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1 hour ago, Impartial_Observer said:

More stuff from The Green Dream:

 

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I’m curious, is VOC drinking urine? I mean as the leader of the revolution, I’m sure she’s leading by example.

It's a great survival tip in case of apocalypse, shipwreck or stranded in a Moscow hotel room with a hooker, but I'm not sure I'd practice it every day.

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 2:26 PM, Muda69 said:

Confiscating all of the wealth in the country is a start, you see. Then we kill all the cows. Then we tear down all the buildings. Then when everyone is broke and homeless and starving, we can figure out where to go from there. A flawless plan, you must agree.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.

 

On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 8:32 PM, Impartial_Observer said:

Does she have any idea how the vast majority of our electricity is generated?

California has been build a high speed rail for how many years? It’s how many years behind schedule and how many billion over budget?

Seems foolproof to me, hence I shall call her Venezuela Ocasio-Cortez.

Lastly is she even attempts to take my beef, it’s gonna bo on like Donkey Kong!

I can see it now. The gubmint shows up to your house to confiscate all of your beef. You then threaten them with your shotgun while wearing a MAGA hat, chewing some Skoal Wintergreen, and wearing a pair of boxers.

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36 minutes ago, AG said:

I can see it now. The gubmint shows up to your house to confiscate all of your beef. You then threaten them with your shotgun while wearing a MAGA hat, chewing some Skoal Wintergreen, and wearing a pair of boxers.

You’re obviously a vegan, I weep for you.

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1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

AOC has done more at 28 than what any of you will ever accomplish in your lives.

You’ve acquired a sense of humor, who are you and what have you done with DE?

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4 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

You’ve acquired a sense of humor, who are you and what have you done with DE?

I’m filling in while DE deflowers your daughter. 

Lol, kidding. Beastiality is a sin.

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7 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

You’re obviously a vegan, I weep for you.

I need the cow farts to keep my garden growing and now your tears can help water it.

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20 hours ago, gonzoron said:

It's a great survival tip in case of apocalypse,

And the ultimate end result of socialism.

 

21 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

AOC has done more at 28 than what any of you will ever accomplish in your lives.

Including you Dante?   And why should being a U.S. Representative be viewed as such a great accomplishment?

 

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20 hours ago, AG said:

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.

The main conspiracy I see is the one attempting to be perpetrated on the American public by VOC and her followers.

 

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2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

The main conspiracy I see is the one attempting to be perpetrated on the American public by VOC and her followers.

 

22 hours ago, AG said:

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.

Mission Accomplished. 

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On 2/9/2019 at 9:21 AM, Impartial_Observer said:

More stuff from The Green Dream:

 

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I’m curious, is VOC drinking urine? I mean as the leader of the revolution, I’m sure she’s leading by example.

Appears to be a hoax enabled by one of Howe's favorite, believable "media sources" Mark Dice and furthered by several others.

https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470170-green-new-deal-urine.html

For those interested in the details of the actual Green New Deal: https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/08/heres-the-full-text-of-congress-green-new-deal-resolution-introduced-by-rep-alexandra-ocasio-cortez/?fbclid=IwAR0RXSJZf37BKsu6BHg53lqAuwDs_bdXRugzDrSzsQI9OFJPnE3MuE37Fjk

 

 

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17 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Appears to be a hoax enabled by one of Howe's favorite, believable "media sources" Mark Dice and furthered by several others.

https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470170-green-new-deal-urine.html

For those interested in the details of the actual Green New Deal: https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/08/heres-the-full-text-of-congress-green-new-deal-resolution-introduced-by-rep-alexandra-ocasio-cortez/?fbclid=IwAR0RXSJZf37BKsu6BHg53lqAuwDs_bdXRugzDrSzsQI9OFJPnE3MuE37Fjk

 

 

But of course it wasn't questioned by any of her opponents on here. How convenient.

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7 hours ago, gonzoron said:

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1. Define "affordable healthcare".

2.  Define "good job".

3. Elaborate on how votes cast somehow "don't count" in the current political process.

4. We can mostly agree on this.  Get rid of most regulations, and by reducing the size and power of government you reduce the influence of crony capitalism.

5. Define "pay their share".

 

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On 2/9/2019 at 10:45 AM, gonzoron said:

It's a great survival tip in case of apocalypse, shipwreck or stranded in a Moscow hotel room with a hooker, but I'm not sure I'd practice it every day.

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17 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

1. Define "affordable healthcare".

2.  Define "good job".

3. Elaborate on how votes cast somehow "don't count" in the current political process.

4. We can mostly agree on this.  Get rid of most regulations, and by reducing the size and power of government you reduce the influence of crony capitalism.

5. Define "pay their share".

 

1. Healthcare that's at fair market value. Not inflated by a third party administrator.

2. Mine. I already have one.

3. They count, they just don't mean anything. Our government is controlled by Corporations

5. flat tax

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4 hours ago, AG said:

But of course it wasn't questioned by any of her opponents on here. How convenient.

I couldn’t, it was pulled off of her website in pretty short order.  

7 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

She’s the kind of thing my family would have owned at one point.

So your family were slave owners?

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On 2/9/2019 at 10:45 AM, gonzoron said:

It's a great survival tip in case of apocalypse, shipwreck or stranded in a Moscow hotel room with a hooker, but I'm not sure I'd practice it every day.

I live in a river valley that the last time I checked was about 6’ above flood stage, I’m good.

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6 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

I couldn’t, it was pulled off of her website in pretty short order.  

You copied that tweet from her website?

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45 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

I couldn’t, it was pulled off of her website in pretty short order.  

So your family were slave owners?

You should have questioned it because it is sheer ridiculousness. 

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11 hours ago, gonzoron said:

You copied that tweet from her website?

It was posted on Twitter. I looked for the actual proposal briefly, couldn’t find it. 

 

10 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

Serfs, and then cattle.

I’m not following, what makes you think she’s a serf or a cow? Or that a skinny, bald, 30 something would have a shot to begin with?

 

10 hours ago, AG said:

You should have questioned it because it is sheer ridiculousness. 

Based on most of it, it seemed almost ridiculous enough to be true.

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14 hours ago, gonzoron said:

1. Healthcare that's at fair market value. Not inflated by a third party administrator.

2. Mine. I already have one.

3. They count, they just don't mean anything. Our government is controlled by Corporations

5. flat tax

1.  Agreed.  We can do this by getting government out of the health care business entirely.  That means medicare and medicaid.

2. So everybody can work the same job as you do?

3. You mean the candidates are effectively controlled by Corporations either before they are elected or soon after?  That may be the case;  see my response to your original point #4 as a solution.

5.  There are different flavors of a flat tax.  Which one(s) do you advocate?

 

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Netflix Paying $10 Million for Ocasio-Cortez Campaign Documentary. Isn't the Free Market Great?: http://reason.com/blog/2019/02/08/netflix-paying-10-million-for-ocasio-cor

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Deadline has broken the news that Netflix is paying $10 million for the rights to distribute Knock Down the House, a documentary that follows the campaigns of four women running against incumbents. One of the women is Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.).

The film was apparently the darling of this year's Sundance Film Festival, which wrapped up last weekend. It won the Festival Favorite Award, beating out more than 100 other candidates. Deadline says this appears to be the biggest documentary deal ever hammered out at a film festival.

There will, no doubt, be all sorts of jokes about how a documentary partly about a socialist is benefitting immensely from a massive capitalist company. But keep in mind that the deal isn't with her; it's with the filmmakers. And she's not the only person the movie's about, even if she's the only one who has become a household name.

What I do want to point out is that Deadline's coverage of this documentary about four progressive candidates does not include the phrase "Citizens United." But it's the Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United v. FEC which makes it clear that no government forces can censor Netflix from showing the documentary however and whenever it wants.

Ocasio-Cortez hates the Citizens United decision and wants a constitutional amendment overturning it. This has been a pretty steadfast position among Democrats: They believe the Citizens United decision has ushered in an era of "dark money" and of massive, manipulative mega-corporations buying elections.

All of that fundamentally ignores what the Citizens United case actually involved—an attempt, just before the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, to censor advertisements for a documentary critical of Hillary Clinton. It was a case about censoring the media.

Prior to the Citizens United ruling, it still would have been perfectly fine for Sundance to have shown Knock Down the House. The law that was being challenged banned certain types of political communications close to elections. The ruling guaranteed that Netflix can air this documentary whenever it wants, even close to Ocasio-Cortez's next election race.

And that's good! Prior to this Supreme Court decision, the law was being used to censor what the media could and could not do. That makes anger at the decision, particularly from challengers facing uphill battles, all the more confusing. Laws that limit campaign spending and the ability to get support from outside the political parties ultimately benefit entrenched incumbents, who have legislative history and lots of simple political inertia on their sides. It's the challengers who desperately need of financial support and avenues to increase the reach of their messages. It's really, really hard to beat incumbents. Challengers like the ones in Knock Down the House.

Ocasio-Cortez has benefited greatly from press coverage—both positive and negative—and that coverage most certainly played a role in her win. Tellingly, when people on the left talk about the money that comes in to help candidates in getting their message across, they bring up "big oil" and "big pharma" but tend to leave out Hollywood and the media. (Conservatives do bring it up, of course. They yell it from the rooftops.)

Should Netflix be allowed to air this documentary come 2020 when Ocasio-Cortez is looking to get re-elected? Yes, absolutely. Does the information in the documentary magically become more sinister and a threat to democracy now that $10 million is changing hands to make sure people can view it? Absolutely not. That money doesn't magically transform into votes. The candidate still needs to make her case. It's just that enough people like her message that they're willing to spend lots of money to provide the megaphone. That's known as the marketplace of ideas, and we need it for a functioning democracy.

Bingo.

 

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