PhilLee

3 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

He's not leaving IU's rocket ship.

Any coach worth his salt will get out of IU as soon as they can.  Because it won't last. 

1.  Eliminate pre-season scrimmage. Add 10th regular season game. Going to be VITAL for athletic budgets for the next few years to bring in added revenues, from the Covid foolishness we've dealt with in 2020.   Having a guarantee of 5 home games every year and being able to schedule a 10th game against a rival/someone who will generate a big gate makes all the sense in the world.  The scrimmage is useless and has been for years anyway. 

2. Seed top 2 teams in each sectional.  Put them in opposite brackets. Neutral sites at regional and semi-states.   Being forced to travel 150 miles on a school bus on a  Friday to play on someone's home field, when that host may be a weaker opponent is not fair.  Playing regional or semi-state games on somebody's crappy, drenched worn out grass field is also backwards thinking.  Its not 1986 anymore.  Turf is everywhere.  These are supposed to be "the best of the best" teams playing at this level of the playoffs.  Make the field conditions the best they can be too. 

3.  Split 5A and 6A into 16 teams in north and 16 in south (as it is today).  2 sectionals in each.  Play 3 games to win sectional.  One game to win regional.  No more semi-state.  Some of these 5A and 6A sectionals are completely unbalanced from a competitive standpoint.  Ben Davis could play their freshmen team and win the sectional they were in the past 2 years.  Make it mean something to win a sectional again in 5A and 6A.  Again seed the top 2 teams in each sectional.  Make the regular season count for something.  This does this. 

4.  If we have to have the "feel good" running clock nonsense, make it after 42 points in the 2nd half instead.  Completely disagree with giving kids fewer opportunities to play the game.  Especially with how JV and freshmen teams are dwindling (from 3A down) all over the state.  Varsity games can be a way for younger kids to get experience playing.  So make the running clock deal harder to get to.  35 points is not enough, with the way teams score more points nowadays. 

5.  

3A South is tricky but here is what I have right now:

29- Tri-West, South Vermillion, Monrovia, Danville, Indy Washington, Western Boone, Speedway, Vincennes

30- South Dearborn, Lawrenceburg, Greensburg, Batesville, Rushville, Indian Creek, Franklin County, Brown County

31- Salem, North Harrison, Scottsburg, Madison, Charlestown, Corydon, Owen Valley, Edgewood

32- Southridge, Heritage Hills, Mt. Vernon, Princeton, Gibson Southern, Washington, Ev Bosse, Pike Central

On 11/30/2020 at 10:53 AM, Coach Harvey said:

My best guess for 5a. 

9: Merrillville, Munster, Hammond Morton, Hammond Central

10: Michigan City, LaPorte, South Bend Adams, Valparaiso

11: Huntington North, Goshen, Concord, Mishawaka

12: FW Northrop, FW North Side, FW Bishop Dwenger, FW Snider

13: New Palestine, Kokomo, McCutcheon, Anderson

14: Whiteland, Decatur Central, Indpls. Cathedral, Plainfield

15: Bloomington South, Bloomington North, Columbus East, Franklin

16: New Albany, Floyd Central, Castle, Seymour

Cathedral is farther north then New Pal.  And those 3 northern school don't need to pass Cathedral on the way to play New Pal.

Here is a more realistic look at 5A South (and Kokomo, McCutcheon and Anderson have to come south):

13- Cathedral, Anderson, McCutcheon and Kokomo

14- Decatur Central, Plainfield, Bloomington North, Bloomington South

15- Whiteland, Columbus East, Franklin, New Palestine

16- Castle, New Albany, Floyd Central and Seymour

9- Michigan City, LaPorte, Valparaiso and Merrilville

10- SB Adams, Concord, 

10- 

Warren Central's sophomore class is incredibly talented.  Anyone who thinks they aren't going to be back in the mix next year, is sadly mistaken. 

12 hours ago, TheDoctor22 said:

 

Same can be said for Roncalli.  This year was just the start for Roncalli.  They have had (and continue to have) a ton of talent coming up through the south deanery CYO schools recently.  They get a much larger majority of their CYO kids than the other deanery catholic schools.  I would throw Memorial in the mix as well, I hear they have a lot coming back next year too.  Unfortunately, Chatard won't even be in the conversation in 4A next year.

 

Roncalli has had zero success in recent years dealing with Chatard.  Plus Chatard's younger classes coming up are loaded. I would not be so quick to eliminate them from the conversation. 

4 minutes ago, Purdue Pete said:

Danville (Along with GS, LB, etc) could return their entire team and not challenge Marian.  Will have to see how sectional 28 shakes out next year but top 5 teams in 3A were from the north in 3a this year.  South was a joke.

From the starters from the game on Saturday, Danville only returns 3 starters on offense.  Western Boone will likely be in the southern half of 3A, if the IHSAA doesn't screw it up again.  Gibson Southern has a Purdue recruit back at QB.  Lawrenceburg returns their QB, who threw for 2000 yards and ran for 1000.  Plus 2 of 3 leading receivers and 4 top tacklers. 

4 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

The alignment committees tend to prefer to modify the current alignment as little as possible. 

 

 

Yes, how dare them spend any time to do something different.  Better to keep the status quo and make sure we continue to have as many blowouts in championship games as we can. 

And lets all laugh at the poor fools in Illinois and Michigan in the process.  We would have had 100% of games played without useless quarantines of perfectly healthy kids too.  Players played the game and practiced against one another every day and there wasn't mass carnage.  Fans attended games (almost everywhere) and ambulances weren't needed to cart them out of the stadium.

On to football season of 2021 when this idiocy will be a distant memory. 

Cathedral has seemed very lacksadasical at times tonight.  Almost as if they came into this game, already thinking they'd won the 5A title.  Pre-snap penalties, delay of game, missed tackles, poor reads by QB.  Not the most sharp performance I've seen from them. 

Zionsville has been feisty.  But when Cathedral puts the pedal down, its no contest.  And both teams probably know it. 

Has there ever been a state finalist with a worse defense statistically then Luers?  They are giving up 33 points a game.  

4 hours ago, Staxawax said:

SOS very much favors Chatard. Cathedral, Merrillville and Marian certainly prepare you more than Webo and Tri West.

Danville is the one that will need to up their game as no one they’ve played prepares them. I’m hoping they do and it’s a great final!

Chatard has beaten 2 teams handily (Merrillville and Roncalli) better then Danville, according to the Sagarin Ratings.  Plus East Central who is ranked 1 spot lower.  Plus played Cathedral, Brebeuf twice, FW Concordia (#4 team in 3A) and Mishawaka Marian (#3 in 3A).  That's a rough schedule for a 3A team.  One that they handled very well. 

Danville unfortunately lost, by far, their toughest game off of their schedule when they cancelled on Mooresville early in the year.  Which would have been a great gauge for this game.  And also lost the Lebanon game, which would have been their 4th toughest regular season game.  Just bad luck that two of the better games for them had to be cancelled.   

1 hour ago, foxbat said:

I suspect the answer to this is one word: liability. 

Yes because there have been so many instances of people catching a cold from attending football games at the professional, collegiate or high school level since August.  As in ZERO. 

1 minute ago, BigBH said:

You must be a Chatard expert so tell me how they prepare?

They beat the hell out of teams in the state championship game.  And play as hard as any team does in the state.  Ask Roncalli (who just embarrassed 2 top 5 4A teams the past 2 weeks) what a motivated Chatard team is like to play against.  I'm not saying that Chatard wins or loses this game.  But we have decades of proof to go on, with numerous other opponents who some thought were all set to "get after" Chatard with a state championship on the line.   

Here are the last 10 state championship games BC has played in:

2019- Win over Heritage Hills 34-3

2015- Win over West Lafayette 31-7

2012- Win over Hamilton Heights 30-13

2011- Win over SB St Joe 21-7

2010- Win over SB St Joe 28-14

2007- Win over SB St Joe 31-7

2006- Win over Norwell 7-0

2005- Loss to Northwood 7-0

2003- Win over Northwood 49-0

2002- Win over Andrean 31-12

I'd say 9-1, while allowing an average of under 10 points a game is pretty stout.  That's the history of this program in this game. Doesn't mean 2020 plays out the same way but there's a long track record that says it may. 

Southern Indiana football was awful this year.  That's what we learned tonight.  

1 minute ago, BigBH said:

you just might be correct....Danville plays with an edge that Chatard will not expect....they won't be favored but  Danville will win fairly easily

Chatard won't be expecting it?  You understand anything about how Chatard prepares, especially at this time of year?  Check the state championship game scores from the past 20 years.  They usually rise to the occasion. 

15 minutes ago, superjay said:

A circle, a square, a rectangle.  Doesn’t matter, Danville makes it 3 in a row next weekend.

It actually does matter. If you know anything about Chatard. 

1 hour ago, superjay said:

Told you dummies 2 scores.  I was being nice, I wanted to say 3.  Now Chatard gets it again.

I'm sure Chatard has had this game circled for a while. 

2 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Decatur Central left Conference Indiana for the Mid-State Conference in 2006. Not sure why they’d want to go back, especially considering Conference Indiana is weaker, unstable, and requires much more travel.

What if Columbus East and Roncalli join as well?  Along with Decatur Central.  Becomes a 9 school league.  Would make this a very interesting football conference in a hurry. 

Could see both Danville and Lebanon eventually moving into the Mid State.  And Decatur Central moving out of the Mid State, likely to Conference Indiana.

Danville has been adding Mid State schools to their sports schedules in several sports.  And Danville will be 4A for football starting the next cycle.  Lebanon is growing to the point they could be pushing 5A in the not-to-distant future.  

Hamilton Heights, West Lafayette and Sheridan could be possibilities to join the Sagamore, if and when Danville/Lebanon move. 

8 hours ago, Muda69 said:

I figured this is the best place to put this.   Back to virtually another lockdown:   https://www.indystar.com/story/news/health/2020/11/11/coronavirus-indiana-holcomb-announces-restrictions-amid-surge/6251537002/

 

Its NOT another lockdown.  Its basically a whole lot of nothing.  There wasn't much difference between Stage 4 and Stage 4.5 (which we were stuck in for weeks) and Stage 5.  Its just bogus crap, that doesn't mean anything. 

7 hours ago, Prospect said:

Allowing no fans in Marion county wouldn't shock me at all. 

Yes they were the original clowns that were going to shut down all fall sports in Marion County back in August.

When you don't have any clue what you are doing, you tend to make decisions that make no sense. 

8 hours ago, Prospect said:

I would expect to see parents only after this Friday.

Yes because we all know how many fans have come down with the sniffles from attending football games this fall.  If there's been any, we would have all heard about it from Team Fear by now. 

Cathedral will win because they are clearly the best team in 5A and its a coin-flip between them and CG for best team in the state.  But it won't be nearly the blowout on the scoreboard with Whiteland because WL will limit possessions and frustrate Cathedral at times with their offense.  So expect a 28-7 type of final score.  No running clock this week.    Still a fairly one-sided result but don't expect the high scoring rout that some are expecting. 

Shows how good a football conference the Mid State has been the past few years. 

And how bad a football conference Tech plays in.  When they somehow won 3 games this year.