tango

And on almancasports.com it shows that MD and PCHS played 8 times from 1970-77, with MD taking all 8 contests. I always forget that Rudy has it all right there at the click of a button...

2 hours ago, Titan32 said:

87, 88.  Yours truly was the GS fullback or tailback.  We had them in 88 but a last second score did us in.

 Did GS drop to 2A in late 1980's? Memorial played GS in 1985 as a 3A school. 

25 minutes ago, Lysander said:

….and have been hoping for it for almost 20 years.  I absolutely can’t imagine them not wanting IHSAA recognition.  I really find it doubtful that those involved in Indiana HS Lacrosse “took a pass” on IHSAA recognition.

There are many reasons but one I’m aware of is that it likely changes the whole dynamic for the sport at a lot of public schools where they are (or were) paying small fortunes for field use…or being prohibited entirely from usage.  Let alone opening up opportunities at some schools to earn a letter.

it also likely changes the whole funding situation as well v. the normally high parental financial cost associated with a sport like lacrosse.

In many of those cases, coaches are likely subject directly to the whims of the parents who directly fund via the club.  If it’s an IHSAA sport, I’m assuming the coach is now solely subject to the school administration.

I have definitely seen our program moving in this direction. It looks much less like a travel team than it did 10 years ago. I guess one drawback of being an IHSAA sport is no Sunday participation. Do some places have LAX (about all I know of the sport 🙂) games on Sunday? 

1 hour ago, jets said:

I'm willing to bet most people, outside of our circle -(without looking it up) -given the following list: MD, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, and Southridge - would be incorrect. 

Probably so. MD and GS both caught some breaks having "success" across two different classification cycles to avoid being bumped up. 

Another interesting tidbit. I know Mem & SR have never played before (at least at varsity level). Are there any other schools that have never played? The ones I think might be a possibility are MD - GS and/or MD - PCHS.    

1 hour ago, Lysander said:

That’s inconsistent to everything I have heard in the past from the lacrosse community going back almost 20 years.  Could you elaborate?

Different than what I've heard our coaches say too. They want to be fully recognized by the IHSAA.  

2 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said:

I think that assumes seeding sectionals…but from the things I’ve read over the last few years (only a handful) coaches seem to be pushing more for a fully seeded tournament/or at least semi state.

coaches want home field advantage.  Maybe I’m off base here but I think if we see seeding we are looking at doing away with sectional draws completely.  North or south and how you did will be all that matters. 

I bet MV and PCHS won't vote for seeding until this Sectional changes...

1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said:

I can’t imagine a fully seeded semi state or regional as long as there is an all-in tournament. (Which isn’t going away.) 

Imagine last year for example. Hey, Princeton, you were 1-8. So for your sectional game you will be on the road against Batesville (or Lawrenceburg). 

 

 

I think the best we could ever hope for is seeding the top 2 teams in each Sectional, put them on opposite sides, and blind draw the rest. That really makes me no difference either way.

5 hours ago, jets said:

Fun trivia fact for you- outside of Memorial- who is the only other team in this sectional field to be moved up due to SF, and gained enough points to stay up the next classification go around?? 

That's easy..

As much as I would hate to have to play the Raiders on the road, I have heard a lot about a pork chop at the c-stand for many years, so there's always a bright side I guess...

6 hours ago, DumfriesYMCA said:

however…let’s hope that by the next roll around that we have seeding lol.  All these teams are bound to face each other in the playoffs and there is no getting  around that.  Would just be better if it was later on for the big games.  Like GS vs HH last year as a semi state game.  Insert any 2 of these teams on their good years and we all want them to be for a championship game. 

With a field this deep (potentially), this might be one of the few Sectionals where not having seeding probably isn't a big deal, unless of course MV draws PCHS. Otherwise I expect all 2d games to be very competitive...

4 hours ago, Football Fanatic said:

Early to say but here is how I would power rank that sectional at this point:

I don't know enough to rank any teams at this point, but I have to think HH is the favorite as the defending 3A South rep returning some tremendous players. GS and SR are always tough. Memorial should be solid if the QB is back. MD will be improved. Don't know what VL has coming back, but they lose a very good QB. MV and PCHS can't love this at all.

If I understand the SF points correctly, if either HH gets back to LOS or EM wins a Regional, it would mean a bump up to 4A in 2025. And, as Titan32 previously said, GS could be 4A in the next reclassification. This could be a 1 or 2 year deal at most, so we fans better enjoy what will be a tough, tough sectional and some great HS atmospheres. I believe its the first time HH, GS, SR, MD and Memorial have all been in the same sectional. 

10 minutes ago, HoopsCoach said:

Brewer has proposed this rule before, and continues to propose it because Yorktown volleyball can’t win state in 4A.  The entire reason for this is so their volleyball team can get moved back to 3A and win state again.  Fortunately, it doesn’t look like the proposal is getting much support.  Similar results to the polling occurred at other spring principals meetings.

In my opinion, the point total to stay up was appropriate at 2 points per cycle.  If your team is good enough to win 2 sectionals or 1 regional in a class above your enrollment, you are good enough to stay up.  The change that was made for this year was not necessary in my opinion.  It was proposed by Jeff Doyle from Barr-Reeve, who is an executive committee member, and was again motivated by a successful volleyball program.  The position on the executive committee should be a good indication of how it got approved.

Interesting back stories. Thanks. Those damn cheatin' publics...  LOL

You have any insight on the NIL and transfer topics that were evidently discussed?

Can't imagine this would ever pass. I was pretty surprised it went from 3 to 2 to stay up before this school year.

Off topic, but I heard at the meeting down here they took straw poll votes on a number of topics to gauge the pulse - NIL, 1 time transfer with full eligibility, unlimited transfers with full eligibility, etc.

14 hours ago, Just a dad said:

He actually has 3 rings. 2 sport star. They are shiny. Daughter will probably end up with 3 as well. Both will get to play college sports on someone else's dime. $500k worth of free college education for my kids for just a few years of high value, low cost HS education.  I’m like the Warren Buffet of choosing High Schools. 

I’m done with this subject. You clowns bore me. 

I agree. Catholic school tuition is high value compared to the cost. What other sports do your kids play? I wasn't aware BC had won state recently in anything but football. 

3 hours ago, TigerFan20 said:

Still have yet to a Skyline Chili, any good? 

You'll either love it or hate it. No in between..

11 minutes ago, kylesokeland said:

A waste of a good hot dog *immediately logs off*

LOL. You ever seen a Sky Line dog without being smothered in chili? I don't think I could eat one plain..

6 hours ago, TigerFan20 said:

Northern Illinois, Castle’s Leach just committed to Toledo too

That's a huge upgrade. No Skyline Chili in Dekalb, IL....

On 4/22/2024 at 3:56 PM, TigerFan20 said:

Recruiting news:

Castle’s Patterson has switched his commitment to Cincinnati! Going to join the Bearcats in the Big 12.

Where had he previously committed?

On 4/19/2024 at 11:27 AM, Titan32 said:

This must have been bingo night.

LOL. It was. Branson Combs hit about 5 of them... 

We realize its hard to compete with the Jewell's 4 row temporary movable bleachers and lawn chairs circling the turf. Enlow is a close second I guess... 

Bobref's description is certainly correct - the members are the schools (principals), who elect the Board / Exec. Committee, which then hires the administrative staff - but the difference is the IHSAA is a quasi-governmental entity and the Commissioner pretty much controls the executive, legislative and judicial decision-making. 

jets - the Board / Executive Committee is made up of 19 members. The state is divided in to 3 geographic districts, with each district having reps from 4 enrollment classes (1A - 4A), plus 3 reps for the North & South regions (for female, minority & urban "classes") and 1 rep from p/p schools. The reps for District III (which includes our neck of the woods) are: Jeff Doyle (Barr-Reeve), Tim Grove (N. Knox), Larry Cochren (Washington) and Tom Black (East Central). Joe Hermann of Mater Dei is the p/p rep, but is retiring at the end of the school year so there will be a new person elected.  

28 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

Well... they would need to win another semistate. Then you will be down to 6 3A teams in SW Indiana.

Washington is right on the 3A / 4A line, so my guess is they might be in the mix for moving back down if a couple of 3A move up. 

30 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

Will even more interesting next cycle when GS moves to 4A....who will they pull in then?

Assuming no other movement, probably nobody - just leave S32 as a 7 team sectional.

If HH makes another run this year, wouldn't they get bumped up to 4A in 2025?   

3 hours ago, TransplantedPanther said:

Just remember that a few years ago, Princeton was in sectional 30 with Brown County, Edgewood, and Sullivan, while Gibson Southern was in 32 with Corydon Central, North Harrison, and Salem. 
 

I’m pretty sure that the IHSAA doesn’t worry too much about travel. 

I remember. But in the last 2 classifications, there has been a lot of movement of several former 3A schools to 2A (Pike Central, Sullivan, Brownstown, Salem, Brown Co.) and Washington moving to 4A in the latest one leaves a very distinct group of 8 3A schools within the pocket of SW IN. That said, I'm not saying a different group couldn't be decided, but it would be almost idiotic to split that group up. And yes, I realize idiotic is certainly not out of the realm for the brain trust on North Meridian Street.

As for Sectional 24, Washington replaces Memorial, but I wonder if BNL will get moved out? That seemed like an odd addition last year.  

On 4/4/2024 at 12:32 PM, jets said:

Also, I will add that the IHSAA has shown before that they will consider "competitive balance" and not just geography when determining sectionals ...in our own wrestling sectional Floyd Central and New Albany were both added (driving right past Jeffersonville, which is 10 minutes away) in order to try and even out the competition. 

Take that for what it is worth 

Might be a somewhat different situation because of wrestling being a 1 day Sectional with the winner based on team points. With football being 3 games and travel expenses being what they are, I just don't see the IHSAA doing anything but looking purely at geography.  We shall see soon enough I suppose.

I don't recall anyone making any predictions, other than the Sectional will be very, very tough. I think we know enough to not presume anything. If that's the group, HH will be the favorite without question. 

32 minutes ago, HHPatriots said:

What is the possibility that Southridge, Heritage Hills, Gibson Southern, Memorial, and Mater Dei all end up in the same sectional?

All of those teams could easily be in the top 10 and maybe even some in top 5 in 3A.  

I'd say it is the likely scenario. Not sure how the IHSAA could split them up to be honest. Add Mt. Vernon, Princeton & Vincennes Lincoln and that looks to be a Sectional. I would bet the 5 you mention will all easily be in the top 10 of the preseason poll. 

The only way GS, VL, HH, EM, PCHS, SR, MV & MD (listed by enrollment) aren't in the same Sectional is if there is some serious monkey business going on at the IHSAA. Adding Memorial and MD makes an obvious 8 team group in SWIN. Will be a tough, tough Sectional. Princeton is gonna have to burn a lot of boats...

Interesting that GS could very well be 4A next time around as they are 30 or so from the top of 3A. MD is less than 10 from the 2A cut-off, so they could potentially bounce down next time around.