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  1. Blake looks like he is doing well. https://www.duboiscountyherald.com/archives/pats-duttlinger-pushes-through-lost-limb/article_ae963019-15ef-585b-83c1-befa8c63ad91.html Here he is at the Jeffersonville wrestling tournament December 4th. I was surprised he was able to wrestle just 3 months after the accident.
    10 points
  2. From: Coach Gilbert Title: Proposal from a Retiring Coach Next fall, God Willing, will be my 40 season as a head football coach and my final season as I plan to retire at the conclusion of the 2022 season. I have taught the past 34 years Social Science at Clinton Central High School and have been the head football coach 22 of those years. I am currently on my second run the past two seasons. I pride myself in being a classroom teacher first and extending that forum to the athletic field. My current course schedule includes: United States History, World History, APUSH, Psychology and Sociology along with certification as our school weight room instructor. We currently have an opening for second semester on for my teaching position, then after the conclusion of the football season an opportunity available to interview for the head football coaching position. This is a unique opportunity for the right candidate with a strong academic resume. Our students are outstanding as our academic rigor is directed and expected by students, administration and community. What kind of candidate are we seeking? Successful assistant coach with 5 + years of high school leadership experience. [from any class level] · A former or current head coach that would like to try again or just decided as I have done several times that you are just not done yet. [from any class level] · High level of strength teaching ability to lead not only football but direct the entire strength program. Once implemented this is not as hard as it may sound. · Commitment toward moving this program in a positive direction. · Able to work closely with administration, especially the Athletic Office. Football has a strong tradition here at Central, football has been heard at times state wide but we still are looking to advance beyond the regional level. We have a wonderful fan base, best equipment available, and an outstanding veteran coaching staff that plan to stay on after I retire. All the wheels are in motion for the right guy! The Gridiron community over the years have liked and dislike me as a coach but that is ok because our community feels the same and that is what we all expect! If interested contact me through my email address and we can talk more. I will answer all email inquiries, I want someone to come in and do well! Email: George.gilbert@clinton.k12.in.us
    9 points
  3. Proud of our boys and their playoff run. Great experience for our community, can't wait to do it again. Mt Vernon had some crazy speed for sure.
    8 points
  4. Dave Shelbourne was the head coach at Avon, and Rick Wimmer at Fishers. But here’s the kicker: the photo was taken by Tim Adams!
    8 points
  5. Sigh🙄...many, if not most of us, come to these forums to get away from the political ignorance coming from both sides these days. Can't we simply let the GID be about high school football, please...
    8 points
  6. I'm interested in if and how teams are addressing this? We need to do better. We need to listen, educate, and do much much more than just wait until something happens. Stop thinking racism doesn't exist. https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/westfield-washington-schools-responds-to-blackface-photo-releases-statement/
    7 points
  7. At the risk of upsetting and/or placing those of you whom I have known for years in an "uncomfortable situation". I've tried my best to NOT comment on this situation. As we deal with 'education based athletics', it is apparent to THIS man; A focus on the totality of AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has been given a pass that has never taught in any way that has given any focus on the individuals/races/societies that have been the brunt of the inequality of the "American Ethos" at any time other than 2 short lived times in American History (Reconstruction and 1965-1980), an approach with our educational system that could perhaps EDUCATE our children on the reasons why certain activities, utterances, and behaviors need to be a part of the reason that we as "Americans" need to understand that we are a UNIQUE society in today's world. I have always been surprised at the multi-racial composition of the children in the State of Indiana. When I began this thing called "officiating" I can recall being at sites where I was the ONLY minority at the contest. Today, that almost NEVER happens! And I only see UNIFORMS....not the racial component of the players. If I ever do that, then that will be the day I quit! I can promise you that!!!! On a personal level: Ask yourselves... Do YOU know, I mean KNOW an individual of a race/culture/sexual-persuasion in a deeply person level.? If not, then you only are an acquaintance! Once you can understand the personal feelings and reasons that they may differ from your beliefs, and the ACCEPT those and STILL be a friend...only at that time can you truly (in your heart and soul) be a person that is in eyes of the Lord and Savior, a person that is understanding and acceptable of ALL God's Children. The young man from Center Grove, (IMO) is not indicative of that program, School Corporation or anything else related in anyway/shape or form. But to also think that there are not some individuals within the Westfield community who also may have the same thoughts BEYOND their support for the Shamrocks, is foolish. We are ALL better than this in 2021... This young man has ruined his current situation, and perhaps things beyond that. That is a fact. But please, let's not devolve into a "Holier Than Though" situation that has no answers to what we should all hope for as Hoosiers, and Americans! Seek iout those that are not within your preview, and understand their lives/situations/experiences. You might find that they are a lot like you. Just my .02 From the bottom of my heart.....
    7 points
  8. Lutherans Madder Days Gibson Southerns Mount Vernons Cathedrals China Groves I’m Donnie Baker and I approve this message.
    7 points
  9. 2 SIAC AND 1 PAC Team in Semi-State. Congrats to SW Indiana!
    7 points
  10. This list is just the top 50 for the state and not the individual all state selections for 1A-6A. Don’t be like me a few years ago and ask later why someone isn’t on both. you can only be on ONE list. Either the player is on the Top 50 or they are eligible to be on the 1A-6A all state team…but not both. If you don’t read this you will be fodder to the rest of the forum 😂 anyways…. Offense Defense congrats to everyone!
    6 points
  11. Many of you have probably never heard of Freddy Toth (GS RT #70) This kid was amazing all season and particularly in the playoffs against some of the best DEs 3A had to offer. Have to include this quote from his Mom on a Facebook post. “When Freddy was just little, he explained his position to me like this— “Mom, if Brady is behind my butt then I’m doing good.” He did good!!! ❤️“
    6 points
  12. Well, not the ending we wanted but a great game, nonetheless. Both Defenses showed their strength and, in the end, a fumble deep in MD territory turned the tide. #34, Bowen was the best player on the field. He took the game over in the 2nd half, leading Andrean to a well earned victory. Congrats to the 59'ers. As for the Wildcats, not the end result we wanted but so very proud of the team & its overall effort Saturday. The Defense came to play and the Offense gave it their best but came up short against an equally strong Andrean defense. I knew Andrean would be bigger in some areas but it seemed every player at every position had about 20 lbs on us. 💪 In the end, we came up a little short but we could not be more proud of the team and the overall season! Thanks to this awesome group of Seniors: Tyler Martin, James Ralph, Nicholas, Boots, Eli McDurmon, Will Carter, Cole & Dane Wilson, Pierce Wolters, Bryce Humphrey, JT Mayer, Calvin Stratman, Ryan VanBibber, Luke Burgdorf, Jay Schiff, Nathan Koressel, Colin Maurer, Mason Eichoff, & Landon Elpers... Thanks for your leadership, dedication & effort over the past 4 years. Your collective effort has once again lifted the team, the school, and the West Side community and given us something to take our minds off all the other craziness going on the world...if only for a few hours a week. Can't wait until next year...
    6 points
  13. #2-Warren Foster and his family working chain gang Friday night at the semi-state game at Ames Filed between Zionsville - Michigan City. Warren has been both working chain gang and has been the official score keeper for Elston, Rogers and MCHS for the past 57 consecutive seasons. Friday night was his first ever semi-state. Warren Foster is somebody who should be enshrined in the Indiana Football Hall of Fame.
    6 points
  14. Someone will say they were recruited too. I swear to God they will!
    6 points
  15. Why can’t people just say Adams Centrals beat North Judsons ass without a bunch of excuses? Y’all sound like the stat boy from Winamacs, I swear to God you do!
    6 points
  16. Not big on predictions (for good reason) but I think GS got their “scare” against a tough-minded and talented Lawrenceburg squad. As an aside, as much as people in various corners of the state like to claim they’re “disrespected” NOBODY gets less respect than Southeast Indiana and, generally, when Lawrenceburg and East Central come boiling out of that corner of the state they don’t go down easy and if they do go down they generally leave a Helluva “mark”. Personally, I think Gibson Southern wins this Semi-State game going away. I can’t see them looking past Tri-West at this point and I think they are simply supremely talented as a team. I think that this game, from their perspective, is not so much a “survive and move on game” as it is a “statement game”. A lot of us who have watched 3A South the last decade understand that GS is a perennial contender but they are oft overlooked by the rest of the State when they only see Memorial or Heritage Hills coming out that part of the State in 3A. It’s perhaps been too long coming but GS has something to prove and I think they aren’t going to miss this opportunity to prove it.
    6 points
  17. First Hey, how come *insert name from Top 50* doesn't show up on the *insert IFCA Class 6A SR All-State* list? These lists are a joke. 😀 I just wanted to be the first to post that ... over/under on time until someone really posts it?
    5 points
  18. 1. GS 2. GS JV 3. GS Freshman 4. Memorial 5. Mater Dei 6. GS 8th grade
    5 points
  19. Not much doubt who the best player on the field is today.
    5 points
  20. 99 receptions 1751 yards 24 TDs monster semi state game and follows it up with a monster championship game …..I think it’s about time he gets a few of those stars next to his recruiting profile.
    5 points
  21. After watching the SAC's streak of having a semi-state representative for 34 years in a row come to an end tonight, it's only appropriate to bring up the topic of restructuring the conference in the off season. Teams from the Indy area proved last night that they are on a different level. This has nothing to do with the players, but everything to do with the programs. The growth of Indy area football programs have come along way over the last 20 years, and now it's just a matter of figuring out how to catch up. It took several years, but the HCC has finally caught up with the MIC. It only took a few years, but the SAC elevated the level of play from Homestead and Carroll. Now the question is, who can elevate the level of play from the SAC? The answer is simple. Restructure the conference so that teams can schedule at least one team outside the division during the regular season. How many would be ideal? Three or four? Who knows, but one game would be a good start. I'd like to see Snider, Homestead, and Carroll have the opportunity to schedule a team from the MIC, a team from the HCC, and a team from the region on an annual basis. Allow Dwenger to knock heads with Chatard. Luers possibly with LCC or one of those teams they used to tangle with from Ohio. That would do the trick. Instead of hitting a brick wall in the post season, our teams would know what to expect and know what to do moving forward to get to a championship level of play. This is no longer becoming a matter of opinion. It's becoming a matter of fact. If the SAC want's become a player again at a statewide level, they need to ditch the "ease of scheduling" line of thought and get rid of the 'island conference.' Twenty years ago, this Carroll team might have had what it took to reach state. Twenty years ago, this Dwenger team might have had what it took to reach state. This isn't twenty years ago. It's a new era. Make a change or get used to the status quo.
    5 points
  22. SF has a lot to be thankful for this year. I hope everyone else can say the same thing as well. Still alive, breathing and able to take nourishment. Able to be cranky about the state of political affairs, and able to complain about them, but still able to smile and carry on. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the GID.
    5 points
  23. So nip and tuck games where a generational team for SR squeaked by typical GS team? The level of consistency in our program has been nothing short of amazing in the Hart era. You can try and try to put some sort of asterisks next to this teams achievements, but guess what, that asterisks will only exist in your head next to your disdain for this program. Your last dozen posts or so have been exclusively aimed at trying to get someone, anyone, to listen to your pathetic agenda, it really is just silly. Like our D1 QB wasn't going to take a step forward his senior year like most kids do? I have no idea where it comes from, perhaps the fact that you wanted desperately to continue to be able to say, that even though this program is 104-20 in the last 10 years including a 50-0 destruction of SR in 2015 or the 55-14 trashing in 2017 when SR won state, that we had never been to a state championship game? How is this year any different than those? Perhaps it some sort of self protection mechanism where you have convinced yourself that somehow three move ins out of the 2,000 in the state of Indiana this year made this season any different than what we normally do to SR? As a friend of mine always says, "same as it ever was". I hope you chose to stay on our schedule and continue to receive your beatdowns, everyone needs goals and yours can continue to be, "beat the Titans". This year the excuse was three move ins. What will it be next year and the year after that and the year after that? This is the 20th anniversary of our youth league and it's fitting to achieve this milestone this year. The only thing super about this team are the families, community and staff behind an amazing bunch of kids (including the move ins who are great people). I won't apologize for our community being an attractive place to live. Perhaps the unique distance from Evansville (not too close but not too far), small town living, many religious options, and quality employment opportunities make it more appealing than chicken processing plants. 15 or more of the first 25 kids to play in GS games this year have at least one parent that is a GS alumni and although I don't have averages for that type of statistics across that state, I'm guessing it would put us in the top 10 percent of 3A schools in terms of lineage. Then again, who cares, all great people are welcome here and frankly I hope they keep coming because again, the only asterisk will exist in your head and our rent will continue to be enjoyable and free.
    5 points
  24. AND... wrestle this year! Incredible.
    5 points
  25. He’s getting his stat books ready for basketball season, I swear to God he is!
    5 points
  26. It’s over. Memorial fans can safely start making Thanksgiving weekend reservations in Indy.
    5 points
  27. Exactly. I was going to say the SAME thing. This game is in Butler My ex-wife's birthday is Monday. I'll throw her in there as "anything".
    5 points
  28. I will bet anything that Eastbrook doesn't win.
    5 points
  29. Here are my thoughts. They are lengthy and involved, as this is a very, very difficult call. Please read the explanation as well as the conclusion so that everyone understands I have absolutely no problem with this Referee's call. As has been pointed out elsewhere, this is a multiple state finals crew. The R has a stellar reputation, well-deserved. I’ve spent a long time looking at the video and going through the rule book and case book, luxuries this Referee didn’t have. I’m still not sure I’ve got it right. But I looked at the play from the standpoint of an observer, who will get the crew together after the game to discuss mechanics, rules, and thought processes on this very difficult play. Here’s my $.02: From the video angle (which is not the same angle the R had), it looks like to me the QB is securely holding the ball, he begins his throwing motion, changes his mind, tries to hold onto the ball, but with momentum it comes out of his grasp. It is possible that a different angle shows something else. But from the comments I’ve seen, that seems to be the likeliest explanation for what happened. I saw someone reference the “tuck rule.” That rule doesn’t exist in the NF code. So, forget about that. So, the question I’m going to work through is whether this is an incomplete forward pass, or a fumble recovered by the defense for a TD, as ruled by the R. First, let me state categorically, I have no criticism of the R’s performance on this play, or even his final ruling. From what the video shows, R was in the right position, looking at what he was supposed to be looking at. He came in deliberately but decisively with a good signal. His body language displayed confidence in his call. He did everything right from a mechanical standpoint. Second, in order to answer the critical question, we start with the rules. What is a pass? “Passing the ball is throwing a ball that is in player possession. In a pass, the ball travels in flight.” It is also true that “Prior to releasing the ball on a pass, if the potential passer is contacted, and the ball is released, it is a forward pass if his arm was moving forward on contact.” We also have to factor in the “when in doubt” that officials can use to resolve thorny issues like this one: “When in doubt, it is an incomplete forward pass and not a fumble.” Here’s the case for a fumble vs. an incomplete pass: The rule says a pass is “thrown.” This is not a term that is defined in the rules. To many people, the word “thrown” connotes an intentional act, not an accidental one. If the QB did not intend to release the ball, he didn’t “throw” it, so it cannot be considered a pass. In other words, a pass must be intentional, not accidental. No intent, no pass. And if it’s not a pass, it must be a fumble. This is a reasonable interpretation of the rules. In none of the secondary sources of case plays I looked through was there any play that contradicted this line of reasoning. So, even though I don’t agree with this interpretation of the rule, I can see it is a reasonable one … especially when you take into account that I’ve spent several hours on this play today, and the R had about 2 seconds to process everything that happened. So, I say again, I find no fault with the R on this play. I just don’t agree with him. It’s clear that both the language of the rule and the case plays I’ve read illustrating the proper interpretation of the rule use the arm moving forward as the key criterion for pass vs. fumble. Once the arm starts moving forward, if the ball is released while the arm is still moving, it’s going to be a forward pass. This is true if contact causes the ball to come out. This is also true if, for example, the passer is contacted and, as a result, the ball actually goes backward. Once the arm starts moving forward, only two things can happen: Either the ball doesn’t come out, and the QB remains a runner, or the ball comes out, and it’s a forward pass. In other words, if the ball comes out after the arm starts to move forward, it cannot be a fumble. There is also the “when in doubt,” which, in my view, tilts the playing field toward pass vs. fumble. Finally, there is a philosophy at work among officials that we simply don’t want to award cheap turnovers, let alone a fluke TD. So, taking all of these things into account, if I were calling this play, seeing what I saw in the video (which may well not be the same thing the R saw on the field), I would have called this an incomplete forward pass. But as an observer, there is no way I would ever downgrade the R for his call on this play, even though I would have called it differently with the information I have. Ultimately, he made a judgment call, and his judgment was well within the realm of reasonable. Those who think everything on the field is black and white, with no gray areas, should realize through this discussion that sometimes there’s plenty of gray out there. I think one thing we can all take from this play is that sometimes it’s fairly simple out on the field. But sometimes the guys in stripes are asked to do a virtually impossible job. And this play looks like one of those.
    5 points
  30. Stinky, Stink, Stink 1, 2, 3 Just crawl outta the dumpster at the one and only Connies? The Grid just hasn't been the same in 2021. Can the Tigers pull out the W against the mighty Titan? Should be a shootout, Yoon and the boys get it done, Triple C's taking the Tigers in a close one.......36-35! EIAC forever..........PAC NEVER! Fort Branchians taking pics after the game like......
    5 points
  31. Try Carriage Inn one block north... the ice cold fish bowls won't treat you wrong. Plus the breaded tenderloin sandwich is as big as your head. Or half a GS fan's head.
    5 points
  32. You can be sure that the crew chief made a lengthy report to the IHSAA before ever hitting the hay that night. As the game was terminated at that point, you should be aware that the officials nevertheless retain jurisdiction over the game for as long as it takes to complete any “administrative duties” associated with the contest. That means they can go to their locker room after the game was terminated, compare notes as a crew, and retroactively disqualify players if warranted.
    5 points
  33. He is also intending on playing football next year.
    4 points
  34. That's amazing and so awesome to see. That picture alone says so much about the kid. I've never met him but I can tell you he's a great competitor, a worker and a fighter. He and his family should be very proud of his efforts.
    4 points
  35. After today’s purchase of the Packers stock sale…I am an official owner of the Packers beyond just being born in this city and living here. I would just like to tell you that, like Aaron Rodgers, I own you too. 🤣🤣😎😎
    4 points
  36. Tell us what you know @DanteEstonia. Educate us. You've got nothing. While I'm at it, @gonzoron I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that it was more than one kid. If you are simply saying that because there were other kids on the bus then say that. Your comment reads like there were other kids who painted their faces black. There wasn't and you know it. Your moral turpitude leads you to come here and trash a community and a football program because they are better than you are or ever were. Get over yourself. This thread has no business on this forum. I thought GID was better than this.
    4 points
  37. I also think they should have a retired official in the booth to lend expertise when needed. Hopefully at some obscene rate of compensation. 😉
    4 points
  38. People always ask me, "doesn't it get old winning so much?" I tell 'em, NEVER. It's always a new cast of players and families and winning provides memories for them forever. I feel blest to be a Cathedral alum and still an Irish fan. Tradition is something that is hard to grasp unless you've experienced it. Not only is Cathedral consistently good on the athletic fields, the quality education continues after all these years. It's heartwarming for this old grad to see the quality continue. Zionsville played about as good a game as they could. They've been a challenge for two years now. Hats off to the effort they put forth in the last two years. Looking forward to more of the same as we move forward next year. For the Irish, Danny O'Neil is amazing. For one so young he has the poise of a one much older. I can't wait to see what's ahead for this young man! Jaron Tibbs is one of the best wide receivers in the state of Indiana. I've said this all year, but he really come up big on the big stage, so to speak. And he's only a junior! Jaron is also a pretty fair basketball player. The defense bent but didn't break. The Eagles presented some things that made it difficult to defend. Very diversified, although once they fell behind they became a bit more one dimensional. I don't worry much about those who dislike the Irish because they win too much. I've seen race drivers booed because they have won too much. It's sort of a badge of honor. Winning at Cathedral comes at a price for the players. It's a year long process as they just don't just show up in August expecting to play well. They will be back in the weight room in a couple of weeks preparing for a new challenge next season. It's always good to see old friends at the Finals and during the season. At my age I've made a lot of friends over the years, and I feel lucky to still be able to get to the games and cheer the guys on. One criticism of the process. The IHSAA may consider starting the games at 11am as it got real late on us last night. I didn't get home until after midnight, and I live relatively close to LOS, maybe 20 minutes away at the most. I would never suggest shortening the after game ceremony because the teams deserve that. The biggest downer is that the football season is over. It will be a long dry spell for us. This season seemed to fly by. I hope to be back in the stands in August, and I hope to see a lot of Irish fans out there too. One more thing. I'd like to give a shout out to the Irish bagpiper, Robert Wood. He adds a very unique touch to the Irish, leading them on the field before the games. I feel a nap coming on!
    4 points
  39. GS has nothing to apologize for. They've worked hard for a long time and earned their success. Go kick some @$$ and bring another football title back to southwest Indiana. As far as I'm concerned, its a pretty special club down here and GS belongs. Enjoy the week. Nothing better than a practice on Thanksgiving. Make sure your kids are hydrating like never before. WIN IT!!
    4 points
  40. The entire school is recruited, all 1062 of 'em. That's how a private school fills their classrooms. It was that way in the early 1960's when I was recruited to Cathedral.
    4 points
  41. This will be the first time Ames Field or even Michigan City will ever host a semi-state in any sport. Elston won boys basketball in 1966 and girls cross country in 1993 and 1994 and MCHS won volleyball in 1995 but the semi-states were either away games or at neutral sites. Everybody here is very excited and all the business have all their marquees and store front windows with a message in support of the team.
    4 points
  42. *** But hey, first thing first... get a W and THEN we can complain about LOS scheduling. Nothing is guaranteed for any team making that trip as anything more than a fan until everyone TCOB this Friday/Saturday. My sincerest apologies to the football gods if I've offended them by appearing to presume there IS a next week. If anyone needs me, I'll be self-flagellating with maroon and gold pom-poms barefoot down Coal Mine Road until game day... shaaame... shaaaaame... shaaaaaaaaameeee...
    4 points
  43. For those who can't make it out to Middlebury Friday night, WHME TV 46 has announced this as their game of the week and will be streaming.
    4 points
  44. I don't think an early season girls BB game should trump a regional championship football game. If nothing else, the football game could have been scheduled in the afternoon and Triton fans could have made it a double header with the girls BB game.
    4 points
  45. Taking time out from this until decisions are made by the IHSAA. For future reference, an occasional funny political jab is ok......but repeated comments related.......not so much.
    4 points
  46. A disqualified player may remain on the sidelines. However, if a coach is ejected he must leave the facility and have no contact with the team for the remainder of the contest. How to handle potentially inflammatory exchanges between teams is something that is so situation-specific, you can’t really develop a hard and fast protocol for dealing with them. The Referee has wide discretion to adapt an approach to fit the circumstances. I think it is a bad idea for the officials to address a team in the locker room on that subject. They should deal strictly with the head coach. I’ll relate one anecdote that provides an example of a way to deal with it. I was the Referee on a college game involving two teams with a well known history of not liking one another. By the middle of the 1st quarter there had been several incidents of pushing and shoving, and 4 dead ball personal fouls. I sent both teams to their benches and called the head coaches to the middle of the field. They both began explaining how the other team was the instigator, and I cut them off, saying “ I didn’t bring you out here to hear what you had to say. I brought you out here so you could hear what I have to say. Any pushing or shoving is now going to be penalized as a personal foul — no leeway. And any dead ball personal foul or unsportsmanlike act is going to be an ejection. Now, without further comment, go back to your sidelines and communicate that to your players. End of discussion.” One approach that I’ve seen used in the case of skirmishes where nonplayers enter the field, or where there is a significant pregame incident, is to assess an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on every player and coach on both teams. This means that any subsequent unsportsmanlike act results in mandatory disqualification of the offender. As to racial remarks, the IHSAA has a zero tolerance policy. If an official hears it, immediate disqualification is warranted.
    4 points
  47. Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3 GS finally won a Sectional with All-American Boy Brady! Going to be a long trip for the Clown and his homies...... Leavin Friday mornin, so we can drink and meet some Fort Branch ladies! Throw out a local establishment or two, just know the Clown and crew will be buzzed before you! So lock your doors and hide yo' wives.... cause Stink Town is coming to wreck the Branch and boogie all night!
    4 points
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