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39 minutes ago, Bonecrusher said:
I'm definitely not condoning profane vm's to players or the other stuff mentioned, but I would think these kinds of things are outliers. If you have a coach with self control/anger issues, making them sit through some training won't accomplish much, seeing how most of these things happen in the heat of the moment into the season. Maybe someone that's not smart enough to know where to draw the line would benefit, but then they probably shouldn't be working with impressionable kids anyway. Let's all sing "Kumbaya" together.
Couldn't agree more. It's another CYA policy for the administrators, allows them to say the coach or coaches involved were "trained" not to do this. It makes sense for them but probably will do little to prevent these situations in the future.
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18 minutes ago, GoodKn19ht said:
I could be wrong on this, but the second list of enrollment had Yorktown as the largest 3A school, but i don't see them listed on any of these sectional lists, did you use the first one or the second?
The list I put out was with teams the teams listed on John Harrell site. There are a few teams who may end up declaring to play in the tournament which would change a lot. Everything right now is just projections.
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18 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Word on the street up here in DA REGION is that Noll is playing Varsity schedule this upcoming year. I would suspect that means they play in tournament (notice how I didn't say Playoff 😎)
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15 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:
There will be 34 teams in 5A as long as Hammond Noll and Wood Memorial express their intention to play. I don’t think Trinity Lutheran is going to play, but if they did, then Greenfield-Central would move up to 5A giving that class 35 teams.
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S.B. Adams
LaPorte
Michigan City
Munster
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Goshen
Concord
Elkhart Central
Elkhart Memorial
Mishawaka
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F.W. Northrop
F.W. Snider
F.W. North
F.W. Bishop Dwenger
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Harrison (W.L.)
McCutcheon
Kokomo
Huntington North
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Whiteland
Anderson
Franklin Community
New Palestine
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Decatur Central
Bloomington South
Bloomington North
Plainfield
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Jeffersonville
New Albany
Floyd Central
Seymour
Bedford-North Lawrence
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Castle
Terre Haute North
Terre Haute South
Evansville NorthWhat's the deadline to express their intentions. Would think before the official classes are posted so it would have to be pretty quick right?
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12 minutes ago, LawrenceGreene said:
Isn't East Central bumped to 5a?
1 point short. State in '16, Sectional in '17.
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4 minutes ago, NLCTigerFan07 said:
I would be extremely surprised if Lafayette Jeff and Zionsville are paired together. That would mean Zionsville goes to the north of 6A. Which of these teams then would you put in the south because someone would have to go:
Carmel, Westfield, Noblesville, Fishers, HSE.
There isn't a CHANCE that the IHSAA puts Carmel in the south. And if Carmel isn't going south, it would make much sense for Westfield to go south. The IHSAA also won't split up Fishers and HSE (who, if in the north, I see being paired with the 2 Fort Wayne teams). That leaves Noblesville as the final team. So you're going to but Noblesville in the south? No way that is happening.
Zionsville will 100% be placed in 6A South.
Pike and Zionsville are too close together to put them apart logically. Be like HSE and Fishers being split.
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If so then the Bosse guys can breath again.
6A 5A 4A # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment 1 Carmel 5286 1 Jeffersonville 2035 1 Bedford NL 1471 2 Ben Davis 4499 2 FW Northrop 2032 2 Huntington North 1459 3 Warren Central 3821 3 Harrison WL 1979 3 Greenfield Central 1453 4 North Central 3727 4 Castle 1965 4 Martinsville 1435 5 Fishers 3509 5 Goshen 1923 5 Northridge 1397 6 Penn 3338 6 Whiteland 1916 6 Pendleton Heights 1383 7 Lake Central 3316 7 SB Adams 1913 7 Ev Reitz 1378 8 Pike 3295 8 FW Snider 1860 8 Mooresville 1372 9 HSE 3273 9 Decatur Central 1845 9 FW Wayne 1369 10 Avon 3095 10 New Albany 1833 10 Hammond Morton 1358 11 Noblesville 3001 11 LaPorte 1819 11 FW South 1358 12 Crown Point 2855 12 Floyd Central 1815 12 Muncie Central 1341 13 Brownsburg 2810 13 Anderson 1810 13 Mt Vernon 1322 14 Franklin Central 2804 14 McCutcheon 1782 14 Hobart 1282 15 Tech 2608 15 TH North 1769 15 Richmond 1278 16 Lawrence North 2596 16 Bloomington South 1747 16 Ev Harrison 1250 17 Center Grove 2521 17 TH South 1733 17 Greenwood 1246 18 Perry Meridian 2445 18 Bloomington North 1709 18 East Central 1225 19 Portage 2436 19 Plainfield 1696 19 Logansport 1212 20 Homestead 2424 20 Ev North 1684 20 Jennings County 1203 21 FW Carroll 2412 21 Concord 1657 21 Roncalli 1188 22 Westfield 2334 22 Kokomo 1630 22 East Noble 1180 23 Lawrence Central 2290 23 Elkhart Central 1618 23 Ev Central 1165 24 Southport 2254 24 Michigan City 1611 24 Shelbyville 1164 25 Merrillville 2187 25 Franklin 1590 25 SB Riley 1148 26 Warsaw 2103 26 Elkhart Memorial 1567 26 East Chicago Central 1140 27 Lafayette Jeff 2063 27 FW North 1550 27 Highland 1122 28 Columbus North 2063 28 Seymour 1522 28 DeKalb 1119 29 Chesterton 2063 29 Munster 1521 29 Lowell 1118 30 Zionsville 2055 30 Mishawaka 1477 30 Jasper 1105 31 Valparaiso 2054 31 New Palestine 1175 31 Columbia City 1102 32 Columbus East 1475 32 FW Dwenger 1015 32 Cathedral 1099 33 Plymouth 1097 34 Marion 1082 35 Attucks 1058 36 Gary West 1043 37 New Haven 1043 38 Kankakee Valley 1041 39 Connersville 1028 40 Shortridge 1027 41 Northview 1016 42 SB Clay 988 43 Jay County 987 44 Lebanon 973 45 New Castle 970 46 Leo 965 47 New Prairie 961 48 Wawasee 939 49 Beech Grove 935 50 Boonville 914 51 Frankfort 904 52 NorthWood 901 53 Angola 885 54 Hammond Gavit 878 55 Silver Creek 875 56 Madison 867 57 SB St. Joseph's 857 58 Delta 850 59 Western 849 60 Culver Academy 845 61 South Dearborn 826 62 Griffith 823 63 Mississinewa 812 64 Ev Memorial 609
3A 2A 1A # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment 1 Yorktown 803 1 South Vermillion 544 1 Taylor 379 2 Danville 801 2 FW Luers 542 2 Winamac 376 3 Ev Bosse 800 3 Monrovia 536 3 Lake Station 373 4 Norwell 800 4 Wheeler 535 4 Adams Central 371 5 Brebeuf Jesuit 791 5 Fairfield 532 5 Eastern Greene 370 6 Hammond 780 6 Woodlan 525 6 South Putnam 370 7 SB Washington 778 7 Speedway 522 7 Monroe Central 368 8 West Lafayette 775 8 Eastern (Greentown) 522 8 Madison-Grant 367 9 Twin Lakes 769 9 Boone Grove 520 9 Covenant Christian 365 10 Scottsburg 768 10 Western Boone 520 10 Clinton Prairie 363 11 Franklin County 764 11 Manchester 513 11 Perry Central 363 12 Hammond Clark 763 12 Blackford 511 12 Cloverdale 359 13 Guerin Catholic 761 13 Bremen 509 13 South Adams 352 14 Edgewood 756 14 Frankton 507 14 Churubusco 350 15 Owen Valley 752 15 Southmont 507 15 Knightstown 349 16 Washington 746 16 Tipton 505 16 Park Tudor 343 17 FW Concordia 740 17 Eastbrook 500 17 Gary Roosevelt 343 18 Hamilton Heights 739 18 Rensselaer Central 498 18 Hagerstown 340 19 Vincennes 735 19 Ev Mater Dei 497 19 North Decatur 340 20 Greensburg 734 20 Rochester 497 20 Parke Heritage 336 21 Indy Washington 721 21 Centerville 491 21 North Judson 331 22 Chatard 714 22 Bluffton 478 22 Fountain Central 328 23 Hanover Central 709 23 Whiting 477 23 South Decatur 328 24 Gibson Southern 703 24 Lapel 473 24 Carroll Flora 324 25 Batesville 700 25 Triton Central 466 25 South Central 322 26 Manual 695 26 Heritage Christian 462 26 Sheridan 310 27 Rushville 695 27 Mitchell 462 27 Riverton Parke 309 28 Crawfordsville 394 28 Alexandria 461 28 Tecumseh 302 29 Bellmont 692 29 Wabash 456 29 Cambridge City Lincoln 299 30 Corydon Central 691 30 Paoli 455 30 Fremont 298 31 Charlestown 691 31 Shenandoah 451 31 North Daviess 296 32 North Harrison 685 32 North Posey 450 32 Lafayette Central Catholic 287 33 Lawrenceburg 678 33 Crawford County 450 33 Covington 280 34 West Noble 675 34 Eastern Pekin 448 34 North Miami 279 35 Mishawaka Marian 645 35 Whitko 438 35 Southwood 278 36 Peru 641 36 Lewis Cass 438 36 Wes-Del 277 37 Maconaquah 636 37 Clarksville 436 37 Clinton Central 277 38 Calumet 629 38 Cascade 431 38 Northfield 275 39 Brown County 619 39 Delphi 431 39 West Washington 273 40 Princeton 617 40 Tell City 430 40 Triton 270 41 Indian Creek 613 41 North Putnam 428 41 Lighthouse East 269 42 Mt Vernon 603 42 Scecina 427 42 Union City 269 43 Heritage Hills 601 43 Central Noble 426 43 North Central 269 44 Northwestern 595 44 Union County 422 44 West Central 262 45 Jimtown 595 45 Winchester 422 45 Springs Valley 257 46 John Glenn 594 46 South Spencer 421 46 Southern Wells 256 47 Heritage 593 47 Elwood 416 47 Anderson Prep Academy 248 48 Garrett 591 48 Andrean 414 48 North White 245 49 West Vigo 590 49 Prairie Heights 412 49 Tri 241 50 Tri-West 588 50 Switzerland County 406 50 North Vermillion 241 51 Lakeland 572 51 Eastside 405 51 Edinburgh 241 52 Knox 571 52 Eastern Hancock 394 52 Culver Community 239 53 North Montgomery 570 53 North Knox 394 53 Tri-Central 237 54 Salem 567 54 North Newton 393 54 Tindley 232 55 Ritter 566 55 Linton-Stockton 391 55 Lutheran 225 56 Pike Central 563 56 Bowman Academy 391 56 South Newton 225 57 Brownstown Central 562 57 Forest Park 387 57 Oldenburg 219 58 Benton Central 559 58 LaVille 386 58 Frontier 215 59 River Forest 550 59 Howe 385 59 Caston 211 60 Greencastle 549 60 Providence 385 60 Tri-County 210 61 Oak Hill 548 61 Northeastern 383 61 Attica 199 62 Sullivan 547 62 Seeger 380 62 Traders Point Christian 128 63 Tippecanoe Valley 544 63 Milan 380 63 Rock Creek Academy 128 64 Southridge 520 64 Pioneer 288 64 Indiana Deaf 121 -
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23 minutes ago, Punttheball said:
Missing Eastern Howard and Boone Grove. I think there is one more.
Got both Boone Grove & Eastern (Greentown). Actually added in a non football school. This time I ended up with exactly 320 playoff eligible teams for the next two years. Am I correct on that?
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5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:
Coach Jackson: I believe the formula used is
top 32 goes to 6a
Then work back 1a -4a: 64 per class:
left overs go into 5a
If you do that, what does the list look like? 1a will have to have 64 teams in it. Same with 2a, 3a, 4a
I'm missing some schools then because that's all I was left with. Told you there'd be some errors. I'll check, let me know if you see who I'm missing.
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So this is what I have for classes based on the numbers. I almost guarantee there are multiple errors so call it out if you see it.
6A 5A 4A 3A 2A 1A # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment # School Enrollment 1 Carmel 5286 1 Jeffersonville 2035 1 Greenfield Central 1453 1 Ev Bosse 800 1 Monrovia 536 1 Eastern Greene 370 2 Ben Davis 4499 2 FW Northrop 2032 2 Martinsville 1435 2 Norwell 800 2 Wheeler 535 2 South Putnam 370 3 Warren Central 3821 3 Harrison WL 1979 3 Northridge 1397 3 Brebeuf Jesuit 791 3 Fairfield 532 3 Monroe Central 368 4 North Central 3727 4 Castle 1965 4 Pendleton Heights 1383 4 Hammond 780 4 Woodlan 525 4 Madison-Grant 367 5 Fishers 3509 5 Goshen 1923 5 Ev Reitz 1378 5 SB Washington 778 5 Speedway 522 5 Covenant Christian 365 6 Penn 3338 6 Whiteland 1916 6 Mooresville 1372 6 West Lafayette 775 6 Western Boone 520 6 Clinton Prairie 363 7 Lake Central 3316 7 SB Adams 1913 7 FW Wayne 1369 7 Twin Lakes 769 7 Manchester 513 7 Perry Central 363 8 Pike 3295 8 FW Snider 1860 8 Hammond Morton 1358 8 Scottsburg 768 8 Blackford 511 8 South Knox 361 9 HSE 3273 9 Decatur Central 1845 9 FW South 1358 9 Franklin County 764 9 Bremen 509 9 Cloverdale 359 10 Avon 3095 10 New Albany 1833 10 Muncie Central 1341 10 Hammond Clark 763 10 Frankton 507 10 South Adams 352 11 Noblesville 3001 11 LaPorte 1819 11 Mt Vernon 1322 11 Guerin Catholic 761 11 Southmont 507 11 Churubusco 350 12 Crown Point 2855 12 Floyd Central 1815 12 Hobart 1282 12 Edgewood 756 12 Tipton 505 12 Knightstown 349 13 Brownsburg 2810 13 Anderson 1810 13 Richmond 1278 13 Owen Valley 752 13 Eastbrook 500 13 Park Tudor 343 14 Franklin Central 2804 14 McCutcheon 1782 14 Ev Harrison 1250 14 Washington 746 14 Rensselaer Central 498 14 Gary Roosevelt 343 15 Arsenal Tech 2608 15 TH North 1769 15 Greenwood 1246 15 FW Concordia 740 15 Ev Mater Dei 497 15 Hagerstown 340 16 Lawrence North 2596 16 Bloomington South 1747 16 East Central 1225 16 Hamilton Heights 739 16 Rochester 497 16 North Decatur 340 17 Center Grove 2521 17 TH South 1733 17 Logansport 1212 17 Vincennes 735 17 Centerville 491 17 Parke Heritage 336 18 Perry Meridian 2445 18 Bloomington North 1709 18 Jennings County 1203 18 Greensburg 734 18 Bluffton 478 18 North Judson 331 19 Portage 2436 19 Plainfield 1696 19 Roncalli 1188 19 Indy Washington 721 19 Whiting 477 19 Fountain Central 328 20 Homestead 2424 20 Ev North 1684 20 East Noble 1180 20 Chatard 714 20 Lapel 473 20 South Decatur 328 21 FW Carroll 2412 21 Concord 1657 21 Ev Central 1165 21 Hanover Central 709 21 Triton Central 466 21 Carroll Flora 324 22 Westfield 2334 22 Kokomo 1630 22 Shelbyville 1164 22 Gibson Southern 703 22 Heritage Christian 462 22 South Central 322 23 Lawrence Central 2290 23 Elkhart Central 1618 23 SB Riley 1148 23 Batesville 700 23 Mitchell 462 23 Sheridan 310 24 Southport 2254 24 Michigan City 1611 24 East Chicago Central 1140 24 Manual 695 24 Alexandria 461 24 Riverton Parke 309 25 Merrillville 2187 25 Franklin 1590 25 Highland 1122 25 Rushville 695 25 Wabash 456 25 Tecumseh 302 26 Warsaw 2103 26 Elkhart Memorial 1567 26 DeKalb 1119 26 Crawfordsville 394 26 Paoli 455 26 Cambridge City Lincoln 299 27 Lafayette Jeff 2063 27 FW North 1550 27 Lowell 1118 27 Bellmont 692 27 Shenandoah 451 27 Fremont 298 28 Columbus North 2063 28 Seymour 1522 28 Jasper 1105 28 Corydon Central 691 28 North Posey 450 28 North Daviess 296 29 Chesterton 2063 29 Munster 1521 29 Columbia City 1102 29 Charlestown 691 29 Crawford County 450 29 Lafayette Central Catholic 287 30 Zionsville 2055 30 Mishawaka 1477 30 Cathedral 1099 30 North Harrison 685 30 Eastern Pekin 448 30 Covington 280 31 Valparaiso 2054 31 Bedford NL 1471 31 Plymouth 1097 31 Lawrenceburg 678 31 Whitko 438 31 North Miami 279 32 Columbus East 1475 32 Huntington North 1459 32 Marion 1082 32 West Noble 675 32 Cass 438 32 Southwood 278 33 New Palestine 1175 33 Attucks 1058 33 Mishawaka Marian 645 33 Clarksville 436 33 Wes-Del 277 34 FW Dwenger 1015 34 Gary West 1043 34 Peru 641 34 Cascade 431 34 Clinton Central 277 35 New Haven 1043 35 Maconaquah 636 35 Delphi 431 35 Northfield 275 36 Kankakee Valley 1041 36 Calumet 629 36 Tell City 430 36 West Washington 273 37 Connersville 1028 37 Brown County 619 37 North Putnam 428 37 Triton 270 38 Shortridge 1027 38 Princeton 617 38 Scecina 427 38 Lighthouse East 269 39 Northview 1016 39 Indian Creek 613 39 Central Noble 426 39 Union City 269 40 SB Clay 988 40 Mt Vernon 603 40 Union County 422 40 North Central 269 41 Jay County 987 41 Heritage Hills 601 41 Winchester 422 41 West Central 262 42 Lebanon 973 42 Northwestern 595 42 South Spencer 421 42 Springs Valley 257 43 New Castle 970 43 Jimtown 595 43 Elwood 416 43 Southern Wells 256 44 Leo 965 44 Glenn 594 44 Andrean 414 44 Anderson Prep Academy 248 45 New Prairie 961 45 Heritage 593 45 Prairie Heights 412 45 North White 245 46 Wawasee 939 46 Gerrett 591 46 Switzerland County 406 46 Tri 241 47 Beech Grove 935 47 West Vigo 590 47 Eastside 405 47 North Vermillion 241 48 Boonville 914 48 Tri-West 588 48 Eastern Hancock 394 48 Edinburgh 241 49 Frankfort 904 49 Lakeland 572 49 North Knox 394 49 Culver Community 239 50 NorthWood 901 50 Knox 571 50 North Newton 393 50 Tri-Central 237 51 Angola 885 51 North Montgomery 570 51 Linton-Stockton 391 51 Tindley 232 52 Hammond Gavit 878 52 Salem 567 52 Bowman Academy 391 52 Lutheran 225 53 Silver Creek 875 53 Ritter 566 53 Forest Park 387 53 South Newton 225 54 Madison 867 54 Pike Central 563 54 LaVille 386 54 Oldenburg 219 55 SB St. Joseph's 857 55 Brownstown Central 562 55 Howe 385 55 Frontier 215 56 Delta 850 56 Benton Central 559 56 Providence 385 56 Caston 211 57 Western 849 57 River Forest 550 57 Northeastern 383 57 Tri-County 210 58 Culver 845 58 Greencastle 549 58 Seeger 380 58 Attica 199 59 South Dearborn 826 59 Oak Hill 548 59 Milan 380 59 Traders Point Christian 128 60 Griffith 823 60 Sullivan 547 60 Taylor 379 60 Rock Creek Academy 128 61 Mississinewa 812 61 Tippecanoe Valley 544 61 Winamac 376 61 Indiana Deaf 121 62 Yorktown 803 62 South Vermillion 544 62 Lake Station 373 62 63 Danville 801 63 FW Luers 542 63 Adams Central 371 63 64 Ev Memorial 609 64 Southridge 520 64 Pioneer 288 64
Mercy Rule
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Being a coach I agree with the sentiment above. Coaches preach to players "never give up, fight till the end". Going to a running clock no matter how out of hand the game is makes you feel like a hypocrite. Having been a coach on both sides of a blowout I think it's a respectable way to get games over with and having a rule to enforce it would take it out of the coach's hands. Though I think there would need to be some discussion on how it's implemented.
Ohio's rule is that at any point during the game if a team gets up 30+ they go with a running clock. I saw a game where this hurt a teams chance to come back. Running clock went into effect near the beginning of the 3rd and basically ran off the entire quarter on two consecutive drives. The losing team closed the gap stopping the clock, started to come back and literally ran out of time. Would like to think if that time hadn't ran off would they have had an opportunity to tie or win.
I few years ago when Bobby Cox was pushing this I heard someone suggest no running clock in the first half. Running clock would only begin when leading by 42+ in the 3rd and 35+ in the 4th and would end if the score was brought back within those ranges which I think makes more sense.