Alexandria Ocasoi-Cortez - Needs her own thread.....

[gonzoron]

Fire-Breathing 150-Foot Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Attacks Congress

https://unsubscribedmedia.com/2019/03/16/fire-breathing-150-foot-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attacks-congress/?fbclid=IwAR1XYm0jvcRdjy_dqLMfyWkMlqzs1Nr4ZRN-3iWk69r-B2KAlMh7D1s-WMM

[swordfish]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ocasio-cortez-flubs-history-fdr-change-to-constitution

She must be upsetting the leaders of the left when the MSM is actually pointing out her flubs........

 

 

 

[foxbat]

On 4/1/2019 at 8:37 AM, swordfish said:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ocasio-cortez-flubs-history-fdr-change-to-constitution

She must be upsetting the leaders of the left when the MSM is actually pointing out her flubs........

 

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attacked-twitter-constitutional-mistake-was-she-1381693

 

[gonzoron]

15 minutes ago, foxbat said:

https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attacked-twitter-constitutional-mistake-was-she-1381693

 

See also: Bill Clinton blamed for NAFTA

[swordfish]

18 hours ago, foxbat said:

https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attacked-twitter-constitutional-mistake-was-she-1381693

 

"They had to amend the Constitution of the United States to make sure Roosevelt did not get reelected," 

You really want to defend that statement?  

[Muda69]

27 minutes ago, swordfish said:

"They had to amend the Constitution of the United States to make sure Roosevelt did not get reelected," 

You really want to defend that statement?  

That Newsweek article is nothing but spin.   I thought words mattered?

 

[foxbat]

50 minutes ago, swordfish said:

"They had to amend the Constitution of the United States to make sure Roosevelt did not get reelected," 

You really want to defend that statement?  

I'm not defending whether it was amended at the time or what her understanding of it was.  That amendment has Roosevelt written all over it and it was the timing of the adoption being the only thing that separated whether it actually happened from whether it did.  Look at the history of that amendment and its timing.  It wasn't something, like the 25th, that took on different meaning/significance based on Kennedy's assassination or that lingered in flux with Garfield's assassination and Wilson's disabled state. 

[Muda69]

Capital is a Mystery to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: https://mises.org/wire/capital-mystery-alexandria-ocasio-cortez

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We all know that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is dominating the political news with her demands for socializing the economy. Bob Murphy has explained that her Green New Deal “makes no sense on economic grounds” and even for Keynesians it “ would be nonsensical to implement such a program today.” Given the inanity of the Green New Deal, I would like to propose a course of study for Ocasio-Cortez.

While Ocasio-Cortez has a degree in economics, she apparently never learned the lessons stressed by Hernando de Soto in his The Mystery of Capital. The country would be better off if AOC and politicians of all stripes understood and took to heart de Soto’s warnings.

“People who have adapted every other Western invention, from the paper clip to the nuclear reactor, have not been able to produce sufficient capital to make their domestic capitalism work.” This, according to de Soto, is the mystery of capital.

De Soto argues that “capital, the most essential component of Western economic advance, is the one that has received the least attention” and shows that the major barrier to the production of capital is the lack of private property rights in struggling countries. Socialism, particularly the extreme proposals from Ocasio-Cortez, undermine and in some cases completely eliminate private property. De Soto provides us with a mainly historical argument showing that adopting socialist proposals will destroy the capital producing engine that powers the U.S. economy.

Westerners, de Soto points out, take this capital producing “mechanism so completely for granted that they have lost all awareness of its existence.”

De Soto’s fear is that if we don’t understand the importance of private property in producing the capital necessary for our increasing standards of living then “the West might damage the source of its own strength. Being clear about the source of capital will also prepare the West to protect itself and the rest of the world as soon as the prosperity of the moment yields to the crisis that is sure to come.”

The Green New Deal could be such a crisis.

In his book, after explaining five mysteries of capital: The Mystery of Missing Information, The Mystery of Capital, The Mystery of Political Awareness, The Missing Lessons of U.S. History, and the Mystery of Legal Failure: Why Property Law Does Not Work, de Soto again emphasizes the importance of private property rights and concludes that the problem in underdeveloped countries is that “most people cannot participate in an expanded market because they do not have access to a legal property rights system that represents their assets in a manner that makes them widely transferable and fungible, that allows them to be encumbered and permits their owners to be held accountable.”

De Soto also adopts a Misesian view of the importance of the capitalist entrepreneur in economic development, citing “the arduous achievements of those small entrepreneurs who have triumphed over every imaginable obstacle to create the greater part of the wealth of their society.” These “heroic entrepreneurs” according to de Soto are “are not the problem. They are the solution” to global poverty.

De Soto warns us that if we forget the importance of having a system of property rights that generates privately held capital then we will destroy the capitalist basis of our economy.

We should take de Soto’s warning to heart. We must remember our history. We must provide an intellectual defense of private property and make the case against government depredations of our property that are proposed by AOC and her fellow travelers.

Finally, I would like to add that I am not completely endorsing de Soto’s book. Those of us who are accustomed to Ludwig von Mises’ analysis of the importance of capital and his systematic defense of private property will find, I suspect, that de Soto does not fully understand the role of savings in generating capital and does not go far enough in his defense of private property rights.

In just a few pages, Mises, in his “The Economic Role of Saving and Capital Goods”1 demolishes the socialist criticisms of private capital. Mises explains that “What distinguishes contemporary life in the countries of Western civilization from condition as they prevailed in earlier ages… is the amount of capital accumulated.” And “What elevates the wage rates paid to the American workers above the rates paid in foreign countries is the fact that investment of capital per worker is higher in this country than abroad.” Mises concludes that the way to benefit workers is to refrain from imposing government policies that obstruct saving and capital accumulation.

De Soto focuses on the lack of capital in poorer countries. On this issue, I recommend Mises’ “The Plight of the Underdeveloped Nations.”2 Here, Mises provides us with an excellent analysis of the institutional problems in less developed countries. The countries are underdeveloped because “they had been slow in developing those ideological and institutional conditions which are the indispensable prerequisite of large scale capital accumulation.” What should underdeveloped nations do to “eradicate penury”? “They must resort to laissez faire; they must remove all obstacles fettering the spirit of enterprise and stunting domestic capital accumulation and the inflow of capital from abroad.”

If Ocasio Cortez and other socialists understood the lessons of de Soto and Mises they might be reluctant to support policies that destroy the basis of a thriving economy, private property rights and capital accumulation.

 

[Impartial_Observer]

On 4/1/2019 at 8:37 AM, swordfish said:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ocasio-cortez-flubs-history-fdr-change-to-constitution

She must be upsetting the leaders of the left when the MSM is actually pointing out her flubs........

 

 

 

As I have stated before, she and those of her ilk are merely the D's Tea Party. 

At least on the face of it early on, that seemed to be the case. What seems to be interesting is this group is they seem to be driving the party to the left. Many of the 147 D candidates for pres seem to be echoing a lot of their ideas. I also get a strong sense that VOC and some of her ilk are starting to annoy some of the D leadership, which ultimately could lead to their demise politically. Say what you want about Nancy Pelosi, but she still wields a lot of power. 

Moving into the 2020 race, I see a lot of jockeying for position with everyone trying to veer farther left and out left everyone else. They need to remember that Joe Sixpack voter is not the dude that elected VOC into office, you have to play to the masses in flyover country, the left is going to win in NY, CA, etc., areas where these leftist ideas play well,  but those states don't determine national elections. Personally I think the left are setting themselves up to fail. They still don't understand why Trump is president, and continue to do everything in their power to see that he gets elected again. 

[Muda69]

Ocasio-Cortez Is A Fraud Through And Through: https://www.dailywire.com/news/45749/knowles-ocasio-cortez-fraud-through-and-through-daily-wire

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On Monday’s episode of "The Michael Knowles Show," the host discusses Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s attempt to pander to an audience by mimicking a stereotyped accent. Knowles suggests this is yet more evidence that the freshman New York lawmaker is a "fraud." Transcript and video below.

She says she's "code-switching." Which code is she switching to? She's not code-switching, and she is not reverting back to her authentic accent. She is performing a caricature of what she thinks a Southern black drawl sounds like, and it sounds nearly as fake as when Hillary Clinton did it. And then what does she do? She immediately refers to her allegedly hardscrabble upbringing and her false claim that she grew up in the Bronx. This is a lie. On her campaign website in 2018, she said that her life was defined by the forty-minute commute between her family in the Bronx and school in the suburbs. Not true. In the state of New York, you don't just get to commute from a bad neighborhood in the Bronx to whatever public school you want to go to upstate.

That's not how it works. You get districted into your school. If that were the case everybody in a bad school district in the city would just commute up to the suburbs. She did not commute — she lived there. She lived there from the age of five all the way until 2016, according to Westchester land records. According to Westchester County land records, until a year or two before she ran for Congress, from Queens, she lived with her parents not just in Westchester but in a very ritzy part of northern Westchester. That is not her upbringing. It's not being weaponized against her.

The only thing that is being used as a weapon against her is her obvious lie about where she comes from. Some people have said to me "Michael, stop it. Don't talk about her obvious fraud and just talk about the craziness of her proposals." No. This is a bad idea. You have to point out that she is a fraud through and through.

There's this conspiracy theory, it's sort of half a conspiracy theory, that AOC was cast in the role of being a congressional candidate and that actually she's just an actress. This is half true, in so much as she did audition for a political action committee, which were her, and remain still to this day, her backers and her political career. It doesn't mean she's just an actress and she might have had an interest in politics, and the difference between politics and show business gets blurry sometimes.

But it's so important to focus on this fraud because this is what she always goes back to. She says, "You're just attacking me because I grew up in and in an underprivileged environment. You're just going after me because I'm from the Bronx. You're just going after me because I don't know how to use the English language properly because I grew up in this bad neighborhood in the Bronx and we had bad schooling." No.

The way to expose all of those lies, to cut off all of her defenses at the knees, is to point out that she is a total fraud through and through.

She, for her entire conscious life, grew up in an extremely wealthy privileged area of Westchester County. She attended a very good school district Yorktown High School. She then went to a very expensive private college in Massachusetts, Boston University, which costs seventy-two thousand dollars per year to attend. She then moved right back to her mother's house after college and lived there until basically, she decided to run for Congress. She had as privileged an upbringing as you can possibly have on Earth. In the grand scheme of all of human history, virtually nobody has had a more privileged upbringing than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She was taught the English language perfectly well. She does not have a southern drawl, a cartoon drawl, that she thinks is going to pander to her audience. It's just a lie.

 

[swordfish]

Nancy Pelosi regarding AOC.....

“Those are districts that are solidly Democratic – this glass of whatever would win with a D next to its name in those districts."

[gonzoron]

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

Nancy Pelosi regarding AOC.....

“Those are districts that are solidly Democratic – this glass of whatever would win with a D next to its name in those districts."

Same with R in Indiana.

[swordfish]

[swordfish]

Don't forget the current South Bend mayor running for the Democrat nomination.......

[BARRYOSAMA]

1 hour ago, TrojanDad said:

Yet the Bayh's, O'Bannon's and Kernan's defied the odds.....

Didn't we recently have a Dem Senator??  

DINOs

[gonzoron]

8 hours ago, BARRYOSAMA said:

DINOs

And not Congressmen. Apples to oranges.

[gonzoron]

[swordfish]

Now that's funny right there......

[swordfish]

https://www.hannity.com/media-room/not-a-drill-ocasio-cortez-stunned-by-her-own-garden-says-food-that-comes-from-dirt-is-magic/?fbclid=IwAR0VwZswmZgNbTGfZnADU62tRq31V4yheTcwnD2IbX9xl9DXHabfGjK3a_I

Controversial Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez left millions of Americans scratching their heads this week; saying she was “shook” and stunned by her own garden and declaring “food that comes out of the dirt” is “like magic.”

“Look! Oh my god, look at this! I am shook. Honestly, gardening, food that comes out of dirt, it’s like magic. The tomatoes died though… This is so exciting!” said Ocasio-Cortez in her video.

SF truly thought this was a put-on, but watch the video........She seemed amazed that she was able to grow food.....IN THE DIRT......OMG!!!!

[Muda69]

16 minutes ago, swordfish said:

SF truly thought this was a put-on, but watch the video........She seemed amazed that she was able to grow food.....IN THE DIRT......OMG!!!!

Meh, she's a city kid, not a country kid. Millions more like her out there.

 

[DanteEstonia]

On 4/22/2019 at 9:18 AM, TrojanDad said:

LOL....oh...only representatives now?  Because senators and governors don't have significant influence?

Currently, 2/7 (29%) of Indiana's 9 districts are democrat.  

check out this link.....certainly periods of time (early 1990's...mid 2007-11 etc.) where the Dems had the majority of US Rep positions  from Indiana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_delegations_from_Indiana#United_States_House_of_Representatives

Earn it back....

No point in campaigning on dead soil.

[swordfish]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ocasio-cortez-on-discovering-garbage-disposals-it-is-terrifying-2019-05-07

‘I am told this is a garbage disposal. I’ve never seen a garbage disposal. I never had one in any place I’ve ever lived. It is terrifying. I don’t know what it’s for, or what its purpose is. Like, food scraps? Like, is this environmentally sound?’  More importantly - why is it so loud and yelling at me?

Are we really supposed to believe she is this stupid?  She went to college, She worked in a bar - and has never seen a garbage disposal?

[Muda69]

Twitter Suspends Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Parody Account for 'Spammy Behavior,' Which Seems Dubious: https://reason.com/2019/05/07/aoc-twitter-parody-banned-spam-rules/

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Twitter has banned a parody account that made fun of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–NY), as well as the account's creator and operator, Michael Morrison.

Parody accounts are permitted on Twitter as long as they are clearly identified as such. This account, @AOCPress, obeyed that rule, and its termination has prompted conservatives to accuse the platform of hypocrisy. They have a point.

The official reason for removing the accounts was "spammy behavior."

"While you may use Twitter pseudonymously or as a parody, commentary, or fan account, you may not use misleading account information in order to engage in spammy, abusive, or disruptive behavior, including attempts to manipulate the conversations on Twitter," according to Twitter's official rules.

A person familiar with the situation told Reason that several accounts appeared to be pushing the same information in a coordinated matter and that this violates the "spammy behavior" policy.

Looking very closely at Twitter's policy, the platform does prohibit "posting duplicate or very similar content across multiple accounts" and "creating duplicate or very similar accounts; or creating fake accounts, impressions or account interactions (such as followers, Retweets, likes, etc.)."

If I am understanding these rules correctly, they mean that it is okay to have a fake account or a parody account, but if a user tweets similar content on their real account and their fake account, this crosses some sort of line.

Since both Morrison's Twitter feed and @AOCPress's Twitter feed have been vaporized, I can't tell if there was significant overlap between the two. But it seems somewhat dubious to apply the rules in a manner that punishes clearly-defined parody content. And if the problem was Morrison's feed, why is @AOCPress gone as well?

As I always point out when I write about these issues, Twitter is a private entity and may ban users in accordance with whatever principles they can think up. But the company should make a better effort to communicate what kinds of behavior are forbidden and then apply those rules fairly.

Uneven enforcement (like this) increases the perception that the company is targeting conservatives, and emboldens Republican legislators to call for regulating Big Tech. We should all oppose these regulations on First Amendment grounds, but it's hard to keep conservatives on board so long as Twitter applies its rules to the letter against the conservative-operated @AOCPress, while completely failing to, say, address an attempted doxing by a Democratic lawmaker.

...

 

[swordfish]

[swordfish]

Sarcasm?  I thought she was kidding about the 12 years thing and all.......

https://www.chicksonright.com/opinion/2019/05/14/days-after-claiming-she-was-kidding-ocasio-cortez-goes-on-unhinged-rant-about-end-of-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR1CMe-hucCHu-Cxe9h4CCA8i6Lsv84xj61TqWrdgg35-qUmzrfaUA7DGT0

Pontificating at a Green New Deal rally on Monday, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), who just claimed on Sunday that her apocalyptic prediction in January that the world would end in 12 years unless serious action was taken to combat climate change had just been “dry humor,” suddenly returned to her climate change hysteria, stating CO2 levels had reached the highest levels in recorded history and the last time the levels were this high “bacteria and diseases we have never seen before roamed the Earth.”

So… is that a joke? Orrr?

Ocasio-Cortez ranted, “It was reported today that this weekend for the first time in human history we have reached atmospheric levels of carbon at 415 parts per million. This has never been seen in recorded human history. In fact meteorologist Eric Holthaus and journalist said simply about this measurement, ‘We do not know a planet like this.’ The last time our planet hit 415 we were in the Pliocene period. Oceans were 90 feet higher. Bacteria and diseases we have never seen before roamed the Earth. Humans did not exist. We have never seen a planet like this. And a planet like this is exactly what we are going to get, and it is exactly what we are going to inherit from previous generations if we do not act positively now.”