want to call them in Southern California, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc, they are littered with teams who are all top 100.

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1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

That's not what I'm necessarily implying. 

I just think it's tough to gauge where Indiana teams stand in correlation with a lot of these teams who play nationally rated teams week in and week out. I'll assure you that a team like St. Thomas Aquinas isn't playing teams of North Central, Pike, LC, LN, etc caliber, let alone 5-6 times a year. 

I have no doubt that last years Center Grove could have competed with just about any high school team in America on any given night, but I don't think there's any chance they come close to sniffing 15-0 playing a schedule comparable to St. Thomas Aquinas or Duncanville or most of any of these perennially ranked teams who play stout competition night in and night out. And that's not a knock on Center Grove or any excellent program in this state, it just goes to show you the nature of the beast you're up against playing in these football crazed states and cities. If you look at some of these conferences/leagues/district whatever you want to call them in Southern California, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc, they are littered with teams who are all top 100.

But do you think Indiana would have 4-8 teams in the Top 100 annually -- instead of 1-2 -- if Indiana played a more "progressive" or out-of-state schedule? 

If you were to start a 7/8 team conference in Indiana with the best teams and programs, don't you think they would catch up rather quickly? Thus the problem is Indiana's by-laws and scheduling, not any certain lack of nationally competitive squads.

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6 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

But do you think Indiana would have 4-8 teams in the Top 100 annually -- instead of 1-2 -- if Indiana played a more "progressive" or out-of-state schedule? 

If you were to start a 7/8 team conference in Indiana with the best teams and programs, don't you think they would catch up rather quickly? Thus the problem is Indiana's by-laws and scheduling, not any certain lack of nationally competitive squads.

Honestly, no. There's two dominant conferences in the state + Cathedral and most those teams already play each other annually anyway. There just isn't enough top level talent in Indiana, let alone depth level, where I could see that to be the case. 

You can go 3-4 weeks in the MIC or HCC and not face a team that has a P5 level player. These perennial teams I'm alluding too all have multiple P5 level players on top of several other legit D1 or FCFS caliber players and they play teams every week who are in the same boat.

If Center Grove or Carmel or Cathedral played a national 10 week schedule against some of these teams, I would be surprised if any of them finished above .500. It's not meant to be a knock, it just is what it is. I would guess there are Dallas/Houston/Atlanta area 6A level schools who would be considered just average or ok by their state standards that would still perennially contend for state championships in Indiana. 

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