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  1. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day and I’ll say it right to your face
    12 points
  2. Buy your Potato farm for retirement yet in Idaho ? 😃
    7 points
  3. 46 years at Scecina as an assistant and head coach...quite an impressive run. He was an assistant coach there for all 5 of my brothers. The last of my brothers graduated in 1982; probably the most infamous class in Scecina history. 😄 Coach Hurrle is a class act, and so many have been blessed to be on his teams and in his classrooms. Best of luck Coach Hurrle in your retirement. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/14/indiana-high-school-football-coaching-legend-ott-hurrle-retires-scecina-memorial-ihsaa/72972519007/
    6 points
  4. Coach Hurrle is definitely one of the good guys and truly a legend in the coaching ranks. His years of service have meant so much for the school and the east side of Indianapolis. He will be missed but wish him the best in his well deserved retirement. Ott was a few years ahead of me at Scecina so I didn’t play for him but two of my brothers did (75 & 76). Two of my sons played for him, one was a sophmore on the 94 team that was arguably their best team. They were the last team to beat Roncalli and unfortunately lost their running back (Donald Winston) to an injury in the semi state game. Lost that game by one as the second attempt of the point after was botched, the first one was good but flag was thrown late for an equipment infraction (mouthpiece wasn’t in on a lineman). The story for that experience was always something I marveled at as the holder talked about his experience at the senior retreats for the next couple of years. Great guy and highly successful. Coach left the next year and unfortunately my son suffered thru a winless senior year. The other son was on the state losses as a sophmore and junior. (I know 20 years apart as I had kids in there for 20 out of 21 straight years. 🤓 ) They were the team that was moved up for being to successful when they never won a championship. That term has always baffled me as you look back at that move when it happened. It was an overtime game in the semi state against Linton. Scecina kicked a field goal to go up 3. Linton takes it to fourth and goal from the one. Could have kicked the field goal but decided to go for the win. So if they score they go to state and Scecina stays in 1A and has a good shot at state the next year. If they stop them on one play they are deemed to successful. Got to admit that play was pretty awesome. Now I have a grandson that played as a freshman on the varsity team. It was a little scary as he was only about 115lbs. His first interaction with Coach Hurrle was hilarious in films after his first catch. Scored a couple of touchdowns and had a great year. The thing is that anyone involved with this program thru the Hurrle years could give you stories that would reflect the same feelings. He coached football but developed character. Job Well Done Coach and Enjoy your retirement
    6 points
  5. My 2 cents: I first saw Westfield when they came up to play Merrillville in the semistate in November, 2020. Before the game even started, I knew Merrillville was in trouble. Even in the pregame, you could see Westfield was extremely well-organized and disciplined. And that’s the way they played. Not extraordinarily athletic, but no missed assignments, no bad body language, no stupid penalties. Their sideline ran as smoothly as I’ve ever seen in a great big game on the road. In that regard, I felt they were comparable to Center Grove. In my view, these are the signs of a very well-coached team: discipline and execution. In the times I’ve seen them after that, same thing.
    5 points
  6. Spoiler alert: It's not just Westfield.
    4 points
  7. Is this really what some people in big schools worry about? Does it eat away at your person every time a 1A champion is crowned? I mean, find something worthwhile to worry about in life. Sheesh. Oh, and they already do this. Class 1A State Champion Class 2A State Champion, etc.
    3 points
  8. Quick. Someone tell Snider its championship is devalued since 5A only had 31 teams last year.
    3 points
  9. 2 points
  10. How can it not be? Apparently this is what the American citizens want. I see NO positive outcome from this election. My only hope is whoever loses shuts the f…up and rides off into the sunset….. But we all know this ends in a shitstorm.
    2 points
  11. Saw reports there was 4 or 5 suitors asking for JF, but JF's Agent requested that those teams not be the final destination and led them to Pittsburgh. I believed Poles then and I do now, when he said he was going to "do right' for JF when he makes his decision. Rooting for the kid.
    2 points
  12. Happy St. Patrick’s Day to all the “Irish” out there, from the Fightin’ Irish!
    2 points
  13. No doubt whatsoever. Probably the best player with his hand in the dirt since Reggie White. But — and I heard this on the radio today — please stop with the comparisons to Lawrence Taylor as the greatest defensive player of all time. LT completely revolutionized the way 2 different positions — offensive tackle and outside linebacker — were played. They had to invent a new position (“edge rusher”) to describe what he did. Just read The Blind Side. Or, you can just ask Joe Theismann. 😉
    2 points
  14. I'm all in for a second high school. More opportunities for kids. Think about it, double the number of kids playing in all athletics. I think these large mega schools are a disservice to the community.
    2 points
  15. When it comes to athletics, we all know that it's not "all about the kids" in most cases (yes, there are outliers). It's all about the egos. Anyone who thinks differently is just kidding themselves.
    2 points
  16. Another spoiler alert. Even worse, some people get paid a lot more to throw a ball in a little hoop.
    2 points
  17. There is a demographic study on Westfield's website.....it projects 3900 in 33-34...slide 18 https://www.wws.k12.in.us/about-us/destination-westfield
    2 points
  18. If it a private sector salary then it is really nobody's business. But if that salary comes from taxpayer funds then it behooves the public to be vigilant and questioning.
    2 points
  19. "No time", yet posting on a high school football message board on a weekday morning, lol.
    2 points
  20. Just putting this out there: Gateway in INdiana where this data comes from is ANY MONEY the school corp pays you. For instance, when I look at my "gateway" number, it is more than the teaching contract with the 2 varsity sports I coach and its stipends. I do Middle School reffing for my AD, school has to put it on my payroll , which came from central office decision, so be it, but those type of things raises the number on Gateway. Just throwing it out there.
    2 points
  21. DE Levi Oxley (Reitz) and DT Delshan Davis (North) were chosen to play in the North South All-Star game!
    2 points
  22. That's a great question. I'm in agreement with you as far as "I don't think you can put a price tag on the development of young people," is concerned. Which is why whether coach Gilbert (or others like him) is compensated via an ever flowing athletic revenue stream or a community-wide tax "burden" (we both agree on the definition of burden here), I don't believe it matters. I believe he is fairly compensated for the work he's done/ doing and that if more places around the state (and dare I say country) followed suit, they would in turn see similar success and therefore enhance the culture of their schools and communities.
    2 points
  23. https://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/03/13/does-the-ncaa-pay-income-taxes-players-nil-deals-caitlin-clark/72931145007/ Agreed. The NCAA and it's member institutions should all be taxed.
    2 points
  24. 1. Money, great SES, two parent households, etc. 2. One of, if not THE fastest growing area of population in the state. 3. Facilities are top notch. 4. Best conference in Indiana FORCES them to stay competitive (a rising tide raises all boats). 5. Recent state championship appearance/success that can be sold as a cultural piece to the current crop of student athletes. 6. Pay/teaching schedule. Just my opinion.
    2 points
  25. Top 5 job in Indiana...maybe better.
    2 points
  26. If this is a legitimate concern, we could just utilize our brain power (decision makers) and write a clause or bylaw into the classification rules that would allow 1A to be corrected/ adjusted to always have 32 teams, given extreme circumstances such as "teams in 1A drop football or close all together in a 2 year cycle, (list other reasons), or otherwise." I was even kind enough to begin drafting the clause for 'em! Lol I'll be honest, one of my primary reasons for supporting 1A having 32 teams as opposed to 5A is the health and safety of the 1A players. Do we truthfully believe that it's "more grueling" for 5A schools with rosters of anywhere from 50-100 guys to go through their season than it is for 15-35 guys on 1A rosters, most of whom are playing all 3 ways? Let's give those 1A guys the extra week to get healthy before the postseason. Valpo, Merrillville, Whiteland, Decatur Central, and the like will manage just fine without a Bye, in my opinion. My initial thought/ question. I just decided to play along and attempt a solution for HoopsCoach's proposed problem.
    2 points
  27. Not really a surprise to the locals here. Coach Gilbert ran for Westfield mayor last year, but lost to current mayor Scott Willis in the May Republican primary. With Coach Miracle taking over, a long time Gilbert assistant, the program is in good hands.
    2 points
  28. From the Indy Star article link at the top of this thread. This pretty much answers the question about the former assistant now head coach: The plan is already in place for Gilbert’s replacement. Josh Miracle, an assistant for Gilbert the past 13 years, will take over for Gilbert. Miracle has been the associate head coach and defensive coordinator for the past decade and was named the Frank Broyles Award winner for the top assistant in Indiana last season.
    1 point
  29. Tried to tell ya.
    1 point
  30. I think I found my answer in what constitutes a Top 5 job. That excludes any team from FWCS being in the Top 100.
    1 point
  31. If this doesn’t open eyeballs, nothing will.
    1 point
  32. I believe what he is saying is that less than 32 teams would devalue a championship. 5A and 6A have 32 currently and have a much less of a chance at shutting down a program before the season begins or not being able to finish because of injury. 1A could begin with 32 and be at 28 by the end of a two year cycle. I know a few years ago (2021?) we had at least two 1A schools shut the program down right before the season began. It's not a ridiculous thing to consider.
    1 point
  33. How ironic would it be if the Bears were “stuck” with Fields because they couldn’t unload him … and then he turned into the multi-threat franchise QB we saw flashes of this past season? You can bet everyone would be lined up to take credit for that, when the reality is they busted their butts to try and ship him out of town.
    1 point
  34. Swift I think is a interesting signing for Bears, reasonable price, but not stupid price, essentially a 2 year contract. Love the Safety Byrad signing and especially the price also. Now with all the QB movements that have occurred: What is logically known? Vikings (just signed Sam Darnold) Pats (Just signed Jacoby Brisett) Commanders. (Still has Sam Howell) 11th, 3rd, 2nd picks How bout this scenario: Vikings send: Justin Jefferson, 11th overall, 4th/5th in 2024: 1st and 3rd in 2025: 2nd in 2026 For 1st overall Pick in 2024: 4th in 25: 3rd in 26. Extend JJ right away. Draft J.J. at 9 Draft best EDGE/BOARD PLAYER at 11. Fields plays next 2 years with JJ and behind him. Give Bears a chance to see if this Coach can unlock talent of Fields, if he does and he turns out to be that guy, then you have trade capitol of JJ LETS GO!!!
    1 point
  35. How much value is there in a 1A state championship after 3-4 teams in the class drop football or close all together in a 2 year cycle? That is my primary reason for opposing 1A having only 32 schools.
    1 point
  36. Bump , 4 straight but a Decommitment from 5-star Liam McNeely I do ultimately think he is in the middle category but who knows. Clearly important people (Buckner and large donors) want Woodson for the long haul . the biggest win for Woodson came in the form of Senior Guards Trey Galloway and Anthony Leal announcing they would return for a 5th year . This will take a little burden of the portal needs off IU especially if the cook / Simon families write checks big enough for Reneau and Mgbako to return . needs will be focused on 1) Rim protecting Center (Replacing Ware) 2) experienced ball handing PG 3) Athletic swing man who can guard 1-3 4) knock down 3 pt shooter I really have no idea of what will transpire this week , next year, or 3 years from now at this point I’m done guessing what will happen. Just along for the ride I guess
    1 point
  37. My eyes went crossed eyed typing it, similar to @oldtimeqb while reading. Lol I'll correct it here now... 3A would be... 64 Teams. Largest School = Knox 520, Smallest School = Churubusco 378, Enrollment % Difference = 1.38%
    1 point
  38. Nothing will change in DC until congressional term limits are put in place.
    1 point
  39. I'll admit, it's not easy to figure out and wasn't easy to attempt to figure out/ type out. Lol but I think I saw somehow/ somewhere throughout this thread that we have 312 football playing schools? In all honesty, I wanted a much simpler solution than the one I provided but all of the other options I attempted resulted in a lot of the same problems we have currently (or a numbers issue due to fitting everyone into the playoffs). Whereas the class breakdowns of my insanely confusing idea (probably its new title lol) are more equitable for almost the entire state, short of the bottom half of 8A (impossible to fix enrollment differential if Carmel is the top of the class). That is why I added this extra confusing Open Division to try and eliminate some of the "heavy hitters" from 8A each year to make it more "equitable" for those other 8A teams that have never had a chance and probably still don't/ won't until the necessary changes are made in either their schools, communities, households, or all of those to compete under the current format or any like it.
    1 point
  40. Any good Pizza around there? I missed this. Lakeside Pizza sounds like a winner. I'm a trucker so it will be soft drinks and water for me only.
    1 point
  41. I was actually trying to take a nap this afternoon and was forced to watch about the last five minutes. I believe I was awakened to her slamming her hand down on the bed screaming WTF are you thinking? My poor wife!
    1 point
  42. I actually did watch a little mainly because there wasn’t squat on TV Thursday night and The Swamp People’s snake hunt show came on. Several take aways: Man I don’t think any of the geriatric power brokers that run things have a clue the crap I’m dealing with living my life, much of which has been caused by them to begin with. Biden admonishing the Supremes then stating women are not without electoral power…….Joe holds like several degrees, graduated top in his law class, multiple majors, all the stuff he spews….and apparently he neither understands the separation of powers or the fact the Supremes have lifetime appointments. Biden has all the answers, if congress would just give him the money. Well Mr Biden, much like your “predecessor” that you like to talk about, you had two years with control of all three houses, and you produced exactly the same thing as he did to help the American people, jack shit! Once you realize that both parties exist to: A) Raise money B) Get elected Everything else becomes crystal clear.
    1 point
  43. Lakeside Pizza, a couple minutes north of town on State Road 3, has wood fired pizza and a lot of out-of-towners go there for the good pizza, sandwiches, and Brown County wine. Can’t go wrong there. Crimson Oak is another great spot. I actually just ate there tonight. The food is fancy so it’s a little pricier but it’s so good. Heck, it’s so good that Chris Evans (a.k.a. Captain America) stopped in to eat there last fall. And, no, I’m not kidding.
    1 point
  44. Love the enthusiasm, but my eyes went cross-eyed trying to figure this out.
    1 point
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