Bobref Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 hours ago, btownqbcoach1 said: I see no market here whatsoever. We are talking about talents, QBs, and real people, not inanimate objects. My house can't blow an ACL. My house doesn't insist you change everything about your franchise to make my talents work (even those talents will be up in about 3-4 years when father time catches up) They massively overpaid for a guy that can't stay healthy. I find it hilarious, personally. Our apparent disagreement springs from our different usages of the word “worth.” You are using it in the sense of a subjective evaluation that is personal to the evaluator. You’re basically saying that if you were the Ravens GM, you would have made a different decision, based on the factors you identified. I’m using the term as synonymous with “fair market value,” a term that refers to the amount a willing buyer would pay a willing seller. Baltimore was a willing buyer and Lamar a willing seller at that price. Ipso facto that contract represents his fair market value. One is an opinion. The other is fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Aaron Rodgers is set to speak at a psychedelics conference: https://apnews.com/article/aaron-rodgers-psychedelics-conference-bae8c5ae3f221770fb84b123a92cf2d2 Quote Months after Colorado’s voters decided to join Oregon in decriminalizing psychedelic mushrooms, Denver will host a conference this week put on by a psychedelic advocacy group bringing together an unlikely cohort of speakers — including an NFL star, a former Republican governor and a rapper. The conference and the thousands expected to attend it is an indication of the creep, or perhaps leap, of cultural acceptance for psychedelic substances that proponents say may offer benefits for things like post-traumatic stress disorder and alcoholism. Still, medical experts caution that more research is needed on the drugs’ efficacy and the extent of the risks of psychedelics, which can cause hallucinations. NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who’ll soon debut with the New York Jets after years with the Green Bay Packers, has been open about his use of ayahuasca in the past and is slated to speak Wednesday. Rapper Jaden Smith, the son of Will Smith who has publicly shared the “ego dissolution” he felt when using psychedelics, will be speaking in Denver, too, as will former Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry, who is an advocate for researching psychedelics’ potential benefits for veterans experiencing PTSD. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Muda69 said: Aaron Rodgers is set to speak at a psychedelics conference: https://apnews.com/article/aaron-rodgers-psychedelics-conference-bae8c5ae3f221770fb84b123a92cf2d2 It’s like he’s just feeding us straight lines. 😂🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 https://deadspin.com/nfl-saquon-barkley-giants-josh-jacobs-raiders-cowboys-1850650722 Quote On the field, running backs have an offensive line to protect them. Off of the field, all they have is each other. The position with the shortest career span in the NFL has become the one that comes with the hardest fight to receive a contract that properly compensates their contributions. The deadline for players on a franchise tag to negotiate a multi-year deal has passed. Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley, and Tony Pollard are stuck with one-year contracts. Their peers were displeased with those outcomes. Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, and others took to social media to express how they feel that their position is not being shown the proper respect. All NFL players are at a disadvantageous bargaining position against management. It’s why both strikes in 1982 and 1987 resulted in minimal gains for the players. Neither one even got the players free agency, and when they finally got it a salary cap was instituted. With 53 players on a team — many not making much money while a few stars rake it in — it’s nearly impossible for the entire player’s association to stand firm long enough to make a real economic difference. When most of the union isn’t going to play five seasons, they will likely not reap the benefits of any sacrifice that they make. It is why the NFL has this hard salary cap, and as a result, teams are reluctant to spend a large percentage of it on a running back. The thought is that there are plenty of rookie running backs, and veterans going from team to team on one-year deals, that can perform well enough as a group to keep a defense honest. The days of great running backs sharing the marquee with the quarterbacks as the faces of the league are over. With the rookie wage scale crippling players’ earning capabilities, a talented running back right out of college can run circles around the NFL on 350 touches. Game breakers in the backfield are no less capable of turning games than they were in 1993. But these days they take even worse of a pounding. The defensive linemen of today look like they all had Bruce Banner accidents. Vita Vea, Aaron Donald, Ed Oliver, men built like that are who 21-year-olds are sent face first into, repetitively. A running back healthy for 17 games is a luxury. The excuse that quarterbacks take up too much of the cap can be used by some teams, but certainly not the New York Giants and Las Vegas Raiders. The Giants can get out of Daniel Jones’ contract after 2024 if they choose, and Jimmy Garoppolo can be cut if he hurts his foot again this season. Neither of them is close to $50 million per year players. Jacobs and Barkely are necessary for either of their teams to have success in 2023. The Raiders appear headed for the bottom of the AFC West and will arrive there with great speed without Jacobs. The Giants are coming off of a playoff season. In Daboll’s second season, a team with Barkley and an improving young defense could be noisy in the NFC. But with Barkley’s return to the roster nowhere in sight, go ahead and pencil the Giants in for last in their division and possibly the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. They made the playoffs for the first time in six years, have a quarterback on a team-friendly deal, and still chose to not find the money to sign their best player to a multi-year extension. Matt Breida and Eric Gray aren’t taking them back to the postseason. Typical corporate resource restriction. Instead of putting out the best product possible, teams would rather knowingly put a worse roster on the field and save a few million dollars knowing that fans won’t stop buying tickets and watching games, and also those new television deals have already been signed. Why not beat up some of their best athletes for a few years and then refuse to even pay them a $15 million annual value contract that the franchise could probably get out of after two years? This is the market that Taylor has to look forward to when it comes time to renew his contract. He already has a 300-plus carry season under his belt, and needed ankle surgery this offseason. Taylor could get stuck like Barkley and Jacobs on a franchise tag, or worst case scenario released like Dalvin Cook. Appreciation is not in the cards for running backs these days. For all of the busted shoulders, lower body surgeries, and head injuries, a good situation is if a team wants them around at all after 25 years old. They get pats on the back from coaches for picking up blitzes and fighting for first downs, but no dough. I guess I was lucky to be able to watch Walter Payton in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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