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Greetings all! Been scouring MaxPreps a bit, looking at rosters from last year and digging where I can to get info on this upcoming season. Some of the BEST intel comes from this very board! Hard to fathom we are just a month away from the start of the high school football season here in the Hoosier state. A few years ago on a whim, I started releasing a weekly a classless top 50 list of what thought were the best 50 teams from around the state. Admittedly, I know some areas better than others and am relying on boxscores on many occasions. That all being said, I am going to do it again this fall albeit a bit differently. I am going to release the teams in this fashion. Friday, July 19th: teams 26-50 (alphabetically; “the best of the rest”) Friday, July 26th: teams 21-25 Friday, August 2nd: teams 16-20 Friday. August 9th: teams 11-15 Friday, August 16th: teams 6-10 Friday, August 23rd: teams 1-5 Your conversation is welcome and appreciated!

Jim Ralston Field at Paul A. Graves Stadium.

Stinky, Stink, Stink, 1.2..3... Driving through Casket Town, what did Stink see? Not K9, not C3, But a Dawg so fierce, it could whip the crew and STC! A tall freak of nature, six-foot-six & Three hundred pounds, just for kicks! No, Stink hasn’t been drinking, no one believes that $&!^ Rumor says Ol' Coach Gray Pup hit the Kansas sky, With his bible held high, shouting "Z" to the knee, You can't play that high, not if you’re with me!" If anyone can confirm what STC saw, Let us know, cause lawd, if so, There's a new Tiger breeding store going in next door!

My wife wonders how I can remember a football game from 20 years ago but I can't remember what we did yesterday.

Interesting graphic I came across which shows the amount of NFL players per 1 million residents of each state. Indiana fairs pretty well in comparison to the rest of the country I thought.

There’s a massive difference between a school with 3500-4000 kids (4-5 schools) and 1500-2000 kids (the rest of 5A) before the 6th class was added. That’s why the Big 3 dominated for so long. There’s now 18 6A schools (out of 32) whose enrollment are all ~3000+. Once you cross a certain threshold in terms of enrollment, the number becomes insignificant. Only X amount of kids can play. If you can’t field a competitive football team with 3000+ kids in your building, you need to look in the mirror. Simply put, Carmel/Warren/Ben Davis no longer enjoy the massive disparity in enrollment like they use too. And the results the last 6-8 years speak for themselves.

side note I've got an absolute cannon so center grove counts

Will Biden’s book deal be a picture book?

It was 12 years ago today that the GID suffered a devastating blow from which many thought it would never recover. The founder and guiding spirit of the forum, Tim Adams, passed away suddenly. Tim was a long time coach, and a tireless promoter of Indiana high school football. I consider myself very fortunate to have gotten to know him and call him a good friend. I know many of the people on the forum now joined after Tim passed, and they know him only by the occasional references on here. Perhaps others who knew him might share some of their recollections of this very good man.

On reflection, it was a mistake for me to accompany @temptation and @BTF down this particular rabbit hole. Mea culpa. No one has ever won an argument with a Trump advocate. Add to that the thorny issue of abortion (they brought it up, not me), and the discussion turns entirely unproductive. So, with apologies, I’m out.

I have no idea because it is unprecedented in the 248 years of our republic.

Kamala Harris is the VP because her skin is black and she has no Y chromosome. Those are OK qualifications for a VP, but not for the leader of the free world. If there are still Democrats worthy of the name, they’ll jettison her and start over. They have about 4 weeks to find someone.

Yes. And anyone refusing to vote for her is obviously a sexist, racist, bigot who believes in the end of democracy. Am I doing this right?

Interesting that Mr. Biden officially dropped out of the race on July 1st, 2024; National Ice Cream Day:

Thank goodness I have you to tell me how I really feel. Otherwise, I’d be lost.

Man, you have really got the Trump style down to a T.

I am not saying they are in the top three or could compete with any of these three teams, because well we know what the 06 and 17 teams did to Penn. But, if it weren't for an egregious call in the regional game in 2002 the nationally ranked Penn team was the best Penn team I have ever seen take the field. Dominated BD in Indy and ravaged that Saginaw team that was also nationally ranked with Lamarr Woodley. Aug. 23 Valparaiso W 31 7 Aug. 30 at Ben Davis W 30 14 Sep. 6 at South Bend Washington W 69 0 Sep. 13 South Bend Riley W 61 12 Sep. 20 Saginaw (Mich.) W 49 7 Sep. 27 at South Bend Clay W 35 12 Oct. 4 at South Bend Adams W 65 0 Oct. 11 Mishawaka W 51 0 Oct. 18 at Elkhart Central W 63 13 Oct. 25 at Elkhart Memorial W 42 7 sect Nov. 1 Elkhart Central W 63 0 sect Nov. 8 at Goshen W 31 0 sect That is every game leading up to the regional game. I think that loss shook the state and BD goes on to an easy state title win. Shoulda woulda coulda. Damn shame that it ended in Valpo and not in Indy.

The “Best of the Rest.” These teams (arranged alphabetically) were given top 25 consideration but ultimately were left on the outside looking in. Avon Bloomington North Brebeuf Jesuit East Noble Evansville Memorial Gibson Southern Guerin Catholic Harrison (West Lafayette) Heritage Hills Homestead Indianapolis Roncalli Lafayette Jefferson Lawrence Central Leo Michigan City Mooresville Mount Vernon (Fortville) New Palestine New Prairie Northridge Pendleton Heights Plainfield West Lafayette Whiteland Zionsville

Don’t forget mayor Pete.

Guys - There's nothing strange going on here. A 20 year shooter had never used social media or posted a single thing on the internet, ever and his phone cannot be accessed because it has a password that even our government's best hackers can't get around. Stole his dad's long gun and was able to get within 200 yards of a former President and take a few shots before getting killed. That's all - normal stuff.......And now the FBI is on the case so yeah, it's all good......

So Biden/Harris is a cult? Obama was a cult? Not sure I understand the difference. It sounds to me like the definition of a cult is something that one doesn't agree with, so they call it a "cult."

I miss the days when a player considered it an honor to get an invite to the all-star game and they played. College football has killed this.

Trump is also guilty of cultural appropriation. He stole the Billy Jack salute! 😂 If you think I have anything but contempt for Biden and his ilk, you’re dead wrong. They are both ass hats in different ways. The only similarity between them is that they are both bad Presidents and bad for the country.

When I heard about the shooting, I turned to my wife and said: “By 8 a.m. tomorrow you will be able to find national media outlets wondering if Trump didn’t stage the whole thing as a vote-getting ploy.” And I wouldn’t worry about some grand conspiracy. We’ll find out soon that the shooter was a lone whacko who thought he was doing the country a service. Trump’s rhetoric is often inflammatory and tends to trigger violent behavior (Jan. 6 anyone?) in those that are already unbalanced, regardless of party affiliation. This should not come as a shock to anyone. But I’m sure the right-wing fearmongers out there will try to make big political capital off this. Just another bizarre twist in an already bizarre presidential campaign.

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They have been doing this a few years now. Sometimes 2nd string kids can add. I bet if Snider's 2nds all went to South that program would be competitive. That's my opinion.

I will agree it is hard for me to not place 2006 or 2003 Warren Central teams among the top. I watched the 2003 Warren Central team absolutely obliterate 2002 and 2003 Ohio Div 1 State Champions Cincinnati Elder 45-20 at the Ryle Classic in Ryle KY. That 2003 WC team let their guard down and lost to Carmel and a shocker to LN. The 2006 WC team though were dominant, hard to believe that was 18 years ago.

I am not so sure I would say 2015 wasn't a strong year in 6A. Center Grove's Titus McCoy was a fantastic RB. There were some terrific games in the South Bracket that year. Cathedral (in 6A at the time) lost in 2 OT's 37-34 in a great game to Brandon Peters led Avon at Avon and Center Grove edged out Warren Central 24-13. Then Center Grove in 2 OT's squeaked by Brandon Peters (Indiana Mr. Football and Gatorade Player of the year) led Avon 35-34 at Center Grove. Back to back double OT games for Avon. In the North you had Penn upset a 2 loss Carmel team (Cincy LaSalle and Center Grove) at Penn. Penn lost to CG 28-16. CG and Carmel reloaded and played for State the following year with Camel besting CG in OT 16-13 in a great game. I would say it was a strong year in 2015 for 6A just a little more parity and not one team showing total dominance.

Controversial opinion but I’ll take the 2017 BD team… I can’t take a look at football highlights from any level before the mid 1990’s and say with a straight face those teams could keep up with the strength and speed of today’s athletes. I’m sure that’ll hurt feelings.

FB16 is smart...my wife would tell you that you are giving me way too much credit. Can't argue with her to be honest! Hey, its ok we have different views. Makes forums like this interesting.

Saban paying those transfers thousands of Benjamin’s doesn’t hurt either….

Warren Central could go 0-9 and still make regionals. They play in the worst sectional in the entire state. Making a regional with that draw shouldn’t be an accomplishment.

Not saying he wasn't a good coach. His record over 5 years was 31-28 and was using this period to demonstrate in a conversation on this board that being one of the largest 3 schools in 6A doesn't automatically put a school in the 6A championship game. Guess I could have used Warren Central's last 3 years under Kirschner (another very good coach) is another example. Since his return to WC, he is 16-17. Carmel is 11-9 over the past 2 seasons with first round sectional losses. My point being, the largest populated schools, while certainly a benefit, are not a shoe-in to win to the 6A state title. As good as BD was last year, they had to work their tails off to overcome Brownsburg, Cathedral and CG, winning each game by 3 points, the last one in OT that could have certainly went either way. Their excellent kicker certainly made a huge difference. There seem to be a number of schools in the Indy metro area (and outside the area) that are overcoming the size differential and closing the gap. CG has done so for years...others now are doing the same.

WOW Finished the DOC a couple of night ago....... Wild

Me, too. That’s why I’ve voted for the Libertarian candidate recently.

This thread totally brings a smile to my face. TA was one of one, and his passion for Indiana high school football was unmatched. Honestly, I felt like I lost a family member the day I read of his passing. It's so great his legacy lives on through this forum.

If you are talking a DAC all-star team I’m all ears.

In that situation, If I am student A, I would look for a smaller school in my area and go there. If you are second string at a Penn size school you will likely start at a 2 or 3A school. Depth at those levels hurts. Which then turns you into Student B, and the cycle continues.

ill take the stone's throw for 20 beers

are we really going to sit here and act like crown point should have been on the same field as ben davis? we could have put together a team of gid members and had the same outcome as that game

had to go back a little bit for entertainment purposes there are not 10 teams capable of winning 6a this year, or any year in the past 2 decades. there are at most like 4 teams a year in the conversation.

Well, based on logic if Jason Simmons and Tom Allen can’t win at Ben Davis but are D1 quality the only conclusion is that Russ Mann is the next coming of Bill Belichick.

Not deflecting at all. Your theory had to be the first thing on his mind when selecting the Giants....I'm sure all coaches "drink your theories like Kool-Aid". Are you going to try and convince us that BD doesn't have a rich history and culture for football, it doesn't have a sustained feeder system, that BDHS was void of excellent coaches, that awesome facilities doesn't exist, that Mann's development as a coach didn't occur through some excellent programs, etc? If its just about numbers only, then why did the program go 31-28 over the 5 years prior? Weren't there enough kids on the roster?

Hard to believe it has been 14 years now. Anyone still in contact with Mrs. T.A.? How is she doing?

Illiana Christian’s enrollment was 544. The cutoff between 2A and 3A was 513, so they would be 3A.

Rumor is they moved all the dirt from Castle’s crown to a hole in Arizona. Now the Grand Canyon is only the ‘Moderately good’ Canyon.

Our crew made a rare trip to central Indiana during the regular season one year to work Fishers @ Avon. Dave Shelbourne, formerly at Highland, was coaching Avon and Rick Wimmer, formerly of Merrillville, was coaching Fishers. When TA found out we were coming, he got all excited and promised to come over and see us. We had a great time chatting before the game. This picture of the coin toss be fore the game was taken by TA himself.