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With school choice and open enrollment, there is a lot of recruiting going on in the public schools.  We still receive mail trying to get my kids to transfer to Beech Grove or Center Grove and they have both graduated from college!

IPS is a horrible system so lots of IPS athletes end up at other publics (e.g., Franklin Central or Triton Central), P/Ps (e.g., Chatard or Roncalli), or privates (e.g., Cathedral or Brebeuf).  Triton Central has many athletes who live in Franklin Township and Warren Township of Marion County.  Always an influx of new students after basketball try-outs end.  The same goes for New Pal and other doughnut county schools.  Remember the Indy Star article last season about the brothers who are stud football players at New Pal?  They live in Marion County. 

I do NOT begrudge parents who try to send their kids to better schools!   

12 hours ago, Just a dad said:

@DumfriesYMCA Not sure if BCHS is a “special” team this year. The defense is much better since 7 of this year’s starters return from last years defense where they also started. So senior defense but the skill positions are not as deep or talented on offense. They graduated their QB, top 2 WRs and top 2 TEs. The O line is bigger which should help them control the ball. Against Brebeuf, the BJHS coach essentially said his team wasn’t prepared and got tired. Roncalli was a close game and (as with the last two years) could have gone either way. In the Cathedral game the coaches figured out how to make O’Neil uncomfortable by disguising coverages and putting pressure in his face. They were losing that game 21-0 until the defense got it’s feet under it. They could just as easily be 1-2 in conference. That being said, they have a tremendous amount of fight in them and won’t be intimidated by anyone. They are beatable but a team will have to win in the trenches and be able to throw effectively if they get behind. From what I am seeing, there are some talented teams in 3A. As always, though, BCHS will be battle tested going into the playoffs while some teams play a much weaker schedule. A quick check of Calpreps trends says that Lincoln looks like the team that will face the toughest competition the rest of the way. Going into the playoffs after playing a bunch of teams with negative ratings is no way to prepare kids for the grind. It does make the fans of those teams feel good, though. Until they face unfamiliar pressure and typically that is when the cracks show. 

Great assessment!  I had an earlier post where I stated that Roncalli was way down this year and I also stated that Chatard is down.  I agree with your assessment that Chatard's defense is better and more experienced than last year but that Chatard's offense is down after losing some great players.  The OL is bigger but Chatard has always had smallish lines with great technique and grit.  Just like all Indy area Catholic schools, Chatard plays extremely hard and will not back down from anyone.

As far as this game, Chatard wins easily.  Guerin is weak in the trenches.  Roncalli manhandled Guerin and would have had over 400 yards rushing if they hadn't tried to pass so much in the second quarter.  Twice Roncalli failed to place a DB in coverage and it burned them once for an uncontested TD.  The second time the WR dropped a sure TD pass.  The game should not have even been close.  

It will be a long night and long season for the Royals.  This is the smallest Roncalli team in size and depth in several years.  

Think about this - Louisville Male came into the Roncalli game with a strong rush defense. They had given up an average of 76 yards rushing against Kentucky 6A #1 (St. Xavier), Kentucky 6A #2 (Ballard) and Kentucky 6A #5 (Trinity). Remember also that Male defeated Trinity who has wins over Carmel and Center Grove.

The Royals rushed for 414 yards against Male on Friday night!

Hansen is a stud with very good strength and decent speed.  He finished 7th at 182 pounds last season so his hips and balance are exceptional.  The O-line is very big and physical and defense plays hard.  Roncalli really needs more consistent QB and WR play before I rank them in top 5 of whole state.  We will see how good they are next week against a very good Elder team.

On 9/26/2022 at 8:24 AM, DumfriesYMCA said:

At least they have the OL to back it up on these matchups.  

Not quite as big as last couple of seasons but big for a high school team:

LT - Trevor Lauck 6'7 290 (Iowa)
LG - Brady Neu 6'4 278 (Central Michigan)
C - Luke Skartvedt 6'5 317 (Northern Illinois)
RG - Luke Billerman 6'2 275
RT - Jackson McNeeley 6'4 283 (St. Francis)

"Heavy Formation" TE - Luke Swartz 6'2 280

Roncalli lost their soccer field when they built the Fine Arts wing.  Due to ADA regulations, it was going to cost over $1.5 million to build a new grass soccer stadium.  Instead Roncalli saved over $700,000 by placing field turf on the football field.  Now that facility is used nearly every day all year round - band practices, football practices & games, soccer practices & games, lacrosse practices & games, early season baseball practices, early season softball practices, CYO football games, K-2 flag football games, Scecina football game rentals, IHSAA football playoff game rentals, professional ultimate disc game rentals, graduation ceremonies, etc.    

25 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

Swartz is also playing OL when they go heavy run package.  (Extra OL instead of a WR)

The JR class really does not have much in size, so they are really dependent on about 6 SR OL/DL.

I was quite plesently surprised that the JV beat Cathedral.

Roncalli will likely have a big drop off next season.  Very little size beyond the current starters.  The JV has had a good year with only one loss to Franklin Central.  The freshman class has some talent but has losses to Franklin Central, Cathedral and Guerin JV.

On 9/19/2022 at 6:15 AM, fenderbender said:

As a side note, Roncalli has more two way players this year than normal.  The Lauck kid is going to Iowa and should always be on the field.  6'7" 300lbs.  

Even the RB that is leading the state in rushing yards is playing LB.

Roncalli has two guys going both ways - Lauck at OT/NT and Tunney at TE/LB.  Hansen has only played about 20 snaps max at DE but he has 4 sacks/tackles for loss.

Roncalli's next three games are KILLER, arguably the toughest schedule in the State!  The Royals can easily finish 6-3 after a 6-0 start.

Louisville Male - three-time defending State runner-ups in Kentucky 6A, over 900 wins in school history, has a victory over Louisville Trinity who has defeated both Carmel and Center Grove this season.

Cincinnati Elder - has dominating wins over Louisville St. Xavier who has wins over Louisville Male plus Louisville Trinity and Cincinnati St. Xavier (42-10) who earlier this season defeated Penn 35-10. Elder's only loss is a 17-14 squeaker to national powerhouse Cleveland St. Edwards.

East Central - another dominating season with only loss to Ohio #2 Cincinnati Moeller.

Roncalli 31 Brebeuf Jesuit 14 final to clinch Circle City Conference title.  Luke Hansen finished with 266 yards on 41 carries and 4 TDs.

Roncalli 38 Columbus North 17 final.  Luke Hansen rushes for 307 yards and ended with 373 total yards and 5 TDs.  He has rushed over 1,000 yards in first 4 games.

Roncalli 17
Bishop Chatard 14
Final

Royals win on a FG with 0:08 on clock.

15 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Is this a trophy game?

No

1 hour ago, fenderbender said:

Roncalli is really struggling to replace Lockard at WR.   His loss due to concussion against Chartard in Sectionals was a big factor in the Mt. Vernon loss last season.     He was able to stretch the defense with the deep ball and that really opened up the running game.

I also think the QB running game that was a strength the last several season is not going to be there this year and that also hurts.

Agreed.  Hansen is a workhorse but, right now, he is the entire offense for the Royals.  This has to change and quick!  Franklin Central loaded the box with 8 or 9, same as Mt. Vernon last year.  I expect Chatard to be much better than Franklin Central.  Moyers is not a mobile QB so he must improve his accuracy and the new WRs need to make some plays.

What are your thoughts on this game?  

I have attended both of Roncalli's games.  The Royal defense is much farther along and have played well against mixed competition.  The Royal offense lost a four year starter at QB, Aidan Leffler, who now plays at Ball State.  The new QB has very little experience as he missed all of last season with an injury.  The Royals also do not appear to have as much depth as in the past.  Chatard lost several leaders from last season but they are always very tough and very disciplined.

Roncalli's OL is not quite as big as the last couple of seasons as they lost Grant Ray (6'1 290) to UIndy and Sam Seacrest (6'6 305) to Louisville.  They do have good size:

Trevor Lauck - 6'7 290 (Iowa)
Brady Neu - 6'4 278 (Central Michigan)
Luke Skartvedt - 6'5 317 (Northern Illinois)
Luke Billerman - 6'2 275
Jackson McNeeley - 6'4 283

Seems like it is always Roncalli's size versus Chatard's fundamentals and quickness.        

On 8/30/2022 at 6:50 AM, fenderbender said:

Not sure anymore, but it sounds from CYOGURU that things are bad enough at Ritter that kids are willing to pay that higher rate.

 

 

Parochial schools are subsidized by the Parishes in their deanery (district).  The last time that I checked, each Parish pays their deanery school around $150,000 per year to subsidize tuition.  The Parochial schools in Indy area are Cardinal Ritter (west), Scecina (East), Bishop Chatard (North), and Roncalli (South).  There are at least two rates of tuition at each Parochial school - Parish affiliated and non-affiliated.  Parents are free to send their children to another deanery school, but they pay higher tuition.  The Parochial schools have all singed an agreement to not recruit students outside of their deanery. 

Cathedral and Brebeuf Jesuit are NOT Parochial schools, they are privately owned by religious orders outside of the archdiocese.  For that reason, Cathedral and Brebeuf can seek students from anywhere in the State.     

I know that Coach Hunt alienated many of the long-time football families and players began to migrate to other schools (mostly Chatard) several years ago.  Ritter is struggling to field a team with only 35 players on roster and will likely pay the price for a long time.    

Roncalli has 49 players on the freshman team roster with an 8 game freshman schedule with 1 game played against a JV team.

Official announcement today at 3:00.

1 hour ago, CaptainHook said:

I was under the impression teams must submit 75 players that will dress for the playoffs.  You don't get to submit a new 75 each week.

 

I have heard the reason for this is to prevent a "move-in" once the playoffs begin?

I am sure that Roncalli submitted the full varsity roster of 92 players and they can pick the 65 that they want to dress for each game, as long as they do not dress someone who is not on the full roster of 92.

1 hour ago, CaptainHook said:

I was under the impression teams must submit 75 players that will dress for the playoffs.  You don't get to submit a new 75 each week.

 

I have heard the reason for this is to prevent a "move-in" once the playoffs begin?

Must be expensive for Roncalli since they rotate sophomores each game.  They sit a different 25 players each playoff game.  First game it was high numbered sophs then this week it was low numbered sophomores.  

Roncalli 42
Lebanon 14

Final 

Roncalli 42
Lebanon 14

1:09 in 3rd

Roncalli is playing with mostly JV players 

Roncalli 42
Lebanon 7

8:50 in 3rd

Running clock

3 minutes ago, Lysander said:

East Central.    10

Mooresville.       3

8:11 left in 2nd Q

I thought Mooresville was up 7-3 earlier?