NE8_Fan

15 hours ago, WCGrad92 said:

4A

 

 

1	New Haven	1068
2	Plymouth	1054
3	Marion	1045
4	DeKalb	1044
5	Lebanon	1033
6	East Chicago Central	1009
7	Gary West Side	995
8	East Noble	989
9	Kankakee Valley	989
10	Lowell	985
11	Highland	977
12	New Prairie	970
13	Silver Creek	943
14	Connersville	930
15	Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger	917
16	Frankfort	901
17	Leo	900
18	Wawasee	895
19	Northview	894
20	Beech Grove	892
21	South Bend Washington	886
22	Boonville	884
23	NorthWood	869
24	Evansville Bosse	863
25	Charlestown	854
26	South Bend Saint Joseph	849
27	Culver Academies	832
28	Brebeuf Jesuit	829
29	New Castle	824
30	Danville	820
31	Hanover Central	817
32	Yorktown	812
33	Washington	810
34	Indianapolis Bishop Chatard	730
35	Guerin Catholic	800
36	Jay County	800
37	Delta	798
38	Western	791
39	Mississinewa	783
40	Gibson Southern	771
41	Edgewood	761
42	Madison	760
43	Corydon Central	754
44	West Lafayette	750
45	Norwell	745
46	Angola	741
47	Mishawaka Marian	735
48	Lawrenceburg	726
49	Scottsburg	726
50	West Noble	718
51	Vincennes Lincoln	711
52	Crawfordsville	710
53	Hamilton Heights	687
54	Batesville	670
55	Twin Lakes	663
56	Greensburg	662
57	Franklin County	650
58	Owen Valley	650
59	Rushville	645
60	South Dearborn	645
61	Griffith	637

5A

 

 

 

1	Valparaiso	2140
2	Warsaw	2108
3	Whiteland	2074
4	South Bend Adams	2062
5	Decatur Central	2050
6	Merrillville	2050
7	Lafayette Jefferson	2034
8	Goshen	2006
9	Chesterton	1980
10	Castle	1965
11	Hammond Central	1923
12	Floyd Central	1823
13	New Albany	1814
14	LaPorte	1812
15	McCutcheon	1786
16	Plainfield	1773
17	Evansville North	1751
18	Concord	1730
19	Anderson	1722
20	Seymour	1719
21	Bloomington South	1681
22	Terre Haute South	1609
23	Franklin Community	1590
24	Bloomington North	1589
25	Hammond Morton	1534
26	Michigan City	1520
27	Columbus East	1518
28	Munster	1514
29	Terre Haute North	1467
30	Kokomo	1465
31	Fort Wayne North Side	1460
32	East Central	1241
33	Fort Wayne South Side	1459
34	Mt Vernon (Fortville)	1455
35	Greenfield-Central	1430
36	Mishawaka	1422
37	Fort Wayne Wayne	1416
38	Mooresville	1398
39	Northridge	1393
40	Huntington North	1382
41	Evansville Reitz	1378
42	Pendleton Heights	1353
43	Muncie Central	1332
44	Richmond	1320
45	Martinsville	1315
46	Hobart	1298
47	South Bend Riley	1298
48	Evansville Harrison	1293
49	Bedford-North Lawrence	1242
50	Logansport	1226
51	Greenwood	1211
52	New Palestine	1209
53	Indianapolis Cathedral	1172
54	Indianapolis Crispus Attucks	1170
55	Jennings County	1169
56	Columbia City	1162
57	Indianapolis Shortridge	1159
58	Evansville Central	1131
59	Shelbyville	1093
60	Jasper	1092
61	Indianapolis Roncalli	1082
62	New Haven	1068

You have New Haven in both 4A (biggest school) and 5A (smallest school)

Brock Rohrbacher was hired as the new Woodlan head football coach as of Jan 16

Go on Youtube and watch WE are the North by long takes media......should give you a few laughs......

12 hours ago, Yuccaguy said:

That NS game should be a "floater". 

Not so sure that the situation is a permanent one with the belief of them being a Top-Tier SAC team.   

I agree....the days of them being considered a top tier SAC team are over (at least they had one year right?  LOL).  I see them falling to a lower bottom half SAC team in the next 2 years....at least until they get a staff in place that can take control of the team (they are really missing the days of Hall and Kolkman)

1 hour ago, NE8Fan said:

AC will be the team to beat until dethroned.  3 straight crowns and 6 of the last 8.

I think it could be a 4 (even 5 depending who Woodlan hires) horse race behind them.

SW is getting better but will still be at the bottom I believe.

I have said it before but I wish there was more of a push for Bellmont to join the ACAC.  I understand the hesitation with our very strong wrestling and volleyball programs but those programs could still play weekend tournaments to prepare them for the postseason.

Agree completely, Belmont seems tailor made for the ACAC in terms of size and demographics.  Would compete extremely well and, like said, could bulk up their out of conference schedule for their stronger programs.  If they were to leave for the ACAC would love to see an Angola or maybe Dwenger join the NE8 (I know Dwenger would never leave the SAC but a guy can dream)

2 hours ago, LuersLurker said:

According to the Ihsaa web site, Luers won a 3A sectional in 2014, 2017, 2018.  

Not to mention they also won regionals in '14 and '18 while in 3A......

4 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

I think you've got to add Bluffton to the mix in the ACAC

good point......very good young RB coming back for them

What does the landscape in the 260 look like going into 2024?  Three teams advanced to state with 2 coming home with state titles and the third team accomplishing 3 straight trips to the finals.  

SAC- Does Snider run roughshod over the conference again?  Can they overcome graduation of a great senior class and reload or does Carroll rise back to the top after what had to be considered a disappointing season?  Can anyone crash the party at the top next year?  Who becomes the next major stars of the conference?  Snider and Luers bump up a class....how do they look to fair playing up a class?  Can Dwenger make any post season noise now that they went back "home" to 4A?  Is this new conference alignment ever going to really "work"?

NE8- What is the follow-up to Leo's championship season?  Can Brock Schott will the Lions to another NE8 title and continue his path of destruction?  Leo is another program that loses a great senior class has to fill a lot of holes with the likes of East Noble breathing down their neck.  Speaking of East Noble, trivia question, who scored the most points on state champion Snider last year?  The Knights did and they return a lot of talent next year, are they the prohibitive favorites in 24?  Can Columbia City make their way back to the top in Stratton Fuller's senior campaign? New Haven loses a TON of talent, how will they reload next year?  Will Bellmont ever get turf????  LOL

ACAC- Three straight trips to the state finals, regardless of the outcomes, is an incredible accomplishment and proves that Adams Central has earned the claim that ACAC has, in fact, stood for Adams Central Athletic Conference.  Can anyone change that?  Losing another crop of great seniors will be tough on the Jets but they are now to the point they just reload.  Can Heritage clip the Jets yet?  The Patriots are on a definite upward trajectory with no signs of letting up under coach Kolkman.  Does AC's "little brother" South Adams put themselves back into ACAC title contention?  

On 11/26/2023 at 12:05 AM, scarab527 said:

I’ll agree, NorthWood played EC a lot tougher than I thought they could. 
 

Not sure if that means anything for 4A North actually being competitive in the future. NorthWood had 2 P5 guys on the outside, don’t think that can be overstated. 
 

Maybe if Dwenger gets back to form. 

Don't look for this to happen anytime soon.....they may want to get back into 5A with Snider going up to 6A.....better chance to win a sectional because I SERIOUSLY doubt it will happen in Sectional 19 anytime soon......

As I look at Merrillville's schedule, I see the 10 win season but I also see that in those ten wins, their opponents combined for 42 wins themselves (Including Valpo last Fri.).   So in their wins, their opponents averaged just over 4 wins a piece.....I'm getting some eerily similar feelings as I had going into the Leo/Mississinewa game last week.....Merrillville could very well be smoke and mirrors, to an extent.  Snider will roll in this one.

Clear forcast tonite....temp in the mid to low 40's.  I think the game will be tight for the first half and then Snider blows it open in the second half (better halftime coaching/adjustments).  Panthers win going away 38-21

Definately going out tonite as the forcast looks pretty good and it is semi-state.  I did, though, stay home a few times this season when the weather wasn't going to be good as Fort Wayne area has really good streaming of games with Summit City Sports and watched from the comfort of my couch.  I will be at the NorthWood @ Leo game....Go Lions!

GAMEDAY.....and great football weather....a little light rain this morning and clear after 12pm....

3 minutes ago, psaboy said:

So Northwood has at least 4 D1 players??

I assume he's referring to Edmonds and Tuggle as DB's and they both also are their top WR's, both being D1 committed players.  Also heard around that Edmonds might be trying to swing Tuggle to Michigan....any truths to that?

Gotta admit, I didn't think this thread would be so quiet.....lol.  I think the majority of Fort Wayne fans are focusing on Snider, per usual, and the first ever meeting between Luers and LCC.  Those two games should be good BUT I strongly believe the NorthWood/Leo game will undoubtedly have the most high level talent (Schott, Hurst, Tuggle, Edmonds).  33 hours and counting......

Should be a great game between two Indiana football Blue Bloods.  I think we did get the 2 best teams in the North in this semi state game with Blufton being a close 3rd.  Offensive speed (Luers) vs  hard nosed D (LCC) should meet all expectations this game.  I'm not going to put ANY weight on travel for LCC as this program has made numerous trips like this in their storied past.  At the end of the night I think, as it has many times in the past, Luers strength of schedule pays off and they squeak this one out 22-21

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16 minutes ago, 00NWP said:

NE8_Fan...I like the fireworks comment.  I am not sure if you were at the game in 2020, however, in 30ish years of following NorthWood football, that is the 1st and only time I have ever seen a police officer escort a NW fan from the field.  Not a shinning moment for a parent / fan, however, it did get interesting toward the end of that game.

I was there....as a coach for Leo....lol.....we had quite the back to back sectional games with Northridge then NorthWood that year.....they were a headache to defend with the running QB they had that year (can't remember his name).....

Leo will likely have the best secondary Northwood has seen this year.  Don't let the East Noble passing stats fool you, Lions played all cover 0 that game and an over zealous blitzing spree hurt Leo as the RB's out of the backfield weren't accounted for and nearly cost Leo the game.  Hoeppner and Hurst will (somewhat) keep with Edmonds and Tuggle as Zeisloft stays over the top from Safety with the help of Schott harassing Roeder as I again don't see Northwood being able to block him one on one.  I still see the Lions blitzing, as its been what they've done all year,  and getting pressure while playing with a 2 deep shell.  Northwood will have trouble getting their running game going against the Lions front line with Sheron and Roberts clogging up the middle.  The big play is where NorthWood could hurt the Lions.  

Offensively Leo's diversity the last few weeks has really opened the playbook and payed off.  I honestly believe to beat the Panthers Leo MUST get the ball in the hands of Hurst and Schott 15-20 times while still feeding Carter in the running game.  If the Lions can get Carter going early and make the NorthWood  safeties creep up into the box, they should be able to go over the top for a couple big plays.  If they can get NorthWood rattled early and often, they could cause the Panthers to implode with penalties out of frustration.

With all that said, it is likely there WILL be fireworks this Friday and in the end will come down to line play as always and I honestly think Leo has a slight advantage because of their D-line.

Leo 35  NorthWood 24

Since I'm going to have a slow Friday at work I was hoping to drum up some conversation/thoughts about this game.  I know Miss is undefeated, ranked 5th and just knocked off Kokomo, BUT I still see the Lions winning this game.  Miss QB has thrown for @2400 yds this year with I believe 25 or so td's.  Saw there game with Kokomo and they look solid, big up front but line doesn't get to the second level defenders very well.  Rb is shifty and has some elusiveness to him.  I don't see them being able to consistently block Leo off the edges (ESPECIALLY Schott) or Sheron inside. I also don't see them having anyone individual who could keep Hurst or Schott locked down, or even keep in check, in coverage while Leo has shown to have solid coverage guys all over their secondary.  People may think I'm crazy but I see Leo winning this by 3 scores.   Leo 35, Mississinewa 14.   Thoughts?

15 hours ago, CoachT9bailey said:

Nothing is going to change at North Side.  I would be shocked if there were any changes at all.  

Maybe some of their players will see how Kaden Hurst blossomed outside of North and follow his lead and get off the sinking ship.....

Adams Central 48,  Carroll (Flora) 14-  Flying Jets continue to roll towards Lucas Oil

Blufton 24, Luers 21-  just have a funny feeling about this one....

Leo 35, Mississinewa 14-  I don't see ANYWHERE that the Indians have an advantage here.  They have no one that can cover Hurst and Schott and no one able to block Schott or Sheron....when I see Mississinewa I think that record is a lot of smoke and mirrors.....this outcome will never be in doubt.....

Snider 38, Mishawaka 21-  the Caveman offense will take about a quarter and a half for the Panther D to get acclimated to then it should be lights out.  Snider just has too many athletes on offense....

On 11/4/2023 at 9:56 PM, Komets2727 said:

First, everyone overestimated the talent at North Side. Tae is ok, but not someone I would want on my team. Not going into that further here. Second, this is a very poorly coached team. No discipline, coaches acting they are teenagers, hell, the coaches are like a pep team with their hype crap going on. Be an adult!! Last, have freaking respect for the game, your opponent, each other, and the officials. Just a complete embarrassment…

Could not have said it better.....if administration wants to "save" this program, they MUST replace the ENTIRE staff top to bottom....if not, this will only get worse......much, much worse.......

1 hour ago, NRRaider2001 said:

That's my fear, that someone's decision to be so petty might result in retaliation of equal or greater impact, unfortunately with social media it's a whole new world out there and things are permanent. 

Worst thing is that regardless of how I feel about what happened to the kids at my school is I'd hate to see it happen to someone else's kids, especially if scholarships are involved. 

I hope it wasn't a member of the team that was involved in this deal.  I have friends involved with the Northwood football family and family from there, I'll guarantee they would feel just as upset as Middlebury was when it was discovered how this went down.

I'd be willing to bet that admin for Wanee and some in the football program would agree with my take and it's not a tit for tat anyone wants to see.

These kids are just that, kids. Now thanks to a few factors, they didn't get to play their last game of their senior year and the general public sadly assumes it was a black and white case of being stupid on their parts. 

What's good for the goose is good for the gander......if someone is going to use certain tactics to gain an advantage, they should expect those tactics in return....

NorthSide has become a dumpster fire and the whole documentary has thrown gasoline on the fire.  The documentary has exposed how bad the staff is and their complete lack of control over the program.  Kaden Hurst MUST have seen this and got out and man has he shined.  Now I'm hearing that since Tae made the choice to end his season and have surgery to repair his shoulder before he gets to South Bend that Coach Johnson called Notre Dame to inform them that he THREW him off the team and that he is an attitude problem.....if thats the case, just remember team attitude reflects on the coaching attitude......js