Just a dad

I’d be willing to bet that most kids are referring to creatine and weight gainers. When asking kids if they use anything to enhance their appearance that leaves a lot to interpretation. “12% of boys reported using products to enhance appearance, muscle mass or strength” vs “12% of boys reported using steroids” would have been more in line with the clickbait headline. The author clearly doesn’t know the difference. And he refers to “one study” for his data set. A quick peek at his LinkedIn says he has “research experience”. This article might be the full extent of that experience. This is the actual cited reference from the article “According to a 2016 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the prevalence of PED use among high school athletes in the United States ranged from 2.7% to 4.0%, depending on the specific sport.6 Another study found that 8% of girls and 12% of boys used products to improve appearance, muscle mass, or strength, and 3.3% of high school students admitted to using steroids.7 “3.3% of high school athletes admitted to using steroids” is the actual number. This is the cited study: Dandoy C, Gereige RS. Performance-enhancing drugs. Pediatr Rev. Jun 2012;33(6):265-71; quiz 271-2. doi:10.1542/pir.33-6-265 It’s from 2012. Not sure that it qualifies as “still a major issue”. Why did I waste my time going down this rabbit hole? I must be bored out of my skull this morning.

I’m very aware. Maybe, before you make your 7th post on the forum, you should go back and read through some of the earlier threads on this topic. Either way, welcome to the forum.

So those people whose kids attend private schools should not have to pay school taxes to the district where they live? What about if one doesn’t have kids at all? Should they pay school taxes? Saying they should “lose their rights” kind of sounds like taxation without representation. Pretty sure that “right” was already fought over during a large tea party some years ago. You are wearing roller skates on a slippery slope here. What is the next step? Let those low income areas rot. To hell with the poors, the old, the infirm? Look out Porter Co with your paltry .005 county income tax rate. You guys might want to look into grouping up with the other low tax county to start your own league before “they” start coming after you for not pulling your weight.

1. Didn’t say it was all athletic scholarship money. Academic scholarship money and forgivable grants are nice, too. 2. Indoor track is a thing in Indiana 3. Do some research into the cost of private HS tuition after the $7k state credit and other incentives. You will find that it is less than $6k/yr. If you choose the right school 4. Played a few years of 7v7 but that cost is nothing. No private trainers or coaches, no workshops, no paid recruiting consultants, 2 single day college camps (about $150 total). 5. Club VB is a killer (mostly due to hotels) but Title IX should make that a low risk investment in the future. (I offset 2/3 of that cost by coaching for the club) 6. Don’t make this an us vs them competition, dude. It’s possible to want every kid to succeed.

He actually has 3 rings. 2 sport star. They are shiny. Daughter will probably end up with 3 as well. Both will get to play college sports on someone else's dime. $500k worth of free college education for my kids for just a few years of high value, low cost HS education. I’m like the Warren Buffet of choosing High Schools. I’m done with this subject. You clowns bore me.

You have beautiful facilities up there in the cornfields. Between the stadium, gym and school grounds it must have cost you tax payers millions. I am sure Chatard will miss using them during their warm up for their playoff run this year.

Is it? My mind would go there with any school that is on their 4th HC in 7 years. Especially with the one they just ran off having won Marion County Coach of the Year the year before. I would hope the Administration realizes that they will be losing talent to the new top program in the south (Center Grove) now so this may not be the prime opportunity they think it is. Unless LH is returning from college to carry the ball 40+ times a game I don’t think the Admin will be happy with anyone. Do you have any thoughts that would be constructive to this topic?

Nobody “turning” just think a good coach got run out and am curious as to why. Admin speak is always double talk.

Is “philosophical differences” code for “wouldn’t play the rich donor’s kid”?

See @foxbat. They are easy to find.

I have learned in a very short time on the GID that some of the people are so attached to their narrative that it has become a defining part of who they are. To admit that there might even be the slightest chance that their chosen narrative might not be 100% correct causes them so much cognitive dissonance that they won’t even give credence to a differing perspective. They have chosen to go all in on the “it’s not fair” argument and that is all it will ever be. You choosing to supply facts and data will never counter their preferred explanation. After all, if they admit that “it’s not fair” is wrong then they are suddenly forced to face the fact that it comes down to something else. Maybe personal accountability. Their egos are too fragile to deal with that. Nice post though. Don’t be surprised if you get blasted by the fairness brigade.

Now email the same guy and tell him your kid has a SAT score of 1500 and wants to get into Harvard but isn’t good at sports. I bet he tells you the same thing. Not quite the “gotcha” you were hoping for.

Clearly the God that the Catholic schools support is better at football than the god that public schools choose to (or choose not to) support. The big time version of “My dad can beat up your dad!”

Additionally the State of Indiana pays a little over $10k per public school student per year (your tax dollars). A school accepting the voucher is only paid $7k. This starts the accepting school off in a $3k hole per student (they then make this up with the additional tuition) and benefits the State by the same amount. A P/P of 800 kids starts with a deficit of $2.4M. The IHSAA is a business (google “IHSAA salaries”) that works in conjunction with the State of Indiana. All of these discussions about separating P/P from public would likely cause the P/P schools to leave the IHSAA and form their own organization. This would be a not insignificant hit to the IHSAA’s bottom line. Do you think the IHSAA wants to see their $150k salaries be reduced? Also, there might be a few families that then decide to send their kid to the public school (if they are chasing a ring) which would cause the State’s expenses to increase. This is a symbiotic relationship that benefits the parties that make the money. As George Carlin said “It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!”

Here is a photo I saw on X yesterday of the Chatard State Championship team from 25 years ago. To save everyone from having to count (unless you love seeing enormously oversized shoulder pads), there are 31 kids in uniform. What’s my point? Every program has to start somewhere. Chatard didn’t get to 85 on varsity overnight.