1984

3 hours ago, Cappy said:

What would be the benefit to the PAC adding the four remaining Big8 schools?

The PAC could remain unchanged now that GS isn’t going to the SIAC. 

Great question for the smallest PAC schools. 

AD''s making big time decisions for the long term success for each schools student/athletes across all sports is not an easy one. Snake oil type salesmen looking to make a splash may or may not be the best solution. The ultimate goal is to create the best atmosphere to generate student engagement in spirit and participation. Good luck to all.

On 3/27/2019 at 11:41 AM, Staxawax said:

Couldn't find the totals either, but here is how the Kiser/Bell breakdown went:

How Mr. Football is selected

Sixty high school coaches vote for Mr. Football and the Mr. Football position award winners at the annual Indiana Football Coaches Association all-state meeting. There is one vote for each sectional and two at-large votes in each class. That comes out to 60 total votes — 10 for each class. Here is a breakdown of how each class voted between Kiser and Bell:

Class A – Kiser 10, Bell 0

Class 2A – Kiser 9, Bell 1

Class 3A – Bell 4, Kiser 1

Class 4A – Kiser 3, Bell 3

Class 5A – Kiser 3, Bell 3

Class 6A – Bell 6, Kiser 4

 

And here is the story on how it will change next year:

The voting process for IndyStar Indiana Mr. Football will change starting next season.

The Indiana Football Coaches Association voted at its board meeting Friday to allow all members – coaches and assistant coaches – to have a Mr. Football vote. Previously, an IFCA ratings board of 60 -- 10 coaches in each of the six classes --voted for Mr. Football.

Jason Simmons, the Ben Davis coach and assistant executive director for the IFCA, said the ratings board will select the Mr. Football finalists, which will be the top two for each of the Mr. Football position awards. Coaches will then have two or three days to vote electronically for Mr. Football.

“We will leave the all-state meeting and send a ballot out that night or the next morning and then allow 48 or 72 hours to vote,” Simmons said.

The previous voting process had been in place for about 15 years. Simmons said the decision to allow all coaches to vote is to make the process as transparent as possible

“There is probably no perfect system, but I feel like we have been as progressive as any coaches association in the state,” Simmons said. “If there is a need for a change, we are going to attack it and adjust what we do. We felt like there was a need to change the voting system for Mr. Football.”

The process became a topic of discussion in December when Pioneer’s Jack Kiser, a two-time state champion and Notre Dame recruit, was voted Mr. Football over Warren Central’s David Bell. Kiser had 30 votes to outdistance runner-up Bell of Warren Central’s 17 votes. Kiser was voted Mr. Football on 19 of the 20 ballots from Class A and 2A coaches.

 

If a 1A or 2A player wins next year they can always add managers, trainers, Cheer Coach and Cheerleaders to potential voters. And don't forget about adding parents, siblings (half or step), and possibly grandparents (must be alive to qualify). 🤔😂

On 3/6/2019 at 8:46 AM, Bobref said:

“A back is any A player who has no part of his body breaking the plane of an imaginary line drawn ­parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the nearest teammate who is legally on the line, except for the player under the snapper, who is also considered a back.”

 

2017 this was a "legal" 2 pt attempt formation at the "Snake Pit" for the home team. 😂

Also comes with 17 penalties on the visiting team. 😂

On 2/19/2019 at 3:17 PM, jfries said:

Cole Alexander from Lapel- Strong arm and mobile. 40+ combined TDs as a junior. 

Peyton Starks from Shenandoah- Only had 1800 yards passing 34 combined TDs because he plays in a predominately run oriented offense but he has a very strong arm.  

Was highly impressed with Lapels Alexander. Duel threat, good size and strength, very competitive. Good football player.

2 hours ago, Titan32 said:

Lots of thumbs up to this!  My guess is that weeks 1 and 2 will be open as part of the proposal.  That said, there has been all this talk on what the PAC schools think about this deal etc., how do the Big8 schools feel?  I don’t mean the fans....are there any Admins or coaches in the Big 8 opposed to the proposal?

Above my pay grade to answer in depth.

I do have a few insights though. All Big 8 members are aware that the thought of scheduling 4 non-conference games for football could be a logistical nightmare.

I believe the Big8 would rather try and rectify the situation as a group rather than try to go it alone and disband.

The initiative was brought to the table in a way to show benefits to all involved. 

Tecumseh I feel is the one being drug along with the least to gain. They being the smallest by 25% or so of the next smallest school. They have found a workable schedule that's best for their 1A program. Not sure why they would want to change.

Just my 2 cents, if or when a Big8/PAC merger happens. These teams would be foolish not to open up weeks 1&2 for non-conference games. 

 Top to bottom the SIAC offers potential opponents that offer either great traditions or dynamic team speed. Just show up at the Evansville track sectional if you need confirmation.

Playing Bosse the last few years in the sectional, it has taken us a half of football to adjust. Just can't simulate that in practice.

Working together we can strive to elevate Southwestern Indiana football as a whole, or continue to let smaller programs continue to get beat down and eventually fold programs because of low participation numbers.

Let's be open to the fact, when all schools have some type of level of success, it's good for everyone. No one wants to be the 0-10 or 1-9 team. Let's open the doors for those looking for winnable games and those looking to test their limits.

Is a dropkick Kickoff allowed in Indiana HS football? If yes, can it be fair caught considering it has already touched the ground?