Bash Riprock Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Wondering about Chris Creighton at Eastern Michigan? Before he took the program over, EMU was a doormat in the MAC. Being a former Wabash coach, he may have some ties to the Hoosier State. Another possibility?? Curt Cignetti has built a super strong program at James Madison, moving them from FCS to FBS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komets2727 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Bash Riprock said: Wondering about Chris Creighton at Eastern Michigan? Before he took the program over, EMU was a doormat in the MAC. Being a former Wabash coach, he may have some ties to the Hoosier State. Another possibility?? Curt Cignetti has built a super strong program at James Madison, moving them from FCS to FBS. IU is an upgrade? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: IU is an upgrade? Great question...probably in terms of salary. Can always negotiate an Allen separation payment with the admin yo-yo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BTF said: Players entering the transfer portal dominating the headlines. It's absurd. Total fail for the NCAA to allow this to happen. Universities should now be able to eliminate a player on their own accord if said player doesn't perform up to expectations. Tit for tat. they can, most scholarships are for 1 year to 1 year. Not common, and cannot happen until the academic school year is over https://athleticollege.com/8-ways-a-coach-can-take-away-your-athletic-scholarship/ Quote 7) Not Performing Well This has the same applications as the injury rule: a coach cannot cancel your scholarship during an established scholarship period due to “ a student-athlete’s athletic ability, performance or contribution to a team’s success.” Power 5 rules establish that a coach cannot consider that when it comes time to decide to renew a scholarship or not. So if you get a one-year athletic scholarship, work extremely hard, but still are not able to make the starting team, a coach from a Power 5 school cannot technically reduce or cancel your scholarship because of that. Once again, some coaches might be able to find a loophole and still take your money away from you. 😎 New Coach – FOR ALL SCHOOLS At the end of the day, a coach is the one responsible to make the final decision of how much (and if) an athlete will receive a scholarship. What happens sometimes is that Coach X will bring you in and promise you a certain amount of money for each year. Then, for some reason, that Coach is fired or resigns and Coach Y is hired. Coach Y might not see the same potential in you, not like your attitude, or just flat out be an a-hole. If he’s really committed to getting your scholarship taken away from you, he might be able to find a reason to do so. EDIT:: Sorry didn't realize @Footballking16 covered this already as I was catching up from previous pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: they can, most scholarships are for 1 year to 1 year. Not common, and cannot happen until the academic school year is over https://athleticollege.com/8-ways-a-coach-can-take-away-your-athletic-scholarship/ EDIT:: Sorry didn't realize @Footballking16 covered this already as I was catching up from previous pages It's all good. I just got an education from the both of you. Nothing wrong with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, Komets2727 said: IU is an upgrade? it is by pure standpoint of B10 MONEY and prestige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 John Gruden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 -Jason Candle--Head Coach Toledo -Paul Chryst--Current Texas analyst/former Wisconsin head coach -Justin Frye--Ohio State run game coordinator/OL coach (IU alum) -Mike Hart--RB coach Michigan Take your pick, death is not an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 If I am Tom Allen, I am on a beach in the Bahamas on a multi-week vacation with my family thinking this is the greatest thing that could have happened. $ and getting out of that horrible gig at IU. My agent already is informing suitors what does and does not motivate me for the next DC position I take. Heck, I am looking for a dream job that I can be all in on since I already have $. And as a DC, I think his spirit does translate to his guys if they know he is all in on them, just not when you are trying to beat the MAC cellar at home in overtime as the head coach. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Rather be Tom Allen right now than Ryan Day after the CFB rankings said good season, but we are going a different direction this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Saw Mark Cuban sold majority interest in Mavs. Maybe IU is calling him for donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJay Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Footballking16 said: -Jason Candle--Head Coach Toledo -Paul Chryst--Current Texas analyst/former Wisconsin head coach -Justin Frye--Ohio State run game coordinator/OL coach (IU alum) -Mike Hart--RB coach Michigan Take your pick, death is not an option. Announced that IU Donors just gave another 3 mil to the NIL fund for the next Football coach to work with, leads me to believe this could be a real interesting hire. I don't think the donors are shelling out 20 Mil to get rid of Allen followed by another 3 Mil to give to players for a MAC HC/ Or Unproven Coordinators. I think they have/have had their guy for a while now just had to get the money squared away. I'm betting an announcement tomorrow afternoon , before all IU fans shift their focus back to basketball with the Big 10 opener at SSAH Friday vs Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Gruden 😅🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJay Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobref said: Gruden 😅🤣😂 Tayven Jackson has been trolling IU fans by posting Gruden memes on Social Media pretty funny stuff! From Gruden to Brad Stevens to Billy Donavan's Wife House shopping in Bloomington and all the ridiculous names that get floated in between IU coaching searches are at least entertaining !!! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashalwaysfights Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Wondering about Chris Creighton at Eastern Michigan? Before he took the program over, EMU was a doormat in the MAC. Being a former Wabash coach, he may have some ties to the Hoosier State. Another possibility?? Curt Cignetti has built a super strong program at James Madison, moving them from FCS to FBS. There would be a bit of irony here in that Allen coached under Creighton for one season years ago when Creighton was at Wabash. I believe Allen was the DBs Coach/ST Coordinator during the 2007 season. Both great guys; I hate that it hasn't worked out for Tom, but would love to see CC get an opportunity at a P5 school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Guess the question I have, why didn't Tom Allen get that 3 million this past year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Guess the question I have, why didn't Tom Allen get that 3 million this past year ? Who was going to invest in a lame duck coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 List getting smaller. Chryst, Cignetti and Campbell rumored to be in the final group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, temptation said: List getting smaller. Chryst, Cignetti and Campbell rumored to be in the final group. *Candle not Campbell (would be dope if it were Matt) but sounds like Cignetti may be imminent. Honestly had never heard of him till this year and 62 seems like an odd reach, but have been watching different clips of him the last hour or so and his resume doesn’t lie. Probably the best outcome you could hope for as an IU fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Footballking16 said: *Candle not Campbell (would be dope if it were Matt) but sounds like Cignetti may be imminent. Honestly had never heard of him till this year and 62 seems like an odd reach, but have been watching different clips of him the last hour or so and his resume doesn’t lie. Probably the best outcome you could hope for as an IU fan. Thanks for the correction, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Footballking16 said: *Candle not Campbell (would be dope if it were Matt) but sounds like Cignetti may be imminent. Honestly had never heard of him till this year and 62 seems like an odd reach, but have been watching different clips of him the last hour or so and his resume doesn’t lie. Probably the best outcome you could hope for as an IU fan. Yes, thanks. I was getting a migraine trying to figure out who Campbell was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Cignetti the guy. On paper, might be the best coach IU has hired in a long damn time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Cignetti the guy. On paper, might be the best coach IU has hired in a long damn time. From the Indy Star: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2023/11/30/iu-football-to-hire-james-madison-curt-cignetti-as-new-head-coach-indiana-hoosiers-tom-allen/71743370007/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial_Observer Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: From the Indy Star: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2023/11/30/iu-football-to-hire-james-madison-curt-cignetti-as-new-head-coach-indiana-hoosiers-tom-allen/71743370007/ What’s it going to cost when they fire this guy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1st question What is his recruiting ties and where to do they take him? What ins does he have in the Midwest, I believe thats where IU/PU must work to lockdown first and foremost the greater 5 state area of Indiana. I don't know, thats why I ask, obviously great success, but those were established programs before he took over and took them to great successes, not discounting that, but big big step and he needs to have a great understanding on how to recruit to IU. Just like Brohm did for PU resurrection. Jury still out on Walters imo as far as recruiting prowess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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