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It is a shame the only team you will see from Indiana will be a Indy Crimson Knights homeschool. There are plenty of great teams around the State. I wish you luck on your venture looks like a full slate of games on your plate.

Definitely would have been interesting. The 2002 Ben Davis team had 3 losses that year. Penn 30-14, Warren Central 17-14 in OT, and Center Grove 17-16 in the regular season. They avenged the loss to Warren Central in Regionals winning 35-28 in OT (both games with WC went to OT) and avenged the loss to Center Grove in Semi-State winning 21-3. After Valpo's 16-15 win over Penn they lost to FW Snider 28-17 to Snider in FW. Snider lost to BD in State 31-7. Would have definitely been interesting.

It sounds good except last year there were 87 games against out of State schools (some years that number is higher and some lower). So as mentioned Sagarin is flawed and inaccurate since there were 87 games played against teams outside of Indiana. If all teams only played Indiana schools it would be prefect, but that is not the reality we live in. If the State were to go to any form of seeding Sagarin would not be the proper system to use.

Possibly. That being said Snider was having a tough time stopping RB Darren Evans (166 yds 1 TD) and QB Dexter Taylor (104 yds 3 TD's). WC only threw 3 passes the entire game (one was a 99 yd TD). Snider still was productive without Lewis, LCJ Martin (123 yds 0 TD) and QB Hayden (107 yds 1 TD threw for 74 and 2 TD's). Nobody knows what would have happened, Snider played well in that game offensively without Lewis though.

Who F.W. Snider with 219? I only kid I know that Snider just moved up to 6A. What amazes me is that Carmel is only 2 games behind CG. Just seems like there have been many wins by CG would have been more separation.

Yes it was a typo it won't let me fix it.

I have watched a few good ones. Vlahogeorge Laff Jeff Richard McCutcheon Schiff Ev Mater Dei Adams West Laff Lindauer Ev. Mater Dei Puricha Ritter (both of them) Allen Gibson Southern Zachary Sheridan Banks Ben Davis Two that really stood out were Banks and Zachary. Both were electric when they had the football and also were very good defensive players. Watching Banks play in HS was a treat. It didn't matter if it was at QB running or throwing, at DB, or even on returns he was very electric.

Well one thing we do know. If we were to go to Ben Davis football field and throw #24 Steve Holman (91 BD Running Back) and #21 Alijah Price (current BD Running Back) on the field in pads I know who I would put my money on. I know what your thinking, Price. Well to @temptation chagrin I am taking Holman because I am relying on the crafty ole' veteran to use a foot to trip Price! All kidding aside you are 100% spot on BTF.

I am very well aware of the fact Sagarin only measures in-state performances. It is the single largest flaw of the Sagarin ratings. The reason Sagarin only measures in-state performances has absolutely nothing to do with out of state games can be played with different set of rules. With Indiana's travel rules all the states that Indiana could play against are members of the NHFS (Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Missouri). So any changes in rules would be very minor (like running clock that has only recently been used in Indiana). The reason Sagarin does not measure out of state opponents is because it does not want to gather data of the out of state opponents record and their opponents record etc. Ultimately it does not matter because Indiana's football tournament is an all in format with no seeding. So you don't need rankings only ping pong balls and a bingo tumbler. Ohio has a terrific computer ranking system. If you want accurate computer rankings, Sagarin is not accurate because not every team in Indiana plays only Indiana schools, it also can become inaccurate when a conference has no out of conference competition. I sleep perfectly fine every night.

I should probably also note that Calpreps only goes back to 2003.

There are major flaws in Sagarin especially with teams that have out of State opponents or teams that are locked into only conference teams. I have stating that for years. Here are a look at CalPreps Dynasty ratings for Indiana (only did top 25 first photo) and Top Single Season (only did top 25 2nd, 3rd, 4th photo). Note the 2015 CG team came in at #24

I will agree it is hard for me to not place 2006 or 2003 Warren Central teams among the top. I watched the 2003 Warren Central team absolutely obliterate 2002 and 2003 Ohio Div 1 State Champions Cincinnati Elder 45-20 at the Ryle Classic in Ryle KY. That 2003 WC team let their guard down and lost to Carmel and a shocker to LN. The 2006 WC team though were dominant, hard to believe that was 18 years ago.

I am not so sure I would say 2015 wasn't a strong year in 6A. Center Grove's Titus McCoy was a fantastic RB. There were some terrific games in the South Bracket that year. Cathedral (in 6A at the time) lost in 2 OT's 37-34 in a great game to Brandon Peters led Avon at Avon and Center Grove edged out Warren Central 24-13. Then Center Grove in 2 OT's squeaked by Brandon Peters (Indiana Mr. Football and Gatorade Player of the year) led Avon 35-34 at Center Grove. Back to back double OT games for Avon. In the North you had Penn upset a 2 loss Carmel team (Cincy LaSalle and Center Grove) at Penn. Penn lost to CG 28-16. CG and Carmel reloaded and played for State the following year with Camel besting CG in OT 16-13 in a great game. I would say it was a strong year in 2015 for 6A just a little more parity and not one team showing total dominance.

Agreed they were nasty! I get it many in the current don't know or don't realize the 1991 Ben Davis Giants and their 26 game win streak and National Championship awarded after they beat Penn for State Championship in 1991. Steve Holman (I believe they called him the Batman if memory serves me correct) was terrific. Ings wasn't too shabby of a QB either. They also had a fantastic kicker, I remember in 1992 watching Cathedral @ Ben Davis and Hines (BDHS) and Ford (CHS) on kickoff kicking it through the uprights, it was amazing to see in person at the time. I did find this little gem of the 1991 Ben Davis Giants National Championship team (has a great sound track for all the history buffs too) disclaimer some of the film brightness washes out the players.

I kind of seriously thought he would end up at San Diego St. Hearing Coach Lewis took the Head Coaching position and O'Neil mentioning some interest from the West Coast. Lewis was the one recruiting him to Colorado so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise. San Diego St. signed what was deemed the Mountain West's top rated recruiting class. As for Danny O'Neil what a joy to be able to head to San Diego to play football for college big difference in weather!