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Circle City Conference Games on tap:

Guerin Catholic (6-1) at Indianapolis Chatard (3-4) (game played at Tech)
Decatur Central (6-1) at Indianapolis Roncalli (7-0)
Indianapolis Cathedral (5-2) at Brebeuf Jesuit (3-4)
Indianapolis Howe (3-4) at Heritage Christian (3-3)

 

Other Games of Interest:

Indianapolis Scecina (6-1) at Indianapolis Ritter (3-4)
East Noble (5-1) at New Haven (6-0)
Evansville Memorial (4-3) at Evansville Harrison (4-3)
Mishawaka Marian (7-0) at Mishawaka (6-1)

 

This Week's Special Challenge:
Pike (0-7) at North Central (Indianapolis) (0-7)
 

Thoughts:

  • Guerin at Chatard this week provides a big preview of Sectional 29.
  • If Chatard wins, Roncalli will be the first CCC football champions.
  • If Guerin wins, they will be tied with Roncalli for lead in the year 1 conference championship. Conference champion will then be determined when Guerin plays Roncalli next week.
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Circle City Conference Games on tap:

Guerin Catholic (6-1) at Indianapolis Chatard (3-4) (game played at Tech)
Decatur Central (6-1) at Indianapolis Roncalli (7-0)
Indianapolis Cathedral (5-2) at Brebeuf Jesuit (3-4)
Indianapolis Howe (3-4) at Heritage Christian (3-3)

 

Other Games of Interest:

Indianapolis Scecina (6-1) at Indianapolis Ritter (3-4)
East Noble (5-1) at New Haven (6-0)
Evansville Memorial (4-3) at Evansville Harrison (4-3)
Mishawaka Marian (7-0) at Mishawaka (6-1)

 

This Week's Special Challenge:
Pike (0-7) at North Central (Indianapolis) (0-7)

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Guerin Catholic (6-1) at Indianapolis Chatard (3-4) (...My head says Chatard, but gotta pick Guerin...)
Decatur Central (6-1) at Indianapolis Roncalli (7-0)
Indianapolis Cathedral (5-2) at Brebeuf Jesuit (3-4)
Indianapolis Howe (3-4) at Heritage Christian (3-3)
Indianapolis Scecina (6-1) at Indianapolis Ritter (3-4)
East Noble (5-1) at New Haven (6-0)
Evansville Memorial (4-3) at Evansville Harrison (4-3)
Mishawaka Marian (7-0) at Mishawaka (6-1)
Pike (0-7) at North Central (Indianapolis) (0-7)
 

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On 10/2/2016 at 10:10 AM, FooBird said:

Thoughts:

  • If Chatard wins, Roncalli will be the first CCC football champions.
  • If Guerin wins, they will be tied with Roncalli for lead in the year 1 conference championship. Conference champion will then be determined when Guerin plays Roncalli next week.

Even if Guerin loses to Chatard, can't they still win the conference by defeating Roncalli? Both teams would be 2-1 in the conference in that scenario, as would Chatard. What's the tiebreaker in that situation?

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4 hours ago, dlauck28 said:

Even if Guerin loses to Chatard, can't they still win the conference by defeating Roncalli? Both teams would be 2-1 in the conference in that scenario, as would Chatard. What's the tiebreaker in that situation?

Didn't think of that, but you are absolutely correct...  it's theoretically possible that Guerin could lose to Chatard and then beat Roncalli. Seems pretty improbable, but certainly possible. I'm not sure if the tie breaker is overall W/L record, head-to-head or points for / against. In theory,  Might also require Roncalli to lose to Decatur Central this week if overall record is the first tie-breaker. The bylaws of the conference may also allow co-champions... not sure.

 

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Roncalli is beatable.  They caught Chatard asleep for 1 long passing TD and then they held Chatard at the 5 yd line for 4 straight plays to seal the win.  Lots of respect for the Rebels but Guerin could absolutely win that game.

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Chatard

Roncalli

Cathedral

Howe

Scecina

New Haven

Evansville Harrison

Mishawaka

North Central

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Bishop Chatard

Roncalli

Cathedral

Howe

Scecina

New Haven

Evansville Memorial

Marian

Pike

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Circle City Conference Games on tap:

Guerin Catholic (6-1) at Indianapolis Chatard (3-4) (game played at Tech)
Decatur Central (6-1) at Indianapolis Roncalli (7-0)
Indianapolis Cathedral (5-2) at Brebeuf Jesuit (3-4)
Indianapolis Howe (3-4) at Heritage Christian (3-3)

 

Other Games of Interest:

Indianapolis Scecina (6-1) at Indianapolis Ritter (3-4)
East Noble (5-1) at New Haven (6-0)
Evansville Memorial (4-3) at Evansville Harrison (4-3)
Mishawaka Marian (7-0) at Mishawaka (6-1)

 

This Week's Special Challenge:
Pike (0-7) at North Central (Indianapolis) (0-7)

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I am pretty sure, though not absolutely, that most conferences in Indiana, that haven't split their conferences and actually have a play off game for the 9th game of the season, all allow Co-Champions.

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Guerin Catholic (6-1) at Indianapolis Chatard (3-4) (game played at Tech)
Decatur Central (6-1) at Indianapolis Roncalli (7-0)
Indianapolis Cathedral (5-2) at Brebeuf Jesuit (3-4)
Indianapolis Howe (3-4) at Heritage Christian (3-3)

 

Other Games of Interest:

Indianapolis Scecina (6-1) at Indianapolis Ritter (3-4)
East Noble (5-1) at New Haven (6-0)
Evansville Memorial (4-3) at Evansville Harrison (4-3)
Mishawaka Marian (7-0) at Mishawaka (6-1)

 

This Week's Special Challenge:
Pike (0-7) at North Central (Indianapolis) (0-7)

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Results:

Guerin Catholic    31    Indianapolis Chatard    17
Indianapolis Roncalli    43    Decatur Central    25
Brebeuf Jesuit    24    Indianapolis Cathedral    17    
Indianapolis Howe    31    Heritage Christian    25
Indianapolis Ritter    21    Indianapolis Scecina    18    
New Haven    55    East Noble    21    
Evansville Memorial    51    Evansville Harrison    14    
Mishawaka    26    Mishawaka Marian    14    
North Central (Indianapolis)    42    Pike    35    

 

Updated CCC Standings:

School Conf WIns Conf Loss Wins Losses Sagarin CalPreps SOS
Roncalli 2 0 8 0 81.86 46.2 26.9
Guerin Catholic 2 0 7 1 72.10 34.9 12.1
Bishop Chatard 1 2 3 5 76.83 32.4 38.2
Brebeuf Jesuit 0 3 4 4 76.33 29.4 28.6

* Note: SOS used above is from CALPREPS, not Harrell / Sagarin. Sagarin does not accurately measure Chatard's out-of-state matchups.

 

Thoughts:

  • Big wins by Brebeuf, Guerin and Roncalli.
  • No discussion of tie-breakers is needed... Roncalli will now play at Guerin next Friday to determine the first ever CCC championship straight up.
  • The Sectional 29 picture becomes even more heated... at this point, I'm not sure how you would pick a favorite between Chatard, Brebeuf and Guerin. (And don't count out Tri-Wiest).
  • Brebeuf and Guerin appear today to be better versions of the squads that lost to Chatard 3-23 in week 1 (brebeuf) and Central Catholic 13-34 in week 2 (guerin).
  • The Guerin-Chatard game was closer than the score might imply. Guerin looked to be barely hanging on in the first half and then dominant in the second half. It's unclear what a second matchup between the two teams would bring.
  • Usually a big fan of the sagarin, I'm befuddled how a Guerin team that has beaten Chatard and Brebeuf in the last two weeks has a lower Sag score (72.1) than those two teams (both around 76). Seems strange.
  • I asked a compelling question last week and didn't get any bites, so I'll give it another crack... does anybody think that 1A Lafayette Central Catholic couldn't beat Chatard or Brebeuf? Pretty amazing. 

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Wrong change made there,  Way to make me eat that change Roncalli. That will teach me next time.

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On ‎10‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 0:30 PM, FooBird said:

 

  • Usually a big fan of the sagarin, I'm befuddled how a Guerin team that has beaten Chatard and Brebeuf in the last two weeks has a lower Sag score (72.1) than those two teams (both around 76). Seems strange.
  • I asked a compelling question last week and didn't get any bites, so I'll give it another crack... does anybody think that 1A Lafayette Central Catholic couldn't beat Chatard or Brebeuf? Pretty amazing. 

Sagarin seems to have not ranked Guerin correctly the last couple of years.

Although, I am generally not keen to say the winner of one class could beat the winner of another, I actually think LCC could quite possibly win 3A.  Ironically, I'm not sure if they are as good as last year, but then, I'm not sure 3A is as good as last year either.

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It looks to me that 3a is wide open this yr and ther very well could b two new faces at LOS

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On 10/14/2016 at 1:56 AM, Lysander said:

Sagarin seems to have not ranked Guerin correctly the last couple of years.

Although, I am generally not keen to say the winner of one class could beat the winner of another, I actually think LCC could quite possibly win 3A.  Ironically, I'm not sure if they are as good as last year, but then, I'm not sure 3A is as good as last year either.

LCC is different this year.  The defense still swarms and does a great job containing the run.  Pass coverage can use some shoring up.  Defense is solid, but in a much less flashy way than last season.  Offensively, LCC's passing game is better than it was last season.  Denhart's much more dangerous back there and he has extreme depth and breadth in the the receiving corps.  Running situation tends to be by committee and, while it's nothing like it was under the Anthrop reigns, it tends to be effective enough.  You won't be talking about 100-yard games from backs and you might only see 80 yards on the ground between two backs, but when you look at the play-by-play, you'll see that, while they had 25 carries between the three backs, they were responsible for picking up crucial on-the-ground 3rd down conversions that led to 3-4 passing TDs within the next couple of plays.

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