FinePrint Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 It appears Bremen, John Glenn and Jimtown have dumped Clay from their 2023 football schedule. Tippy Valley is reporting games with these future conference opponents on the weeks they have previously been scheduled to play Clay. I'm wondering if Clay is planning to field a team this fall. With the school closing at the end of the 2023-24 school year, maybe they have already given up on football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Saw this yesterday as well. From what I heard last night this totally blindsided Clay and as of now they still planned to field a team. But losing 1/3 of your schedule this late in the year how will that affect things is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US31 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Did Clay have a JV and/or Frosh team last year? If not, then I can completley understand a school dropping them. Why schedule a team that would not allow your own JV and Frosh to have a game that week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Well as of this coming season it is a conference game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 From what I heard, the 3 schools are sending their JV to play them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US31 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 12 hours ago, MarshallCounty said: From what I heard, the 3 schools are sending their JV to play them. Does TV not have a JV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 34 minutes ago, US31 said: Does TV not have a JV? TV is probably still putting together a jv schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 14 hours ago, MarshallCounty said: From what I heard, the 3 schools are sending their JV to play them. So they canceled the varsity games against Clay and only offering them JV games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/12/2023 at 2:17 PM, MarshallCounty said: Yep I could be wrong, but I don’t think a school can play 2 varsity games a week. So did Clay agree to just play a JV game and cancel the varsity game? If not how can a team just decide not to play a conference game? If someone skips a varsity game, is it considered a forfeit? Interesting situation going on with Clay closing and those 3 leaving conference next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 On 5/11/2023 at 9:18 PM, MarshallCounty said: From what I heard, the 3 schools are sending their JV to play them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg that is such a burn! The NIC just needs to tell SBSC to begin the athletics merger now. What will happen is the kids playing ball will either not play or show up for practice at what will be their future school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 22 hours ago, SBFootballFan6 said: I could be wrong, but I don’t think a school can play 2 varsity games a week. So did Clay agree to just play a JV game and cancel the varsity game? If not how can a team just decide not to play a conference game? If someone skips a varsity game, is it considered a forfeit? Interesting situation going on with Clay closing and those 3 leaving conference next year. Maybe they just don't care. adding TV to their schedule is better for them in the long run. This is also interesting, if they don't play Clay, and the NIC rules it a forfeit, but the team beats TV in their game, which record do you go with? What would the IHSAA recognize as the proper record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg that is such a burn! The NIC just needs to tell SBSC to begin the athletics merger now. What will happen is the kids playing ball will either not play or show up for practice at what will be their future school. Well if you go by the by-laws, those players would not be able to play varsity sports. So they are in a tough spot. 1 hour ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said: Maybe they just don't care. adding TV to their schedule is better for them in the long run. This is also interesting, if they don't play Clay, and the NIC rules it a forfeit, but the team beats TV in their game, which record do you go with? What would the IHSAA recognize as the proper record? Yes this will be an interesting thing to monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 hours ago, SBFootballFan6 said: Well if you go by the by-laws, those players would not be able to play varsity sports. So they are in a tough spot. That is unfortunate. SBSC really created a pickle for a bunch of kids that they probably never considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 5/14/2023 at 1:14 PM, SBFootballFan6 said: I could be wrong, but I don’t think a school can play 2 varsity games a week. So did Clay agree to just play a JV game and cancel the varsity game? If not how can a team just decide not to play a conference game? If someone skips a varsity game, is it considered a forfeit? Interesting situation going on with Clay closing and those 3 leaving conference next year. They will probably count it as a JV game and Clay will count it as a varsity game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 14 hours ago, MarshallCounty said: They will probably count it as a JV game and Clay will count it as a varsity game. So if those 3 count it as JV games, would that mean their varsity forfeit their conference varsity game against Clay? So would each of these 3 start out with a lose in conference and does Clay start their season 3-0? I'm just not seeing how they can cancel a conference game and it not count as a forfeit. Someone help me out on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 42 minutes ago, SBFootballFan6 said: So if those 3 count it as JV games, would that mean their varsity forfeit their conference varsity game against Clay? So would each of these 3 start out with a lose in conference and does Clay start their season 3-0? I'm just not seeing how they can cancel a conference game and it not count as a forfeit. Someone help me out on this. Probably. But I don't have the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 5 hours ago, SBFootballFan6 said: So if those 3 count it as JV games, would that mean their varsity forfeit their conference varsity game against Clay? So would each of these 3 start out with a lose in conference and does Clay start their season 3-0? I'm just not seeing how they can cancel a conference game and it not count as a forfeit. Someone help me out on this. That seems like the most reasonable answer. There is a chance it may work out this way. Clay will "start" the regular season 3-0 at the varsity level. Since Bremen, Jimtown and Glenn are all leaving they will either force it as a varsity level loss or just turn a blind eye to it. If they turn the blind eye to it, those schools could pawn that loss off on the JV teams, even if they actually win the game on the field. If the playoffs actually did seeding, then this would be very important. However, since there is no seeding, even if you take the L at the Varsity level it does not affect your playoff standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 17 hours ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said: That seems like the most reasonable answer. There is a chance it may work out this way. Clay will "start" the regular season 3-0 at the varsity level. Since Bremen, Jimtown and Glenn are all leaving they will either force it as a varsity level loss or just turn a blind eye to it. If they turn the blind eye to it, those schools could pawn that loss off on the JV teams, even if they actually win the game on the field. If the playoffs actually did seeding, then this would be very important. However, since there is no seeding, even if you take the L at the Varsity level it does not affect your playoff standing. Thats a very good point, and the benefit of playing in Indiana. Now only thing it would effect is their finish in conference rankings. They probably don't even care if they leave with a conference title or not. They are just ready to be gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, SBFootballFan6 said: the benefit of playing in Indiana Benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 49 minutes ago, Bobref said: Benefit? Well it is a benefit to the ones who may struggle for whatever reason in regular season, but has a team that can make a run possibly in their level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, SBFootballFan6 said: Well it is a benefit to the ones who may struggle for whatever reason in regular season, but has a team that can make a run possibly in their level. You know, I’m just going to pass. I’m still trying to grow as a person. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBFootballFan6 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 12 minutes ago, Bobref said: You know, I’m just going to pass. I’m still trying to grow as a person. 😂 I understand your point, and never said I'm a fan. But there has been programs that have ended regular seasons with losing records in Indiana and made long runs. Usually because they were one of smaller schools in bigger conferences. At some point Indiana will most likely change it's all in concept, but until then this is what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallCounty Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 56 minutes ago, SBFootballFan6 said: I understand your point, and never said I'm a fan. But there has been programs that have ended regular seasons with losing records in Indiana and made long runs. Usually because they were one of smaller schools in bigger conferences. At some point Indiana will most likely change it's all in concept, but until then this is what we got. I don’t believe so. They want to keep the all in concept the same for all sports. You change football are you going to ask the same for basketball or soccer or baseball or volleyball or golf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, SBFootballFan6 said: At some point Indiana will most likely change it's all in concept Probably right after the Legislature legalizes cannabis. 🤣😵💫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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