Coach DeSpain

15 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

Even if those schools have another season before they are eligible, they need to be included in the alignments since they will be eligible for the second year of the cycle.

I get that.. The way I read that was you were saying they are eligible this year.  I wasn't sure if there was a special rule since a couple of those teams participated in 8 man before going to 11 man.

On 12/21/2023 at 4:08 PM, HoopsCoach said:

 

	3A	Enrollment
1	Guerin Catholic	800
2	Jay County	800
3	Delta	798
4	Western	791
5	Mississinewa	783
6	Gibson Southern	771
7	Edgewood	761
8	Madison	760
9	Corydon Central	754
10	West Lafayette	750
11	Norwell	745
12	Angola	741
13	Mishawaka Marian	735
14	Lawrenceburg	726
15	Scottsburg	726
16	West Noble	718
17	Vincennes Lincoln	711
18	Crawfordsville	710
19	Hamilton Heights	687
20	Batesville	670
21	Twin Lakes	663
22	Greensburg	662
23	Franklin County	650
24	Owen Valley	650
25	Rushville	645
26	South Dearborn	645
27	Griffith	637
28	Indian Creek	636
29	Heritage Hills	635
30	John Glenn	633
31	North Harrison	629
32	Fort Wayne Concordia	623
33	Evansville Memorial	617
34	Hammond Bishop Noll	617
35	Indianapolis Washington	617
36	Heritage	616
37	Calumet	611
38	Bellmont	608
39	Tri-West	606
40	Maconaquah	604
41	Princeton	600
42	Peru	588
43	Purdue Polytechnic Downtown	578
44	Southridge	576
45	Mount Vernon (Posey)	574
46	Speedway	571
47	Fairfield	570
48	River Forest	567
49	Garrett	556
50	Northwestern	554
51	Cascade	546
52	Tippecanoe Valley	543
53	Lakeland	540
54	Jimtown	538
55	Oak Hill	538
56	Fort Wayne Bishop Luers	532
57	Frankton	531
58	Evansville Mater Dei	520
59	Knox	520
60	West Vigo	518
61	Woodlan	518
62	Benton Central	513
63	North Montgomery	513
64	Western Boone	513

 

 

	2A	Enrollment
1	Centerville	512
2	Bluffton	507
3	Heritage Christian	507
4	Monrovia	503
5	Sullivan	503
6	Eastbrook	501
7	Eastern (Greentown)	499
8	Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter	498
9	Greencastle	495
10	Salem	494
11	Wabash	492
12	Blackford	490
13	Brown County	484
14	South Bend Clay	477
15	Manchester	475
16	Pike Central	474
17	Bremen	471
18	Brownstown Central	469
19	Alexandria	468
20	South Vermillion	468
21	Triton Central	468
22	Boone Grove	466
23	Lapel	466
24	Switzerland County	464
25	Andrean	455
26	Tipton	454
27	Southmont	453
28	Indianapolis Scecina	448
29	Rensselaer Central	447
30	North Posey	442
31	North Putnam	432
32	Northeastern	423
33	Whiting	422
34	Prairie Heights	421
35	Christel House Manual	420
36	Delphi	417
37	Wheeler	417
38	Elwood	410
39	Winchester	408
40	Adams Central	407
41	Tell City	403
42	Shenandoah	400
43	Paoli	396
44	Lake Station Edison	391
45	Union County	391
46	Eastern (Pekin)	389
47	Lewis Cass	389
48	Whitko	389
49	Linton-Stockton	387
50	Seeger	386
51	Central Noble	385
52	Clarksville	385
53	Eastside	384
54	Covenant Christian (Indpls.)	383
55	Crawford County	379
56	Churubusco	378
57	Park Tudor	378*
58	Eastern Hancock	377
59	Perry Central	377
60	Mitchell	212
61	Rochester	164
62	Lafayette Central Catholic	302
63	Indianapolis Lutheran	267

 

 

	1A	Enrollment
1	LaVille	373
2	Providence	371
3	Taylor	366
4	South Putnam	363
5	Winamac	360
6	South Adams	357
7	Parke Heritage	354
8	Forest Park	353
9	Hagerstown	352
10	South Spencer	352
11	Eastern Greene	351
12	North Knox	349
13	Madison-Grant	336
14	Sheridan	336
15	Indianapolis Irvington	328
16	Clinton Prairie	327
17	Carroll (Flora)	321
18	Riverton Parke	320
19	North Newton	319
20	South Central (Union Mills)	318
21	Knightstown	316
22	Milan	315
23	North Decatur	314
24	North Judson	308
25	Monroe Central	301
26	Northfield	296
27	Fountain Central	289
28	Anderson Prep Academy	288
29	Pioneer	286
30	Tecumseh	286
31	Cloverdale	283
32	Fremont	283
33	Covington	281
34	Bowman Academy	277
35	West Washington	277
36	Triton	274
37	North Daviess	273
38	Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian	270
39	Faith Christian	269
40	Clinton Central	268
41	Springs Valley	266
42	South Decatur	265
43	North White	264
44	North Miami	263
45	Southwood	263
46	North Central (Farmersburg)	257
47	Tri	256
48	Southern Wells	252
49	Wes-Del	248
50	Culver	246
51	Union City	244
52	Caston	241
53	South Newton	241
54	Cambridge City Lincoln	234
55	Tri Central	232
56	Edinburgh	227
57	Greenwood Christian	222
58	Tri-County	220
59	North Vermillion	218
60	West Central	209
61	Indianapolis Tindley	202
62	Frontier	180
63	Attica	160

 

On 12/21/2023 at 4:01 PM, HoopsCoach said:

The DOE has released enrollment data from the fall count day for the 23-24 school year.  Here are the enrollments for each school for grades 9-12.  I made a tentative split for each class just to give an idea where they could be.  Note that there always seems to be a few schools that have slightly different numbers when the IHSAA releases their enrollments for classification.  

Two schools in particular really stood out as having enrollments that were significantly lower than their 2022-23 enrollments - Rochester and Mitchell.  I think there may have been some kind of reporting error.  For now, I left them in the classroom they would have been in based upon previous enrollments, but I did list the enrollment that was listed by the DOE.

Schools with an * did not report their data to the DOE, so their enrollments are listed as the same as the number they gave the IHSAA in 2022.  I included Indianapolis Irvington, Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian, Greenwood Christian, and Lafayette Faith Christian since they have moved to 11 man football or plan to do so, and they are tournament eligible schools.  I also moved the schools who earned enough success factor points in the current cycle to be in a higher class.

	6A	Enrollment
1	Carmel	5200
2	Ben Davis	4567
3	Fishers	3664
4	North Central (Indpls.)	3616
5	Penn	3480
6	Avon	3476
7	Hamilton Southeastern	3442
8	Warren Central	3369
9	Franklin Central	3362
10	Brownsburg	3297
11	Noblesville	3208
12	Pike	3192
13	Elkhart	3166
14	Crown Point	2978
15	Lake Central	2961
16	Center Grove	2893
17	Lawrence North	2817
18	Westfield	2789
19	Carroll (Fort Wayne)	2569
20	Indianapolis Arsenal Tech	2500
21	Homestead	2408
22	Lawrence Central	2404
23	Southport	2368
24	Perry Meridian	2359
25	Zionsville	2309
26	Columbus North	2267
27	Portage	2170
28	Harrison (West Lafayette)	2169
29	Fort Wayne Northrop	2158
30	Jeffersonville	2141
31	Fort Wayne Snider	1915
32	Indianapolis Cathedral	1172

 

	5A	Enrollment
1	Valparaiso	2140
2	Warsaw	2108
3	Whiteland	2074
4	Decatur Central	2050
5	Merrillville	2050
6	Lafayette Jefferson	2034
7	Goshen	2006
8	South Bend Adams	1987
9	Chesterton	1980
10	Castle	1965
11	Hammond Central	1923
12	Floyd Central	1823
13	New Albany	1814
14	LaPorte	1812
15	McCutcheon	1786
16	Plainfield	1773
17	Concord	1730
18	Anderson	1722
19	Seymour	1719
20	Bloomington South	1656
21	Evansville North	1643
22	Terre Haute South	1609
23	Franklin Community	1590
24	Bloomington North	1558
25	Hammond Morton	1534
26	Michigan City	1520
27	Columbus East	1518
28	Munster	1514
29	Terre Haute North	1467
30	Kokomo	1465
31	Fort Wayne North Side	1460
32	East Central	1241

 

	4A	Enrollment
1	Fort Wayne South Side	1459
2	Mt Vernon (Fortville)	1455
3	Greenfield-Central	1430
4	Mishawaka	1422
5	Fort Wayne Wayne	1416
6	Mooresville	1398
7	Northridge	1393
8	Huntington North	1382
9	Pendleton Heights	1353
10	Muncie Central	1332
11	Evansville Reitz	1321
12	Richmond	1320
13	Martinsville	1315
14	Hobart	1298
15	Bedford-North Lawrence	1242
16	Logansport	1226
17	Greenwood	1211
18	Evansville Harrison	1209
19	New Palestine	1209
20	Indianapolis Cathedral	1172
21	Indianapolis Crispus Attucks	1170
22	Jennings County	1169
23	Columbia City	1162
24	Indianapolis Shortridge	1159
25	Shelbyville	1093
26	Jasper	1092
27	Indianapolis Roncalli	1082
28	New Haven	1068
29	Evansville Central	1065
30	Plymouth	1054
31	Marion	1045
32	DeKalb	1044
33	Lebanon	1033
34	East Chicago Central	1009
35	South Bend Riley	998
36	Gary West Side	995
37	East Noble	989
38	Kankakee Valley	989
39	Lowell	985
40	Highland	977
41	New Prairie	970
42	Silver Creek	943
43	Connersville	930
44	Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger	917
45	Frankfort	901
46	Leo	900
47	Wawasee	895
48	Northview	894
49	Beech Grove	892
50	Boonville	884
51	NorthWood	869
52	Charlestown	854
53	South Bend Saint Joseph	849
54	Culver Academies	832*
55	Brebeuf Jesuit	829
56	New Castle	824
57	Danville	820
58	Hanover Central	817
59	Yorktown	812
60	South Bend Washington	811
61	Washington	810
62	Evansville Bosse	809
63	Indianapolis Bishop Chatard	730

 

I may have missed something, but I thought  Indianapolis Irvington, Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian, Lafayette Faith Christian had one more full season until they become tournament eligible? Unless the 8 man season counted for them... I know GCA is eligible for the tournament this year. 

With being a small school (enrollment only 228), we can not force summer workouts even if we wanted too. I am realistic when it comes to football not being the #1 sport at our school and that kids (especially in our area) have to work to pay for certain things. I do get a few kids that try to participate in both football and basketball in June and I try to take it easy on them as I know they are doing both. The one positive for me is our basketball team is a run and gun type team and so the basketball guys are going to be conditioned for sure. 

1 hour ago, Julio said:

IHSAA was supposed to make all sports figure out a summer schedule, like football has the 12 days.  Some have done so, girls basketball and soccer, while most of them have not.  They keep saying we are leading the charge, but basketball will not change until the IHSAA makes their rules for them.  We try to work things out with our basketball coach, they get June and we get July.

We normally do this as well, but this year seems to be worse. It might be because we get all the moratorium all in July. We also start school July 28th so not much time between moratorium and start of school.

I was just curious how everyone deals with summer workouts. We are a small school and share a lot of the same athletes. I just was told the schedule for basketball in June and they only have 7 days off and that is including Sundays. 

On another note to me it is crazy that we only have 12 practices we can use between June and July, but basketball can workout basically everyday and play 20-30 games in June. 

Thoughts?

These kids at Edinburgh love football and the town is just amazing when it comes to support. Hopefully this year will be the huge turning point for our program. Lots of Talent on this team.  Thank you for the kind words. Small schools do matter. 

I am a second year head coach and I am trying to get our players more involved in our community.We do not have a great history at Edinburgh (most know this), but our fans have always be in the stand supporting us no matter what.  We did a cemetery clean up last year and I am wanting to get more ideas. My goal is to take 1 Saturday a month for June through October to do an community service project. I would like to know what are some of your guys ideas are.

Edinburgh has 30..

I looked up the board minutes and it said Rick Zimmerman. I believe he Jennings County's coach last year.