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Valpo is the real deal.  Not that far away from LOS in 6A last year.  

2 hours ago, WolvesOnTheProwl said:

Random post but saw Mishawaka open with portage, east noble, then Gary west side. Little disappointed valpo is off the schedule and really hope that west side was/is a 1 year contract. Any other new teams on anyone’s schedule?

Penn and LaPorte start a 2 year home-and-home this season at Penn.

29 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

Michigan City lost a lot, I think.  Valpo will be tough, I hear.

City lost a lot, but they're still strong with a great coaching staff. 

Valpo will certainly be tough.  Remember they weren't they only lost by 4 to Carmel in semi-state last year.

LP should be improved from last year. Obviously, I'm biased.  A lot is changing on both sides of the ball.  There may be a little learning curve to get through early in the season.

13 hours ago, Bobref said:

New Pal has been very, very good for awhile. 74-4 over the last 6 seasons. You do know they could elect to play up a class for better competition? Why do you think they haven’t done that? Easier trophies?

Bob, do you think that IHSAA should apply the revised Rule 2-5d to the classifications for Fall sports starting in the 2019-2020 school year as they have done for winter and spring sports?

Cathedral is dropping to 4A after accruing 2 points in the last cycle as well (they won regionals in 2017).  This has bee discussed in another topic, but no one seems to be too concerned that IHSAA is applying this rule change to winter and spring sports and not to fall sports.

7 hours ago, slice60 said:

I missed another one in Football! In addition to Cathedral, FW Snider is dropping down to 5A in football even though they earned 2 Points with back-to-back Sectional titles.

There will probably be a couple of bumped-up Baseball/Softball teams to earn 2 Points & stay up just like Marquette Boys Basketball.

So if IHSAA would decide to apply the new rule to football like they did to other sports it would cause an interesting shake up in 5A and 6A.  FW Snider would remain in 6A next season and Cathedral would remain in 5A.  Due to the cap on the size of 6A this would push Valparaiso down to 5A starting next season and Bedford-North Lawrence down to 4A.  Then after the consolidation of Elkhart in 2020 they would move to 6A and Zionsville would dropped to 5A.

I can't see any appetite from any of the DAC schools to add Penn to the conference.  The DAC likes being the big school conference for the "region" and adding a school from St. Joe county, let alone one that would be the big dog as soon as they got in, isn't going to be supported by any of the schools.  Also, going to a 10 team league would screw up lots of traditional rivalries that these schools like to maintain.  I don't see the DAC being interested in adding a private school like Andrean either.  There really isn't a whole lot for the DAC to gain by adding anyone.

This has devolved into another discussion about Cathedral which is not what Slice60 was getting at.  

The basic question is why is the revised rule being applied to basketball and not to football?  The only reason I can think of is that the revision to the rule had been proposed prior to the reclassification for basketball so IHSAA took that into account when setting up the basketball classifications.

If the change in the rule for classification isn't going to be applied to football next season then maybe the change for participation quarters (54-3.1) shouldn't apply next year either.... (I am in no way advocating for that.  Just making a point)

Hopefully the IHSAA has recognized that this is an issue, and is discussing this now and they will either issue a revised football classification list, or they will explain why the rule change will not be applied.  I'm not sure if there are any other teams that this applies to, but I think the IHSAA needs to be consistent here.  Either both Cathedral football and Marquette boys basketball play up, or they both go back down.  

This is an interesting question.  On the IHSAA listing of classifications for boys basketball it is noted that Marquette is remaining in 2A "Pending proposed change in Rule 2-5d school would remain in higher class".  

There were no provisions made for this situation in the football classifications (i.e. with Cathedral).

Basically it appears that the change to the rule was applied when reclassifying boys basketball and not for football.  

Boone Grove in 2A plays their home games at Valparaiso HS so they play on turf.... but don't have their own home field.

57 minutes ago, btownqbcoach said:

 

1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
Crown Point	Chesterton	Carroll	Carmel	Avon	BD	LC	Center Grove	32
Lake Central	Penn	Homestead	Westfield	Brownsburg	Tech	WC	CN	31
Merrillville	Portage	Noblesville	HSE	Pike	Perry Meridian	LN	CE	1
Laf Jeff	Valpo	Warsaw	Fishers	Zionsville	Southport	North Central	Franklin Cent
9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
LaPorte	Concord	FW BD	Anderson	Decatur Cent	Franklin	Bloom South	BNL	33
Michigan City	Elk Central	FW Snider	Laf Harrison	Plainfield	New Pal	Bloom North	FC	21
Mishawaka	Elk Memorial	FW Northrop	Kokomo	TH North	Seymour	Castle	NA	8
Munster	Goshen	FW NS	McCutheon	TH South	Whiteland	Ev North	Jeff	4
SB Adams
17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24
East Chicago	Culver	Angola	Delta	Connersville	Beech Grove	East Central	Boonville	63
Gary WS	Kankakee Valley	Columbia City	FW SS	Greenfield Central	Frankfort	Greenwood	Jasper	30
Griffith	Logansport	DeKalb	FW Wayne	Mt. Vernon Fortville	Cathedral	JC	Eville Central	26
Hammond Gavit	New Prairie	East Noble	Huntington North	Muncie Central	Attucks	Madison	Eville Memorial	5
Hammond Morton	Plymouth	Leo	Jay County	New Castle	Shortridge	SC	Eville Reitz	2
Highland	SB Clay	Northridge	Marion	Pendleton Heights	Lebanon	Mooresville	Eville Harrison
Hobart	SB Riley	NorthWood	Mississinewa	Richmond	Roncalli	Martinsville	Northview
Lowell	SB St Joe	Wawasee	New Haven	Shelbyville	Western	SD
Total
82	Turf
34	Don't have turf
10	Haven't confirmed
2	Don't have own field
82/116	71%	4A-6A
	100%	6A
	72%	5A
	54%	4A

 

This is my spreadsheet as of now. When I hear from those ten schools in yellow, I will update accordingly. Might do a 3A one as well. 

Highland has turf going in this summer

Griffith has turf (I think someone just mentioned that)

12 hours ago, DT said:

Your school should have contracted the football program due to a lack of competitiveness and reallocated those athletic funds to other more worthy causes.  Its selfish to hog all the money on a cash guzzling sport like football and provide the school with no return on investment.

There are 420 high schools in Indiana.  100 choose not to play football.

 

This is not ground breaking stuff here.  Its simple common sense and good solid financial decision making.

 

I've played on winning teams and losing teams.  I've coached youth teams that were really good and others that struggled.  I've celebrated with teammates and players I've coached on the field.  I've cried with them too.  I find it amazing that you seem to have been able to develop a simple quantitative measurement of the value of a football program.  Please enlighten us on what factors should considered when you calculate the ROI of a high school football program....  Is it monetary profit?  Is it judged purely on the scoreboard or record?  Championships?  

It seems like you spend a lot of time here for someone who appears to dislike high school football.

On 4/18/2019 at 12:34 PM, Coach Nowlin said:

coming from Roncalli so........   wild guess, maybe Cathedral   

All seems to be about transfers between private schools without defined boundaries. 

22 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

No. I'd love to see co-op programs established but that's not on the IHSAA's radar right now. 

This absolutely needs to be part of the discussions surrounding 8-man football.  

1 hour ago, Major said:

Glenn and Bremen to the HNAC.  New Prairie and Jimtown to NLC.  South Bend trim down to 2 public high schools.  

 

Then St. Joe, Marian, Penn, 2 South Bend public school, new Elkhart public high school join Duneland.  Nice 14 team conference.  For football split east and west by placing Laporte in the east.  

Nope. There will be absolutely no appetite for that in LaPorte.

3 hours ago, slicercoach said:

This REALLY bothers me.  The stance is an absolute fundamental.  Imagine a Little League baseball coach not teaching the kids how to stand in the batters box.  Just the ramblings of a 35 year offensive line veteran...

 

Coach, think of it this way, we're just teaching the kids to see their target and throw a good fast ball before we let them start throwing breaking balls. 😉 

2 hours ago, Coach P said:

I work a number of Youth Camps at our High School and Coordinate the O-line portion of the Bishop- Dullahan Youth camp and have not had much trouble teaching stance. USA football has a very easy method of teaching the stance.  We use a few simple commands and it is done. I do agree that with kids below the 3rd grade level, it does tend to get more difficult though. I have played with the thought of going from a two point stance with my varsity guys, but it is my opinion that you lose your angles of leverage when coming from a two point stance in the run game. I also will say, that we never lead with the head. We lead with the hands and want our eyes below our hands. 

I was primarily talking about kids in 3rd grade and below.  The divisions Pop Warner is doing this in basically cover kids up to 4th grade (possibly 5th grade in Jr. Pee Wee for older/lighters).  

Tiny Mite and Mighty Mite are "supposed" to be instructional.  They're not even supposed to keep score at the Tiny Mite level (of course everyone does).  

Getting into a 3 point stance and firing out with your hands making initial contact and with your head up is just a difficult set of mechanics to get a 7 year old to get sometimes.  Are there kids who can do it?  Of course.  But a lot have difficulty with it because their bodies just cannot do it because their arm and leg proportions are so out of wack for some kids at that age.

As a Pop Warner Coach I welcome this at these levels.  One of the most difficult things to get a younger player to do at that age is to get into a proper stance.  Often times this is simply due to geometry of a growing body.  Their bodies just aren't built to get into a proper stance.  This leads to kids who either squat like a frog; or kids who get their butts up, but can't lift their heads to see what is in front of them.

Welcome to La Porte Coach Lowery!

https://www.heraldargus.com/sports/out-of-the-blue/article_555c16b0-32c9-5991-865e-b3f4cdc4bc20.html

13 hours ago, Tommy said:

Thing are not going to change at all for La Porte under Lowery from what it was under Dave Sharpe.

https://www.thenewsdispatch.com/sports/article_28dc0bf4-e147-5d55-a2ae-c4ee091f21d0.html

Things will definitely be different... the reason is right in the article:

"It all sets up the passing game."

Welcome to La Porte Coach Lowery!

2 hours ago, DT said:

Why would the GID brass go to all that trouble, and all that expense,  replacing a server and rebooting this site, for a measly 500 members?

I assume that the "GID brass" did it for the same reason I volunteer to coach youth football, serve on youth organization boards and to work varsity games on Friday nights; they love this game and believe in its value.

I would hate to see this site go to a pay site.  I'm happy to donate now, but I think there are a lot like me who will lurk and post only once in a while.  Youth and high school football in Indiana is driven by volunteers.  Yes, there are paid coaches at the high school level, but for the most part it's peanuts.  Assistants, parents, players, boosters, youth coaches, etc.... none of us are in this for the money or for profit.

8 hours ago, DT said:

Very rare for a southern Indiana coach to come up this far north.  Might be a bit of a culture shock for the young man.  

Does he have Yankee roots?

Played at Penn.

39 minutes ago, HanShotFirst said:

Though I laud the sentiment and fully support the "Joe" - not the "X and O," isn't this exactly what LaPorte did with the hire of Dave Sharpe? Passing up the "heart and soul of the program" to bring in another top-notch guy, with a specific offensive background, who was going to bring with him a specific approach to scoring points?  A nightmare for opposing coaches, the Slicers found immediate success, going 22-10 in his first three years.

Dave Sharpe was a great coach for this team and this town and personally I hated to see him go.  When Coach Sharpe was hired it was not because of the Power T.  He was hired because he was believed to be the best candidate.  I think the results he was able to get out of the program for the 4 years he was here is solid evidence that he was a great choice.  I have faith that the selection process this time around will produce another great selection.

Personally, I loved the Power T, but that wasn't the only reason those teams were successful.  There were good players and good coaches who all believed in each other and the systems they were running. Remember, the year before Coach Sharpe arrived La Porte was in the 5A state finals. 

I'm not going to theorize about why Coach James wasn't hired the last time around.  I love that guy and I'm so glad he's a part of our community.

4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I would imagine they are looking for the best candidate to lead LaPorte HS and are not going to pigeon hole themselves in a certain direction offensively.  

This.