temptation Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Never too early. Let’s get it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lburg3Peat Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Temp probably has Chatard winning by 45. Hopefully the Tigers can continue to prove people wrong. Chatard is scary good though, so it’ll take a really good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Lburg3Peat said: Temp probably has Chatard winning by 45. Hopefully the Tigers can continue to prove people wrong. Chatard is scary good though, so it’ll take a really good game. Eh, 10-14. I haven’t been really high on Chatard all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Chatard is proof that the success factor has been a failure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonpie29 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Whiskey vs wine, unconsecrated underground water vs consecrated watered down church wine, untucked jerseys vs tucked. The Tigers need to pull some left over Gibson Southern juice from last year. Long live the South.....(eye roll, acknowledging a Royal vs Rebel). EIAC trying to make some noise. ...and not that it matters, but there ain't nothing broken with the all in👅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: Chatard is proof that the success factor has been a failure. How so? Won in 3A, got moved to 4A and didn't get the points to stay so they came back down. Edited November 19, 2022 by tango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, temptation said: Eh, 10-14. I haven’t been really high on Chatard all season. Pretty ho-hum year for Chatard resulting in yet another trip to LOS. Cathedral and Roncalli were both on the cusp of potentially program defining seasons leaving ol Chatard in the shadows, Trojans get the last laugh. Still the best pound for pound program in the state in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, tango said: How so? Won in 3A, got moved to 4A and didn't get the points to stay so they came back down. They play one year in Class 4A, get beat in the sectional championship by Roncalli, now drop back to win their third 3A title in four years. It is too easy to drop back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: They play one year in Class 4A, get beat in the sectional championship by Roncalli, now drop back to win their third 3A title in four years. It is too easy to drop back. So because they were not good enough to win 4a, but still clobber 3a you think that the success factor is a failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Baker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: They play one year in Class 4A, get beat in the sectional championship by Roncalli, now drop back to win their third 3A title in four years. It is too easy to drop back. They were only 4A one season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali23 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, Donnie Baker said: They were only 4A one season? It was an off year realignment due to Covid school enrollment numbers being off. Chatard just had the good fortune of being moved down this year due to number of teams in 3A/4A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso Ayche Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I think @slice60 said it most eloquently back in April: ”Yes, I can explain it. The IHSAA crapped the bed. Here is how Chatard has fared in the last 25 years (22 of 25 years in 3A, except where noted). Chatard has won the 3A state title in 13 of 22 tournaments over the past 25 years. If that doesn't scream MOVED UP DUE TO SUCCESS FACTOR, I do not know what does. 97-State Champ 98-State Champ 99-Lost in Sect (Roncalli-State Champ) 00-Lost in Sect (Heritage Hills-State Champ) 01-State Champ 02-State Champ 03-State Champ 04-Reg Champ (Andrean-State Champ) 05-Reg Champ (NorthWood-State Champ) 06-State Champ 07-State Champ 08-Reg Champ (Bellmont-State Champ) 09-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ) 10-State Champ 11-State Champ 12-State Champ 13-moved up to 4A, won Sect (Andrean-3A State Champ) 14-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Tri West-3A State Champ) 15-State Champ 16-Lost in Sect (FW Concordia-State Champ) 17-Sect Champ (Ev Memorial-State Champ) 18-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ) 19-State Champ 20-State Champ 21-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Gibson So-3A State Champ) " I think there was a very real concern that Chatard might run into it's second string of three consecutive non-state champ seasons in eight years and the IHSAA wanted to nip it in the bud. The embarrassment that this kind of perceived downturn in a program as storied as Chatard might lead to the utter collapse of the team, the Chatard community, and, more broadly, the entire 3A class. How would the IHSAA move forward with only five classes of postseason football being viable, while 64 3A teams wander aimlessly from one gridiron to another for a month, sometimes three schools on the same field, occasionally a team stumbling into a different state's playoffs entirely. Something like this could ultimately be the downfall of Indiana football as well know it. /s Meanwhile, I believe Dwenger and LCC both stayed up this season, if I'm not mistaken. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I think I get what is being said I agree we should remove the success factor And stop handing out fake state championships 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippy Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rodney said: I think I get what is being said I agree we should remove the success factor And stop handing out fake state championships I don't like the success factor. Everyone seems to be in the wrong class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Please God…let Lawrencburg win against the evil cheating Catholics! 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Rodney said: So because they were not good enough to win 4a, but still clobber 3a you think that the success factor is a failure? They made the sectional championship game. In any other sectional, they most likely win it and then are forced to stay in 4A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: They made the sectional championship game. In any other sectional, they most likely win it and then are forced to stay in 4A. Maybe your team should start hitting the weight room now so they can compete next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali23 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: They made the sectional championship game. In any other sectional, they most likely win it and then are forced to stay in 4A. 4A south has been a meat grinder in recent years, especially with the evil cheating Catholics from Evansville playing up. Pretty tough to stay up up a class in that half of the bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Esso Ayche said: I think @slice60 said it most eloquently back in April: ”Yes, I can explain it. The IHSAA crapped the bed. Here is how Chatard has fared in the last 25 years (22 of 25 years in 3A, except where noted). Chatard has won the 3A state title in 13 of 22 tournaments over the past 25 years. If that doesn't scream MOVED UP DUE TO SUCCESS FACTOR, I do not know what does. 97-State Champ 98-State Champ 99-Lost in Sect (Roncalli-State Champ) 00-Lost in Sect (Heritage Hills-State Champ) 01-State Champ 02-State Champ 03-State Champ 04-Reg Champ (Andrean-State Champ) 05-Reg Champ (NorthWood-State Champ) 06-State Champ 07-State Champ 08-Reg Champ (Bellmont-State Champ) 09-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ) 10-State Champ 11-State Champ 12-State Champ 13-moved up to 4A, won Sect (Andrean-3A State Champ) 14-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Tri West-3A State Champ) 15-State Champ 16-Lost in Sect (FW Concordia-State Champ) 17-Sect Champ (Ev Memorial-State Champ) 18-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ) 19-State Champ 20-State Champ 21-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Gibson So-3A State Champ) " I think there was a very real concern that Chatard might run into it's second string of three consecutive non-state champ seasons in eight years and the IHSAA wanted to nip it in the bud. The embarrassment that this kind of perceived downturn in a program as storied as Chatard might lead to the utter collapse of the team, the Chatard community, and, more broadly, the entire 3A class. How would the IHSAA move forward with only five classes of postseason football being viable, while 64 3A teams wander aimlessly from one gridiron to another for a month, sometimes three schools on the same field, occasionally a team stumbling into a different state's playoffs entirely. Something like this could ultimately be the downfall of Indiana football as well know it. /s Meanwhile, I believe Dwenger and LCC both stayed up this season, if I'm not mistaken. Gibson Southern loses to Owen Valley and this guy wants to cry about Chatard. Classic 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screagle Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Memorial loves playing Chatard. I guess Memorial has cheated just a little better than Chatard in their matchups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali23 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Screagle said: Memorial loves playing Chatard. I guess Memorial has cheated just a little better than Chatard in their matchups. I bet they do. 1-3 all time, I think. Good wins by the Tigers in the last three meetings. A regular season matchup would be fun (if SIAC could schedule out of conf games). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso Ayche Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Footballking16 said: Gibson Southern loses to Owen Valley and this guy wants to cry about Chatard. Classic Crying? Lmao GS got beat, I moved on to wrestling the next week. Get a hold of yourself. Chatard most very likely doesn't even want to be in 3A. I almost guarantee they have a very strong desire to put a 4A trophy on the shelf next to all their 3A hardware. What TF do they have to prove beating the sh*t out of all us rednecks down here in Kentucky? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) Temp’s Official Prediction: Chatard 27-17. Edited November 20, 2022 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Reading through this thread - is it just a foregone conclusion that Chatard wins this one? I understand and get their history in 3A..... If I'm not mistaken, there is still a game that has to be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip2 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 15 hours ago, temptation said: Eh, 10-14. I haven’t been really high on Chatard all season. Yea, very evident you didn't like Lawrenceburg by looking at your rankings and posts. Not high on Chatard either. Guess that explains why they are playing each other for the 3A championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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