CP fed

2 hours ago, foxbat said:

While the game may have never been in doubt, something still kept a high-powered Lutheran offense in check.  Like you said, Lutheran put up 35 on Trader's Point in the first quarter, but put up less than that in a whole game against Covenant Christian.  Just curious as to what you think contributed to that.  Not saying it as a smart-*ss, I'm honestly curious as to your assessment as to what Covenant was able to do as a 1A school that only a 4A school was able to do in the first game.  As I alluded to before, defense was more important for that game and, I'll still hang my hat on the fact that defense will be what ends up playing the factor in Saturday's game.  I could be completely wrong on this, but if Covenant Christian can hold Lutheran to 28, then it's certainly not unreasonable that LCC could do the same.  If LCC can do that, then it becomes a question of defense ... again, as I alluded to.

I'm not sure that a 1-point lead at half denotes being in control of the game.  And, as for implosion, that would imply that Trader's Point brought the loss on themselves by their own actions.  I think that does injustice to both LCC and Trader's Point as Trader's Point was a very disciplined team with a lot of heart and a lot of skill.  If you were at that game, what you would have seen is that, in the 3rd quarter, LCC's defense took that game.  Trader's Point didn't give it away and they didn't make it easy.

Again, Lutheran is #1 for a reason and they have a strong program and have been close for the last three years.  LCC is happy to be where it is given that this should have been a rebuilding year and it is definitely the underdog at this point.  Tell you what ... I'm fairly sure that LCC isn't a six-TD underdog as you alluded to above.  You give me LCC and the six TDs.  Lutheran covers your spread, I'll cover your cost to be a GID Booster.  Lutheran doesn't cover your 42-point spread and you foot the bill and become a GID Booster.  A little friendly wager without really betting and either way, it's a win-win ... you get to be a GID Booster and GID gets another booster and more support ... and if Luther covers that 6-TD spread you get another win in that I pay for you to not have to see the ads.

I will not talk about kids play directly in Tp LCC game, but there were plays thay were missed by TP.  Covenant Christian game, we had a ton of dropped passes. Biggest miss on us, but good teams can win ugly. Saturday game, just felt off.  As for my prediction its my prediction,  you have yours too. Well find out friday. Btw, love the ads😉

2 hours ago, foxbat said:

 

With no disrespect, it's deja vu all over again.  That speed argument has been made before and LCC's perfectly fine playing on the fast turf of LOS.  I'm not expecting this to devolve into a "city speed vs. county speed" thread like the one in 2011, but LCC also has some kids that will be much faster on LOS turf than most folks have seen all year. 

As for speed like West Lafayette, there's not a team in 1A that has, or is close to, speed like West Lafayette.  Also, while I appreciate White's numbers, his QB rating is around 105 while Adams' QB rating was around 132.  While White's completion rate is a respectable 59%, Adams' completion rate was over 72% and Adams' put up those numbers with more completions than White had attempts for the season ... on a shorter season.

This game will be less a game of speed and more a game of defense.  I'm not allowed to comment on specific analysis, but there are two key components for Lutheran to stymie LCC and speed isn't one of them.   As for common opponents, somehow Covenant Christian was able keep Lutheran to just 28 points on Lutheran's home turf field while they gave up 38 points to Trader's Point.  The transitive properties in football, especially 1A football at tourney time, or even end of season time, don't tend to work on a linear scale.  As @BendNotBreak tends to say, sometimes it's about those intangibles.

With all of that said, LCC finds itself in a unique position of being underdog in a state title game for the first time this millennia from what I gather.  Lutheran is #1 in 1A for a reason and will be a formidable foe.  LCC has a lot to overcome and have an uphill climb, but I don't see them at a six TD disadvantage.  No disrespect intended.

 

Edit:  Apparently I was wrong about it not devolving into a city speed vs. county speed ala Scecina in 2011. 😀

U said the same thing about covenant Christian last week. Our worst game of the season, still was never in doubt. I have no doubt LCC is a good team, and the players will play.  As for city or county speed thats on you. I watch the teams and see what i see as far as speed. Fast is fast

14 minutes ago, CP fed said:

Same thing weve heard last two weeks,  let me ask you a question,  what happen to LCC when they played teams with speed? See west Lafayette score. We are playing on the fastest field in the nfl. Lutheran 49-7 .

One other thing most people look at are common opponents,  Trader's Point was in control of the game until midway 3rd quarter against LCC until they imploded. Lutheran put up 35 points in the first quarter on the way to 63 against against TP. Ask kdets89 what their fans were saying about Lutheran. 

12 hours ago, foxbat said:

Covenant Christian's highlights vs. Indy Lutheran for those looking for hints as to how to stymie the offense and go after the defense.

https://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/covenant-christian-warriors-(indianapolis,in)/football/videos.htm?videoid=c1b8043a-cb7d-464f-992a-99b8f490a2c7

 

Same thing weve heard last two weeks,  let me ask you a question,  what happen to LCC when they played teams with speed? See west Lafayette score. We are playing on the fastest field in the nfl. Lutheran 49-7 .

On 11/25/2019 at 9:55 AM, foxbat said:

Are there official feeder schools into Indy Lutheran or is it more general?  I know that Calvary Lutheran is right in Indy Lutheran's backyard ... about a 10-minute drive ...  but didn't know if it was more of a full feeder program or just a general area collector.

There are quite a few calavary kids, but st. John, zion and trinity lutheran are in the mix.

12 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Prayers for the family and community. 

13 hours ago, DT said:

My point is simple.  Due to clear and obvious built in advantages, private schools should never be allowed to compete in the smallest class, regardless of enrollment

 

Very rare.  Fishers comes to mind.  

U can go to the game and stage a protest 

12 hours ago, foxbat said:

Tell that to Faith Christian ... or St. James Lutheran High School in Lafayette.

Obvious advantages? Pay a crap load of money to get a good education for youe child. My son has played saint football since he was in the first grade. They won their confrence almost every year.  Good players  and kids, but 2/3 of them go to Franklin central,  Perry M, southport, new pal. Triton.  We a great feeder program for youth football,  it benefits our team and other schools too. Multiple lineman starting at new pal played jr. Saint.  Where is the advantage?

1 hour ago, Donnie Baker said:

I think Lutherans will put up more than 21

Im thinking 42-14 Lutheran.  Mcfadden will score, alot...

1 hour ago, SenatorFan said:

I admit this game will be a challenge for us, just want to emphasize that this group of Senators have earned the right to be on the field with any 1A team in the state. 
I’m believing for an upset by the Senators. We are playing the best football we have played all 

LUTHERAN did go on to outscore them 31-0 in the second half of that game.  I think  W W wont be able to put points up like Lutheran can, should be fun.

On 11/16/2019 at 1:59 PM, miner_35 said:

Looks like I was wrong on linton being the toughest team on Lutherans schedule this year if they played...

Id say Triton central, beech grove, ritter and scecina are all better than Linton. All but Beech Grove made it to sectional finals. Triton's playing semi state in 2a. So, sometimes we get caught in a bubble of what we see and think there is nothing comparable.  

On 11/13/2019 at 7:07 PM, lp3coda said:

That's odd. PH had not one, but two chances to beat NV yet they lost both times. The only loss NV has on their season is Linton. Offense, defense, special teams.....they all play their part. That's why it's called a Team win. 

Lutheran is a tough opponent, but it looks like their defense tends to give up some points. And NV is not the team they want to do that with. 

I'll take NV in this game. Think it will be a close game but not nearly as close as NV vs PH. 

On 11/13/2019 at 7:07 PM, lp3coda said:

That's odd. PH had not one, but two chances to beat NV yet they lost both times. The only loss NV has on their season is Linton. Offense, defense, special teams.....they all play their part. That's why it's called a Team win. 

Lutheran is a tough opponent, but it looks like their defense tends to give up some points. And NV is not the team they want to do that with. 

I'll take NV in this game. Think it will be a close game but not nearly as close as NV vs PH. 

You were right.

On 11/13/2019 at 7:07 PM, lp3coda said:

That's odd. PH had not one, but two chances to beat NV yet they lost both times. The only loss NV has on their season is Linton. Offense, defense, special teams.....they all play their part. That's why it's called a Team win. 

Lutheran is a tough opponent, but it looks like their defense tends to give up some points. And NV is not the team they want to do that with. 

I'll take NV in this game. Think it will be a close game but not nearly as close as NV vs PH. 

You were right.