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Cathedral's schedule gets pretty easy at this point. Irish only struggle with athletic teams like Brownsburg, Ben Davis, Warren Central, & Center Grove. I see a running clock in this one with Penn scoring late. 49-14 Irish.

I have Brownsburg in this one. Cathedral offensive line was not very good last week. Bulldogs DL is legit. Tough to pass ball from your back. I expect a very low scoring game. Outside of CG, Brownsburg was Cathedral's toughest opponent last year.

1 minute ago, Sports Freak20 said:

I don't think you were bashing on him.  He hasn't had his best game (hitting open receivers) the past 2 games however he is very good and young.  As you stated, penalties have been an issue.  Overall the offense needs to get their rhythm back a bit, they'll be fine.  Obviously, defense has been stellar and I don't see them giving up many points to anyone.

I have watched what DC and New Pal have learned primarily from Center Grove. Blitz the ‘A’ gap. QB wants to throw deep. Doesn’t have the time. I am looking for more of the short passes to the open guy like McCahill was good at. Zionsville held Dwenger to -7 yds. That is good defense. Last week, we started 2 drives inside the 25 and yielded 3 points. 

2 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

Yes, penalties are one of the things needs to be improved. In no way shape or for will I bash on the QB. I think he has played spectacular. Actually in parts of the season the QB's awareness and escape capabilities have extended plays and covered up with some miscues running the ball.  I wasn't expecting my post to end up turning into bashing the QB as I was talking Offense in general (penalties have been a problem at times on both sides of the ball).  I just think they need to get improve in some areas (nothing more than that they are still solid).

 

 

I don’t want to bash the QB either. My issue is his play needs to improve. Last week, 16 of 25 targets were to 1 receiver. Pretty easy to defend. Wooten has been open all year. QB best game was LaSalle. Tibbs was injured. I think he found 7 receivers. Page was amazing and hasn’t really seen the targets since. 

38 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

He's been very good. 2500 yards 28 TD's to just 2 INT's. 62% completion rate on 300+ attempts. Has also run for 8 more scores. 

As a sophomore and first year starter, he doesn't need to really be any more than a game manager with the defense behind him, but his played above and beyond expectation this year. 

Game manager is probably a good definition. 2 int stat is the most impressive. Rarely throws a bad ball, but regularly misses open receivers. Red zone against any decent team does not look good. QB play has to improve or we lose to Zionsville/Michigan City

On 11/13/2021 at 11:21 AM, FastpacedO said:

The Irish need to get better offensively. Won't effect this game in particular. They will likely win this game. They have to get better if they want to beat Michigan City or Zionsville come Thanksgiving weekend.  Defense looks good but offense needs to get better. Just an outside prospective

Could not agree more. QB play needs to improve. Decatur Central and New Pal both had same gameplan. Blitz 7. Blitz will come up the middle and from weak side. QB holds ball to long waiting for #13 to come open. Must check down to open receivers. Too many open receivers to throw to the same kid. Won't matter vs New Albany. This game will make everything look OK, but problem still exists.

On 11/6/2021 at 1:44 PM, CaptainHook said:

I don’t think a single kid on this team stepped in the field that night in 2019. That team was very senior/junior heavy. The current team is junior/sophomore heavy.

I think you have your teams mixed up. This year’s team is heavy senior dominated. I believe Cathedral has 19 of 22 starters seniors. 1 junior on defense and 2( Soph and junior) on offense. 

Cathedral played extremely well last night. My only concern was the number of injuries. 4 of the starting skill players are injured- both WRs Tibbs & Page, starting TE Spellacy and starting RB Mencer. On defense, Gilbert sat 2nd half with shoulder injury. Irish need to get healthy for Center Grove.

1 minute ago, Footballking16 said:

I was talking FBS Scholarship players. Langdon is playing at Columbia in FCS. Still a very commendable feat, but Cathedral isn't sending 10+ players a year to D1 schools which is what I was responding too. 

 FCS is still D1. If only FBS, I think 3 from 2022 and 3 from 2023

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

10 is an anomaly year. It's been stated that Cathedral's 2022 class is a generational class and I doubt when the dust settles Cathedral sends 10+ kids to D1 ranks from the 2022 class. Cathedral typically sends 1-2 kids a class to a D1 football school. It's really not that much different from Dwenger (a similar-sized school) once you really look at it. Cathedral's 2021 class that had arguably the best year in school history didn't send a single player to a D1 school. 

Last year’s Cathedral team was made up mostly of 2022 players. Only 3 main players were from class of 21(Langdon, McCahill, Jordon). Langdon is playing D1. Jordon could have played D1 but chose to play D1 baseball. This year, I see 6 maybe 7 2022 going D1 (FBS and FCS) and 3 from 2023. 

I know this will come off as unpopular, but here I go.... Do players for successful programs get penalized(not recognized) because of the overall success of their team? Center Grove's defense was outstanding. I believe they should have more players honored. Since you have the likes of curry, Booker, Schott, etc. already on team, should that limit other players? I watched the Chatard - Danville game. 2 very good teams, but way clearly one more dominate. Chatard's defense was lights out. Yet, only 1 defensive player on the any list. Danville actually had as many all state selections as Chatard. Is that possible? Roncalli beat Mount Vernon and Mooresville so bad that you could take an all star team and they would still lose to Roncalli. Yet, Mount Vernon and Mooresville each had 5 selections to Roncalli's 4. Cathedral dominated 5A and had 7 selections. I would say the weakest opponents they faced this year were Whiteland and Decatur Central. DC never stopped the Irish losing 42-7 yet had 5 defensive players. Whiteland got tourched in the trenches. They had 42 yards of total offense b4 Cathedral put in JV. But, Whiteland had 4 OL/DL/TE selections to Cathedral 2. If you were to tell me Danville has 5 all state players, I would assume Chatard to have 10. MV and Mooresville have 5 each, then Roncalli would have 10. If DC and Whiteland have 6 each, Cathedral could possibly have as many as 15. So I ask, do players on successful teams get penalized for being too good?

I have watched a lot of film this week. Whiteland is big and physical. Strength is definitely run game. Cathedral defense stops run first. May bend alittle but rarely breaks. Whiteland lulls you to sleep and then passes to TE. Irish will be ready for this. Offensively, irish skilled players are too fast to be covered by man defense. Huge advantage for Cathedral. I don't think Whiteland can come from behind. Irish 35-14

I think both teams try and run the ball. Curry should have a big game. Weakest part of Cathedral's line is C and G. Cathedral has excellent OTs and probably 2 of the best TEs in the state. I would imagine Cathedral goes double TEs most of the game. Solidifies the run and helps with max protection on pass.

CG obviously will run the ball. LN slowed them down in first half. Costly mistakes cost CG points. Steele will get loose for a long one. Cathedral gambles alot on defense. CG wore LN down. I doubt they will wear down the Irish.

Both teams have excellent kickers. Weather will be cold, but not a factor. Game will be within 7. Which team will make the big play or which team makes fewest mistakes? I am going:

Cathedral 24

Center Grove 17

24 minutes ago, Jon said:

I think cathedral will have to beet Center Grove through the air. Nobody has been able to run on Center Grove all year. So if Center Grove doesn't turn over the ball or have to many of those nasty holding penalties  I think they take care of business and win this game.

Opponent average run yardage per game  is 18 yards.

Year rushing  total  cg 2138 opponent 147

Those are crazy rushing numbers. Holding teams to under 100 per game is amazing, but 147 for season is unbelievable.

Having seen both teams play, I believe this is a very difficult matchup for Chatard. Cathedral's o line vs Chatard's D line is a huge advantage for the Irish. Cathedral will play a double TE formation to add to strength. Langdon should have a big day. Chatard expects a big day passing vs cathedral secondary. Expect lots of points. I like Cathedral 56-21.