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Alexandria Ocasoi-Cortez - Needs her own thread.....

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3 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

I’m not following, what makes you think she’s a serf or a cow?

The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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43 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

I just read through this topic; in my mind attacking someone's family or daughter; especially when none of them even know you or have ever said a thing to you, should be off limits. As someone with no dog in the fight, you have gone WAY over the line of what is acceptable. Disagree with IO all day long; take shots at him, and let it go back and forth; but bringing his daughter into it and to continue attacking her is pretty low.

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Just now, Irishman said:

I just read through this topic; in my mind attacking someone's family or daughter; especially when none of them even know you or have ever said a thing to you, should be off limits. As someone with no dog in the fight, you have gone WAY over the line of what is acceptable. Disagree with IO all day long; take shots at him, and let it go back and forth; but bringing his daughter into it and to continue attacking her is pretty low.

It's pretty funny for those who know my daughter. DE has a hard on for me, and thinks he can get a rise out of me by attacking my daughter. I consider the source and move on. Just words from a keyboard warrior. 

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

2. So everybody can work the same job as you do?

No. Very few can. As evidenced by turnover rate of new hires recently. 

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1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

No. Very few can. As evidenced by turnover rate of new hires recently. 

Yet you appear to want everybody to get paid at least the same amount as you.  Shouldn't a job with specialized skills and/or responsibilities be valued more highly in the free market?

 

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31 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Yet you appear to want everybody to get paid at least the same amount as you.  Shouldn't a job with specialized skills and/or responsibilities be valued more highly in the free market?

 

Show me where I’ve ever said anything even remotely close to that? 

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7 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Show me where I’ve ever said anything even remotely close to that? 

You definition of a "good job"

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2. Mine. I already have one.

 

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41 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

You definition of a "good job"

 

I fail to see how that translates to your interpretation. Try again. Or better yet, don’t.

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3 hours ago, Irishman said:

I just read through this topic; in my mind attacking someone's family or daughter; especially when none of them even know you or have ever said a thing to you, should be off limits. As someone with no dog in the fight, you have gone WAY over the line of what is acceptable. Disagree with IO all day long; take shots at him, and let it go back and forth; but bringing his daughter into it and to continue attacking her is pretty low.

He attacks me on a personal level, and I am going to attack back at the most personal level that I can attack.

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7 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I fail to see how that translates to your interpretation. Try again. Or better yet, don’t.

I can see how you fail.   Drawing obvious conclusions isn't your strength,  just obvious obfuscation and trolling.

That said,  can you please list all attributes that make your current job a "good job"?

 

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32 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

He attacks me on a personal level, and I am going to attack back at the most personal level that I can attack.

I even said in my post, you attack him and he attacks you...ok. But bringing family into is the issue. If you see an equivalence to you two attacking each other and you attacking his daughter, then you should take some time to rethink some things. You are an intelligent person, and attacking her goes beyond the point of cringing. It’s embarrassing. 

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32 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

I can see how you fail.   Drawing obvious conclusions isn't your strength,  just obvious obfuscation and trolling.

That said,  can you please list all attributes that make your current job a "good job"?

 

Yes, I can list them. 

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3 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Yes, I can list them. 

Then I humbly request that you share them, so we can all benefit from knowing what a "good job" truly is.

 

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal Is a Radical Front for Nationalizing Our Economy: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-front-nationalizing-our

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Details of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s long-awaited Green New Deal have dropped. On Thursday, alongside Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts, she published a resolution and Q&A document that laid out the aims and tools intended to transform the United States into a zero net emissions economy.

At least, that’s how it was sold.

Delve into the text, and the climate change-curbing veneer amounts to a Trojan horse for a bigger nationalization of the economy than seen under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The sponsors themselves say their goal is the “massive transformationof our society” in a progressive image, rather than simply stopping global warming.

How else can one explain policies that include a federal jobs guarantee, economic security for those unable to work, provision of housing, free health care, higher education for all and a family living wage? Besides the plan’s calls for electrifying the whole transport system and undertaking a crippling federal financing of renewable energy over 10 years, it reads like a wish list for socializing the economy.

It is hard to make a good faith critique of this plan, because it features a nearly complete denial of trade-offs or costs. This is surprising given that Ocasio-Cortez herself has a degree in economics, for which the study of trade-offs is the basis.

Take the environmental policy proposals, for example.Most Americans believe that climate change is happening, is influenced by human activity and has social costs. The idea that private action alone cannot overcome this, and governments must act, is a reasonable view.

The cost of going ‘green’

But even in some parallel universe where it was possible to implement an agenda that would replace the whole country’s energy supply with government-financed renewables, refurbish every building to improve energy efficiency, eliminate gas burning cars, build extensive high-speed rail and cut the number of flights and cows to near zero, the cost would be astronomical.

Previous estimates from Stanford engineers of meeting power demand through clean, renewable zero-emission energy sources put capital costs at $14.6 trillion (almost three-quarters of current annual GDP). The running costs, coupled with all the other environmental programs, would therefore take up a huge chunk of economic resources, effectively cutting vast private sector activity.

That’s why the resolution seeks to mobilize society as in World War II, which Ocasio-Cortez claims is the appropriate analogy.If the nation can be convinced the overwhelming social goal is countering the existential threat of climate change at all costs, then people would be willing to make sacrifices - be it lost economic growth, fewer flights or less beef.

Yet it’s difficult to make that case when you then tack on a myriad of unrelated policies to the program. According to the resolution, decarbonization must also be supported by a massive expansion of social spending. Ocasio-Cortez’s plan suggests it’s not true that we must take a hit today to ensure the planet’s future — according to this we’ll be richer too!

Just to ram home the absence of trade-offs, we are also told this will be financed by printed money. Ocasio-Cortez subscribes to the view that governments can apparently spend and spend forever, with the only constraint being the capacity of the economy. Yet, even under the crank Modern Monetary Theory model that recommends this, inflation will surely result from so much new government spending.

By investing in inefficient energy sources and taking labor and capital away from productive industries, economic capacity will shrink as well - making this outcome more likely.

Ordinarily, a pitch to put society on a war footing to adopt expensive power sources, restrict people’s ability to fly and eat what they want, and redistribute vast new sums of printed money would be considered politically bonkers. Yet remarkably, Democratic presidential candidates, including Sens. Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand, have endorsed this resolution.

It’s easy to think they’ve lost their minds. But maybe they’ve noted that it’s easy to label those who disagree on climate policy as being “deniers” of science itself. By tagging this a “Green New Deal,” Democrats can shift debate toward radical unrelated positions, denouncing those who oppose them as wanting to kill the planet itself.

Make no mistake, this green-painted Trojan horse is filled with the biggest single government expansion the United States has seen since the 1930s.

 

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1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal Is a Radical Front for Nationalizing Our Economy: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-front-nationalizing-our

 

If everyone is so concerned about their children and grandchildren’s future, shouldn’t all of these old codgers step out of the way and let them decide their OWN future? 

 

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32 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

If everyone is so concerned about their children and grandchildren’s future, shouldn’t all of these old codgers step out of the way and let them decide their OWN future? 

 

The lust for power keeps them in office. And the need to maintain the status quo.

 

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32 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

If everyone is so concerned about their children and grandchildren’s future, shouldn’t all of these old codgers step out of the way and let them decide their OWN future? 

 

Yeah - because socialism worked so well for Venezuela....

 

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9 hours ago, swordfish said:

Yeah - because socialism worked so well for Venezuela....

 

Is that what happened in Venezuela? Old men quit politics and let the young folks decide their future?

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10 hours ago, swordfish said:

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Too bad that Mitch couldn't find time to bring up a single vote toward ending the shutdown.  Really a shame that a man with a supposed 38% approval and a 47% disapproval rating in his state has such a likelihood of being re-elected.

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On 2/9/2019 at 4:12 PM, DanteEstonia said:

I’m filling in while DE deflowers your daughter. 

Lol, kidding. Beastiality is a sin.

you are spineless Dante....you would never in a million years have the courage to say that to IO's face.

I hope you never reproduce....but if you do, one day as a Father you might get how out of bounds a comment like your's is....blatant immaturity and poor taste.

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On 2/11/2019 at 3:09 PM, Irishman said:

I even said in my post, you attack him and he attacks you...ok. But bringing family into is the issue. If you see an equivalence to you two attacking each other and you attacking his daughter, then you should take some time to rethink some things. You are an intelligent person, and attacking her goes beyond the point of cringing. It’s embarrassing. 

We disagree on the first comment in bold...but align on the 2nd one.  Attacking the daughter of someone, especially behind the safety of a keyboard, is the polar opposite of being a man.

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Happy Valentines Day!

 

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