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2 hours ago, superjay said:

The Sagamore doesn’t want Tri-West, Danville, and Lebanon anymore.  There would be a large gap in enrollment but all three are growing.  TW, Leb, Jeff, McCutcheon, Harrison, Danville.  Thoughts?

Harrison has played Tri-West on its undercard before, so it's not necessarily that far out there.  At the same time, Harrison has also recently had other undercards like Chatard, Cathedral, Roncalli, and Brebeuf too, so there's an interesting trend there ... especially considering LCC was added as the scrimmage opponent last season.

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3 hours ago, foxbat said:

Harrison has played Tri-West on its undercard before, so it's not necessarily that far out there.  At the same time, Harrison has also recently had other undercards like Chatard, Cathedral, Roncalli, and Brebeuf too, so there's an interesting trend there ... especially considering LCC was added as the scrimmage opponent last season.

I can’t see Harrison adding small schools to its non-con schedule anymore.  Coach Peebles is building for bigger things than playing TW. 

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11 minutes ago, US31 said:

I can’t see Harrison adding small schools to its non-con schedule anymore.  Coach Peebles is building for bigger things than playing TW. 

Probably not.  Tri-West stepped in on an undercard game when Richmond said that they wouldn't be sending a JV team to play Harrison's JV. 

Harrison only has two non-con games on its schedule anyway at this point.  They used to have Westfield and THS, but this last year, and for the coming season, they got West Lafayette and Plainfield.  I'm not sure if that's just a home-and-home with those guys or a multi-year activity.

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It’s trending in that direction.  TW, Danville, and Lebanon are growing.  The rest of the conference is stagnant.  The gap is only getting bigger in enrollment.  TW has won 44 straight against the Montgomery county schools.  
Lafayette Jeff might not be interested.  I understand that, but the alternative is wasting your time driving to places like Anderson and Richmond that are only competitive in basketball.  
Even add West Lafayette and Western to make an 8 school conference.  WeBo and Frankfort can replace them in the Hoosier.

 

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13 hours ago, superjay said:

It’s trending in that direction.  TW, Danville, and Lebanon are growing.  The rest of the conference is stagnant.  The gap is only getting bigger in enrollment.  TW has won 44 straight against the Montgomery county schools.  
Lafayette Jeff might not be interested.  I understand that, but the alternative is wasting your time driving to places like Anderson and Richmond that are only competitive in basketball.  
Even add West Lafayette and Western to make an 8 school conference.  WeBo and Frankfort can replace them in the Hoosier.

 

SuperJay, 
While the record is still dismal. TW has not beaten Montgomery County schools in 44 straight games. Its only 36. They have beaten South and NM 11 straight times and CHS 14. South and NM both beat TW in 2011 and CHS last beat them in 2008.

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3 minutes ago, Bearmo17 said:

SuperJay, 
While the record is still dismal. TW has not beaten Montgomery County schools in 44 straight games. Its only 36. They have beaten South and NM 11 straight times and CHS 14. South and NM both beat TW in 2011 and CHS last beat them in 2008.

You are correct.  That 44 in a row also includes Frankfort.  I left that out.  But it appears a lot is going on to break up the Sagamore.

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17 hours ago, superjay said:

It’s trending in that direction.  TW, Danville, and Lebanon are growing.  The rest of the conference is stagnant.  The gap is only getting bigger in enrollment.  TW has won 44 straight against the Montgomery county schools.  
Lafayette Jeff might not be interested.  I understand that, but the alternative is wasting your time driving to places like Anderson and Richmond that are only competitive in basketball.  
Even add West Lafayette and Western to make an 8 school conference.  WeBo and Frankfort can replace them in the Hoosier.

 

TW, Danville, and Lebanon really haven’t grown that much, but the gap is increasing because some of the other SAC schools, especially North Montgomery and Southmont, are seeing a decline in enrollment.  Here’s a comparison going back 15 years to 2007-08 and the enrollments from count day this past fall.

School - 2007 Enrollment / 2022 Enrollment

Danville - 811 / 778

Lebanon - 1033 / 1027

Tri-West - 560 / 615

Crawfordsville - 726 / 689

Frankfort - 906 / 895

North Montgomery - 684 / 516

Southmont - 651 / 477

Western Boone - 619 / 556

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On 2/27/2023 at 10:46 AM, superjay said:

The Sagamore doesn’t want Tri-West, Danville, and Lebanon anymore.  There would be a large gap in enrollment but all three are growing.  TW, Leb, Jeff, McCutcheon, Harrison, Danville.  Thoughts?

Interesting.  Might need to add one more heavyweight as I don't the the powers that be at Jeff being too thrilled about playing these smaller schools.

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On 2/27/2023 at 2:13 PM, foxbat said:

Harrison has played Tri-West on its undercard before, so it's not necessarily that far out there.  At the same time, Harrison has also recently had other undercards like Chatard, Cathedral, Roncalli, and Brebeuf too, so there's an interesting trend there ... especially considering LCC was added as the scrimmage opponent last season.

Webo played Harrison 2014-2018

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Given that super/mega/ultra/hella/insert your own superlative thing in the NCAA, could it work in the IHSAA?

 

MIC-HCC

DAC-Northern Indiana

Conference Indiana-Southern Indiana

North Central-Hoosier Heritage

Allen County-Northeast 8

Pocket-Patoka Lake

Hoosier-Three Rivers

Midwest-Hoosier Heartland

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