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On 11/20/2023 at 3:55 PM, FastpacedO said:

The Purichia at Chatard is the younger brother of both Purichia's that played QB at Cardinal Ritter. I thought though one played at U of I and the other at Franklin for college. I will have to defer to @Cyoguru

 

You are correct Jake and Nick are Luke's older brothers. Jake St. Michael/Ritter/UIndy and Nick St. Michael/Ritter/Franklin. Luke is the first Purichia non QB in the family. Their father Vince is an Asst Coach at Chatard. 

6 hours ago, BSUKingsmen said:

I can provide a little insight to the St Joe and Mish Marian question. In short, yes, they have let some bad seeds in due to vouchers and more has been swept under the rug at these 2 schools and tolerated than before vouchers came into play. There is now a fear of losing voucher money in these schools, so the discipline and standards they used to have have now been reduced. I know several legacy catholic school families that have pulled their kids from St Joe and Marian and are now sending them to Penn, New Prairie, and Edwardsburg, Michigan.

Hmm sounds similar to a situation here in Indy.

4 hours ago, jets said:

 

Well - to answer @tango question as far as the difference - what I DID NOT see was a school with a large student population filled with free/reduced lunch #'s, students with IEP's, or a large EL population. 

Not saying a school can't be successful with those numbers, but just pointing out the differences and the challenges those can bring. 

And look - I'm not bashing P/P education or even their success. Good for them - but I just can't fathom how one can IGNORE those obvious factors and just point to "CYO" and a hard work ethic as reasons for success. 

CYO 

47 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure when Coach Doyle was running the Chatard Freshmen program prior to his becoming head coach that they didn't even run the varsity offense and defense.  My understanding was that they were serious and disciplined but really wanted to make it as fun as possible in order to retain kids in the sport. 

You are correct. Coach Doyle freshman offense  was more wide open vs the Coach L toss sweep.

19 hours ago, oldtimeqb said:

Thank you @Cyoguru.

I was joking, but also genuinely curious about the 3-4 league. 

I assume a smaller field? 4 linemen and three backs? 

Or is it 7v7 like a summer passing tournament? Given the Chatard and Roncalli pedigrees I wouldn’t think that would be the case.

CYO started the USA Football 7 on 7 model hoping to get more parents interested in football again, hoping to increase numbers. I admit I was not a fan at first. It has shown in a short time to be very successful so far with CYO numbers increasing. My favorite part is the weight limit is 100lbs to run the ball. The CYO 34 football rules are attached for you to check out. 

CYO 34 Rules and regulations.pdf

8 hours ago, Lysander said:

I’ll defer to Guru but I think it’s general number of players, ratio of 7/8, 5/6 and 3/4 players on those teams and perhaps some other factors.  It’s been a few years….

CYO uses a formula below based on numerous factors. They total up the points and put teams in classes based on the score. A team can request to move up to a larger division. I would like to see data from the teams previous seasons to assist in putting them in the right division. There is a CYO coaches meeting at the Cadet level to allow coaches to assist in making sure the teams are in the right division. Unfortunately, some coaches are not honest about their teams and remain in the lower divisions. Most do the right thing.

Criteria used for Pairing Teams into the A, AA and AAA Leagues A. Each player on a roster is worth 1 point. B. Each upperclassman on the roster is worth 2 points. For the 56 league, 6th graders and for the Cadet league, 8th graders. C. Each 2 striper on the roster is worth 3 points. D. Each 3 striper on the roster is worth 2 points. E. Each impact player on the roster is worth 1 point. An impact player is a player that is within 3 pounds of the maximum weight for a non-striper and a 2 striper. F. The size of the school is worth 0 to 10 points. (10 points for the biggest schools — above 500 students, 5 points for the mid-range schools — 350 to 500 students and 0 points for the smallest schools — under 350 students).

1 hour ago, SIR IRISH said:

Interestingly enough, the St. Pius 7th grade class which makes over 20 of the players on their team, had not lost(before yesterday) since 4th grade and lost just their 3rd CYO game yesterday.  That class is stacked and will be back next year!

St. Pius is definitely the early favorite for Cadet next year. They have no reason not to be in the largest division next year.

11 hours ago, Lysander said:

Shout out to @Cyoguru and the St Michael Crusaders for their 14-6 Cadet AAA victory over the St. Pius Panthers yesterday in a hard fought win.  Wistfully (to me), the PA system yesterday echoed names that have been heard on Indianapolis Catholic HS football fields both currently and for some decades.  It’s a bit of a time warp to attend these great CYO games. 

Two questions for the Guru, though.

First, just how many times have the Crusaders played in and or won the Cadet Championship in the last 20 years? Seems they are always playing this time of year.

Second, and most importantly, is this most recent Championship the swan song for the Guru?

St. Michael is the only CYO team to participate in the Cadet AAA division every year since CYO started this class system in 2005. Prior there where 4 divisions and only one champion. It's difficult to win a Cadet Big division city championship. Alot of things have to go your way.

St. Michael Cadet AAA Finals appearances

Champions 2023-2022-2016-2009-1977-1958-1957

Runner up 2018-2017-2007-2006-1968

Looks like this is it for me, but I am always around. 

Saturdays CYO Championship Results.  Lots of entertaining and close games today. Link to brackets CYO (orgsonline.com)

CYO 3rd, 34, and 4th grade football is 7 on 7 Tackle Football

3rd Grade AA Our Lady of Mount Carmel 37 St. Simon 28   3rd Grade AAA St. Barnabas 21 St. Jude 20

34 Grade AA Immaculate Heart of Mary 28 St. Louis de Montfort 13 34 Grade AAA Nativity 22 St. Maria Goretti 20

56 Grade A Our Lady of Mount Carmel 18 St. Malachy 13 56 Grade AA Immaculate Heart of Mary 16 St. Pius X 13

Sundays games will be streamed on Indianasrn.org if you want to check out some CYO Football 

1pm 56AAA Nativity vs St. Jude

2:15 Cadet AA (78) St. Louis de Montfort vs Our Lady of Grace

3:45 Cadet AAA (78) St. Michael vs St. Pius X 

2 minutes ago, Cyoguru said:

Would you disagree that bussing was a factor?

Apologize I am way behind in this thread.

On 11/9/2023 at 2:57 PM, BDGiant93 said:

At the risk of being corrected by Temptation, you are not correct.

Would you disagree that bussing was a factor?

The Indianapolis CYO Football Championships are being played this weekend at Chatard High School. The Sunday 56AAA and Cadet games will be streamed at Indiana SRN – Indiana's Largest Webcaster of High School Sports . The tournament schedule can be found at this link. CYO (orgsonline.com)

This is always a good weekend of football. The Cadet ( 7th and 8th grade) AAA Finals St. Michael 8-0 vs St. Pius X 8-0 and AA St. Louis de Montfort 8-0 vs Our Lady of Grace/SMG 6-2 should be entertaining games.

19 hours ago, Boiler Boog said:

I graduated from East Central in 2000. Still have some family members on the coaching staff and the team. So what still follow them. When I graduated from college I moved to Carmel. Started coaching CYO when my son was in 3rd grade and moved up every year with him through 8th grade last year. So I’ve seen pretty much all the Indy CYO teams a few times. Barnabas and St. Mike were the two dominant teams in our age. All the Barnabas kids go to Roncalli and apparently most of the St Mike kids went to Chatard this year. Barnabas also had a good class the year above my son along with St Roch being pretty good. So I’d expect Roncalli to have some pretty good classes and Chatard to be really strong. Trust me, when the current freshmen are seniors, Chatard will have a Mr. Football candidate at running back.

 

4 players from last year's St. Michael team went to Chatard. The rest went to Cardinal Ritter. 

Good Luck Coach. Enjoy 

The downfall at Ritter is self-inflicted. The previous head coach thought Ritter was winning championships because of him and not the players. The principal now President enabled him for years. The school took for granted that families would continue to send their kids to Ritter.  I could go and on. Ritter had a chance once Coach Hunt resigned to hire a former player and coach who might of been able to turn it around. It still would of been a challenge. The president of Ritter chose otherwise.  I feel for Coach Purcell as none of this is his doing. The Ritter administration has gotten just what it wanted. Ritter will not have a football team in the near future. 

It was nice to see Cathedral finally get the ball to Wooten. I hope they keep it up.

5 hours ago, DT said:

Is the Covenent program pulling kids away from Ritter?

No sir. that's not the issue. 

Indiana high school football: Cardinal Ritter hires coach (indystar.com)   

I was hoping they would go the way of IU basketballs hire and keep it in the family. The Cardinal Ritter President had other thoughts.

Nice story in The Star, but it does not tell you the whole story. Too bad the Ritter Admin did not make this move 4-6 years ago. The Ritter  football program is a mess. Numbers are way down and kids transferring out to other schools.  This is the first senior class since 1997 to not win a sectional championship. I fell bad for this senior class, they deserved better. The cupboard is bare and Coach Hunt left it that way. Side note: There are no St. Michael football players at Covenant and I do not see any going there in the future. 

I saw that Marian University Head Coach Mark Henninger is listed as one of the coaches. 

https://www.hawaiitikibowl.com/

They do now. Google probably has an old photo. 

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He was Easter's favorite WR on Team Indiana FBU team in middle school. They work well together.