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  1. well said....being in the MIC, and playing New Pal and Cathedral as non-conference games, schedules don't get much tougher. I do believe this is the last year of the Cathedral vs. CG matchup, so not sure what the future brings.
  2. Former Chatard OL all-stater Danny Godlevkse is on the Rimington Watch List as CFB's most outstanding center. Danny started as the center for Miami of Ohio last season. He is 1 of 4 sophs on this list. http://www.miamiredhawks.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/052217aab.html
  3. I think one of the things that makes this Vegas investment interesting is that Vegas is considered a small market. It looks like they are banking on tourists to help fill up a 65,000 seat stadium. That hasn't seemed to work long term. When I go to Vegas, typically not thinking to go catch a game, but perhaps I am in the minority. Will be interesting to see if this equation works long term. https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/raiders/raiders-move-las-vegas-doesnt-make-sense/ Las Vegas is projected to be the fifth-smallest media market in the NFL. Ownership believes most tickets will be sold to either tourists or people in-town for the weekend, but there isn’t any way to guarantee that plan will actually be successful. Even if it did succeed, it would kill the hometown vibe for the Raiders. A cheer section made up of non-locals might change the games into more of an open-ended spectacle that would put prominent away teams on equal footing. That’s if enough people even show up to the games. Las Vegas ranks near the bottom of NFL cities in population. Tourists will come out and watch the games as long as the Raiders are successful or when they play other marquee teams. This isn’t the type of situation built to tolerate slumps. Outsiders feast only on interest and intrigue with their hard-earned dollar. There is no home cooking for losing in Las Vegas.
  4. Assuming John Harrell's football site is correct, prior to Cathedral entering 6A, they won 5 consecutive 4A/5A state titles. Of the last 10 years prior to the Irish being in 6A, they won 7 titles in 5A/4A. Historically, that doesn't feel like loads of competition. But I don't disagree that 5A seems a tad stronger now than in the past.
  5. So they will go to 5A and if history is predictor, they will hammer schools that are only slightly bigger. Add some more hardware (glad you admitted it) and get another painting or 2 in the gymnasium. The commissioner did not force them down....while I get how the formula works, they absolutely had an option. Regardless of their rankings in the top 10 in the state year after year, why compete among your peers when you can drop down and get a trophy? Using English football, Cathedral is a premier team....that evidently doesn't want to play in the premier league. Scratch the last sentence....one can't be a premier team if they refuse to play in the premier league, regardless of their talent and history.
  6. I don't miss your point. I don't agree with you. Cathedral has mopped up 4A and 5A competition in the past. That is fact. They have been ranked in the top 10 of all schools, including the largest class for the last several years. That is also fact. They compete extremely well in 6A the last 2 years...but don't win the titles. So they elect to drop back down when they could have stayed in 6A and competed with the schools that are the best and they certainly measure up to competitively. Those chose not to do so. Trophies seem to be more important. Don't blame the system when Cathedral had a choice between 6A and 5A. You say Cathedral can't hang with the top tier 6A schools. I simply have a different opinion.
  7. Thanks for the correction about 5A vs. 4A. I had it wrong. But at the end of the day, Cathedral did have the choice to remain. I went back to the Indy Star and read the following: By rule, Cathedral did not achieve the point threshold to require it to continue to play in 6A. The school had the option to continue to play in 6A (Mishawaka chose to play 5A in football last season despite an enrollment that placed it in 4A). Cathedral athletic director Doug Seagrave said Thursday that the football program will play in 5A for the next two-year classification period. In its 12 tournament games in 5A in 2013 and ’14, Cathedral had just one game closer than two touchdowns (a 27-24 overtime win over Bloomington South in the 2014 semistate). The Irish won those 12 games by an average of 33 points per contest. The IHSAA added the tournament success factor in 2012. If a program achieves six points over a two year period (four points for a state championship, three for a semistate, two for a regional and one for a sectional), it moves up a class. If a program that moves up doesn’t achieve three points in the next cycle, it is bumped back down a class unless it chooses to play up. http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/01/12/cathedral-play-5a-football-next-two-years/96482340/ Its seems FB16, you make the case about being blown out by BD, but then have no issue when Cathedral "walks over" the competition they've faced while in 4A and 5A.
  8. First off sorry about hitting the negative....I was cursing over to type and why I clicked my mouse early, no idea. Hopefully, the admins can fix my mistake. Definitely not intended. You've mentioned the BD thing a few times, and I struggle with it. BD is an excellent program, no doubt. But I watched Cathedral battle CG to OT in a game that was a toss up. A very even match. CG beats BD twice during the season. (by 2 scores in the regular season and by 3 scores in the playoffs) If Cathedral could more than compete against CG (and have done so for 3 straight seasons), couldn't the Irish/BD game simply be one of those nights? An outlier? I'm not sure how the Irish can compete against a team that beats BD twice, yet shouldn't be on the same field with the Giants. Just doesn't seem to make sense. Additionally, it seems historically, Cathedral always hung with BD. Are you sure you're not putting too much emphasis on one game?
  9. That's a fair question Tippy...I guess I don't truly know if they will be good. All I can go off is their history, and the rankings that I mentioned earlier. But you'r right...there is no guarantee Cathedral will win 5A. But if history is a predictor of the future, Cathedral will consistently be a top 10 program.
  10. I love how you detract to top 32, while ignoring the school that you support is a perennial top 10 program in the state. Let's focus on Cathedral. You know that had Cathedral administration wished, they could have remained in 6A. They had an option. That is why instead of dropping to 4A, they "played up" a level and went to 5A. Again, its a class that they have won championships. They were not forced down. No one said Cathedral was obligated to do anything. But in the spirit of competition, if one realizes they are consistently one of the top 10 programs in the state, then why wouldn't they want to compete with similar levels of competition. Cathedral is happy to do so in the regular season....just not during the playoffs. And that seems to indicate that hardware is more important than competing among their peer teams when playing for all the marbles.
  11. I think the system is better today than in the past. If not for the system, Cathedral would still be in 4A thumping everyone to death. BTW, I am not talking about Chatard and LCC routinely being ranked in the top 32. I am talking about Cathedral being consistently ranked within the top 10 of the state, and I bet at the end of the day, you would agree with that ranking. I bet the Cathedral coaching staff and administration would agree with that ranking. Its more than deserved....definitely earned by one of the state's top programs. So if everyone is aligned that Cathedral is a consistent top 10 program, but choose to play down a class (BTW, still is outside their enrollment), what does that tell someone about the motivation?
  12. Indy Cathedral is ranked within the top 10 of all programs in the state, not within a particular class. Apples to orange comment. My comment about Cathedral's top 10 ranking year after year had nothing to do with the IHSAA's success factor. It was solely about the sustained excellence of the Cathedral program and why I would put them with the best and biggest in the state. (just an opinion)
  13. I think the question is where do they belong. I went back and checked past year end Sagarin ratings, and every year Cathedral was top 10 in the state 2010 - 7th; 2011 - 4th; 2012 - 7th; 2013 - 7th; 2014 - 6th; 2015 - ? couldn't find; 2016 - 9th Based on that data consistently inside of a top 10 ranking of all programs in the state, hard to argue they don't belong in the top class.
  14. CG beat the team you are talking about twice last season, including the week after you played them, And the Cathedral CG game was a classic that went to OT and either team could have won. You can't take one bad night and let that become representative of the total sum, You know that. Historically, Cathedral vs BD, Cathedral vs. Carmel, Cathedral vs WC and Cathedral vs CG have been some outstanding football games. Not many blowouts in those games...not even close. Why don't other teams play up? The conversation is about Cathedral. If one feels that they are truly a top 10 program in this state, then why wouldn't they be playing in the top classification in the state? Cathedral would play the Colts....just not the top schools in the state during the playoffs......??? Its over for me...we just shall agree to disagree. Perhaps I am giving more credit that what is due.
  15. How many schools in this state have 5000 kids? Cathedral has no problem playing some of Ohio's best.....Indiana's best during the regular season. And they more than compete and hold their own. The talk isn't about enrollments at that time. They also know they have the horses to compete and then some. For some reason, they just don't wish to go up against those top teams in the playoffs. A top 10 program that doesn't wish to play in the top 32 when its for all the marbles.