temptation Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Only teams still remaining in the IHSAA tournament are eligible. Hamilton Southeastern Brownsburg Cathedral Center Grove Roncalli New Palestine Westfield Fishers Carroll (Fort Wayne) Fort Wayne Snider East Central Lawrence Central Warren Central Crown Point Fort Wayne North Whiteland Bishop Chatard NorthWood Brebeuf Jesuit West Lafayette New Prairie Merrillville Mishawaka Bloomington South Franklin Edited October 29, 2022 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 You badly want to move Carroll higher. You just can't until you see how they do against an Indy team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, BTF said: You badly want to move Carroll higher. You just can't until you see how they do against an Indy team. It's ok, I tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komets2727 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I think Carroll and Snider are both better than Fishers and Westfield. Let’s see how it plays out… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: I think Carroll and Snider are both better than Fishers and Westfield. Let’s see how it plays out… 35-7 over Penn is eye popping. Even the Indy folks can attest to that. I respect Temp's poll. He's ready to bounce Carroll and Snider like a yoyo. Could be up, could be down. We'll have answers after semi-state. I will say that Carroll's win over Penn should have put them at #5. He's being cautious. Right now I have Carroll over Fishers and Westfield with Snider right about even with them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastpacedO Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 7:12 PM, Komets2727 said: I think Carroll and Snider are both better than Fishers and Westfield. Let’s see how it plays out… I am not so sure I would say that right now. Fishers lost in OT to HSE 28-27 and lost to Westfield 28-17. Westfield dropped an early one to New Pal (who is evidently very good regardless of class this year)and lost to HSE 26-21 and actually had a lead on Brownsburg at halftime on the road. Westfield has steadily improved (evidenced by their win over Carmel). HSE is in my opinion Head and Shoulders above all remaining 6A North teams (we will se how it plays out), and Fishers and Westfield are right there with HSE. On 10/29/2022 at 7:23 PM, BTF said: 35-7 over Penn is eye popping. Even the Indy folks can attest to that. I respect Temp's poll. He's ready to bounce Carroll and Snider like a yoyo. Could be up, could be down. We'll have answers after semi-state. I will say that Carroll's win over Penn should have put them at #5. He's being cautious. Right now I have Carroll over Fishers and Westfield with Snider right about even with them. I am not sure I would go that far. Penn hasn't exactly been killing it the last couple of years. Right now I would take Fishers and Westfield over Carroll or Snider personally. Fortunately for Snider or Carrol they won't see Fishers or Westfield (unless they upset HSE which is very possible). I personally think barring any injury HSE will be coming out of the North (and I will eat my words if I am wrong). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, FastpacedO said: I am not so sure I would say that right now. Fishers lost in OT to HSE 28-27 and lost to Westfield 28-17. Westfield dropped an early one to New Pal (who is evidently very good regardless of class this year)and lost to HSE 26-21 and actually had a lead on Brownsburg at halftime on the road. Westfield has steadily improved (evidenced by their win over Carmel). HSE is in my opinion Head and Shoulders above all remaining 6A North teams (we will se how it plays out), and Fishers and Westfield are right there with HSE. I am not sure I would go that far. Penn hasn't exactly been killing it the last couple of years. Right now I would take Fishers and Westfield over Carroll or Snider personally. Fortunately for Snider or Carrol they won't see Fishers or Westfield (unless they upset HSE which is very possible). I personally think barring any injury HSE will be coming out of the North (and I will eat my words if I am wrong). Seconded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, FastpacedO said: I am not sure I would go that far. Penn hasn't exactly been killing it the last couple of years. Right now I would take Fishers and Westfield over Carroll or Snider personally. Fortunately for Snider or Carrol they won't see Fishers or Westfield (unless they upset HSE which is very possible). I personally think barring any injury HSE will be coming out of the North (and I will eat my words if I am wrong). Shame Westfield isn't still in 5A. They've had some good battles in the past. Edited October 31, 2022 by BTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, FastpacedO said: Penn hasn't exactly been killing it the last couple of years. They took Cathedral to the wire and had a pretty good season before getting dominated by Carroll. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Carroll can't hang with Indy's best............unless we're strictly going by results of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, FastpacedO said: I am not so sure I would say that right now. Fishers lost in OT to HSE 28-27 and lost to Westfield 28-17. Westfield dropped an early one to New Pal (who is evidently very good regardless of class this year)and lost to HSE 26-21 and actually had a lead on Brownsburg at halftime on the road. Westfield has steadily improved (evidenced by their win over Carmel). HSE is in my opinion Head and Shoulders above all remaining 6A North teams (we will se how it plays out), and Fishers and Westfield are right there with HSE. I am not sure I would go that far. Penn hasn't exactly been killing it the last couple of years. Right now I would take Fishers and Westfield over Carroll or Snider personally. Fortunately for Snider or Carrol they won't see Fishers or Westfield (unless they upset HSE which is very possible). I personally think barring any injury HSE will be coming out of the North (and I will eat my words if I am wrong). Let me clarify. Seconded until the last sentence. I am all in on Westfield coming out of the north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, temptation said: Let me clarify. Seconded until the last sentence. I am all in on Westfield coming out of the north. You've been optimistic regarding Westfield all season long, even when they didn't look so great at the beginning of the year. Turns out you knew something all along. The Rocks are looking good. I think it's out of bounds for some to say that Carroll isn't on the same playing field as Indy's best this year considering they beat Penn by a larger margin than Cathedral did and Homestead by a larger margin than HSE did. Winning 35-7 was an eye opener, but fans in Indy seem to want to turn a blind eye to it. The Chargers have a lot to prove, I get it considering how Indy has dominated 6A. Crown Point is really good and then the inevitable..............HSE/Westfield comes to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, BTF said: You've been optimistic regarding Westfield all season long, even when they didn't look so great at the beginning of the year. Turns out you knew something all along. The Rocks are looking good. I think it's out of bounds for some to say that Carroll isn't on the same playing field as Indy's best this year considering they beat Penn by a larger margin than Cathedral did and Homestead by a larger margin than HSE did. Winning 35-7 was an eye opener, but fans in Indy seem to want to turn a blind eye to it. The Chargers have a lot to prove, I get it considering how Indy has dominated 6A. Crown Point is really good and then the inevitable..............HSE/Westfield comes to town. Eh, got lucky. A big believer in experience and I think Gilbert is one hell of a coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastpacedO Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, BTF said: They took Cathedral to the wire and had a pretty good season before getting dominated by Carroll. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Carroll can't hang with Indy's best............unless we're strictly going by results of the past. If by the wire you mean stayed within 1 point prior to halftime (14-13). The Irish outscored them 21-8 and that 8 came in the 4th quarter, not what I would consider to the wire. It also was a week 3 game, week 3 vs week 10 or 11 can be totally different. Carroll can always prove me wrong and I will eat my words, but I believe Fishers, Westfield, and HSE would win in a head to head match-up. 1 minute ago, temptation said: Eh, got lucky. A big believer in experience and I think Gilbert is one hell of a coach. He definitely is. They took a couple lumps early on, but he has definitely coached the team up and as they have gained experience they have gotten better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 9:37 AM, BTF said: You badly want to move Carroll higher. You just can't until you see how they do against an Indy team. LOL. I was curious to see where he had Carroll as well. I watched most of their game with Penn. I was very surprised by their size, speed, and talent. I've been burned before thinking Carroll was ready for Hamilton County so I'll patiently wait to see how this unfolds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, FastpacedO said: If by the wire you mean stayed within 1 point prior to halftime (14-13). The Irish outscored them 21-8 and that 8 came in the 4th quarter, not what I would consider to the wire. It also was a week 3 game, week 3 vs week 10 or 11 can be totally different. Carroll can always prove me wrong and I will eat my words, but I believe Fishers, Westfield, and HSE would win in a head to head match-up. Penn could also say that they've improved since Week 3. There's certainly nothing wrong with thinking Fishers, Westfield, and HSE would be Carroll head to head. Given past performance, that would be the best bet. Anyway, the Crown Point/Carroll winner facing off against HSE/Westfield will have some intrigue to it. 1 minute ago, Boilernation said: LOL. I was curious to see where he had Carroll as well. I watched most of their game with Penn. I was very surprised by their size, speed, and talent. I've been burned before thinking Carroll was ready for Hamilton County so I'll patiently wait to see how this unfolds. From what I remember about Carroll's game against Snider, they're not flashy by any means. They just get the job done. Quality all over the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, temptation said: Eh, got lucky. A big believer in experience and I think Gilbert is one hell of a coach. His track record speaks for itself. Good coaching + growing suburban enrollment = extremely dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, BTF said: Penn could also say that they've improved since Week 3. There's certainly nothing wrong with thinking Fishers, Westfield, and HSE would be Carroll head to head. Given past performance, that would be the best bet. Anyway, the Crown Point/Carroll winner facing off against HSE/Westfield will have some intrigue to it. From what I remember about Carroll's game against Snider, they're not flashy by any means. They just get the job done. Quality all over the field. Do I need to say it, lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, BTF said: They took Cathedral to the wire and had a pretty good season before getting dominated by Carroll. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Carroll can't hang with Indy's best............unless we're strictly going by results of the past. Wire is a stretch but yes Penn did play Cathedral better than they've had in the past. It is important to note that CHS was down their starting RB, TE, and DT, two of which are D1 commits. Definitely suffered a first half hangover after a pretty demoralizing loss to Brownsburg, but turned it on in the second half when they needed too. As far as Carroll goes, I haven't seen them play so can't really comment. They should have their chance to prove themselves here in a few weeks assuming they get past Crown Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Kokomo Wildkats Carroll Cougars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Kokomo Wildkats Carroll Cougars Kokomo - HM (#27) Carroll - NR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarab527 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, BTF said: I think it's out of bounds for some to say that Carroll isn't on the same playing field as Indy's best this year considering they beat Penn by a larger margin than Cathedral did and Homestead by a larger margin than HSE did. Winning 35-7 was an eye opener, but fans in Indy seem to want to turn a blind eye to it. The Chargers have a lot to prove, I get it considering how Indy has dominated 6A. Crown Point is really good and then the inevitable..............HSE/Westfield comes to town. After watching CP/Portage last week and seeing what Carroll did to Penn, I'm taking the Chargers by 3 TDs over CP. They are the best team outside of the Donut. I'm interested to see how they stack up against whoever comes out of the other regional. But I've gotten my hopes up before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, scarab527 said: After watching CP/Portage last week and seeing what Carroll did to Penn, I'm taking the Chargers by 3 TDs over CP. They are the best team outside of the Donut. I'm interested to see how they stack up against whoever comes out of the other regional. But I've gotten my hopes up before... Likewise. Could be a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears62 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 You mind dropping like HM 26-40, if u have already determined those teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bears62 said: You mind dropping like HM 26-40, if u have already determined those teams? 26. Lafayette Jefferson 27. Kokomo 28. Southridge 29. Andrean 30. Plainfield 31. Martinsville 32. Owen Valley 33. Warsaw 34. Indianapolis Lutheran 35. Boonville 36. Evansville Memorial 37. Columbia City 38. Indianapolis Scecina 39. Triton Central 40. Valparaiso 41. Norwell 42. Chesterton 43. Lawrenceburg 44. Leo 45. Linton-Stockton 46. Evansville Mater Dei 47. Hobart 48. Eastside 49. Guerin Catholic 50. Castle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Norwell could be as high as 15. I think Chatard will have their hands full with them. I don't think it's off base to think they are currently #22. Maybe it's my northern bias, we'll find out. Good poll Temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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