Screagle

I think those two schools were on SIAC radar from day 1. Two great additions to the conference. Schedule is going to be a grind in several sports.  

Would miss the battles of Castle and Memorial in all the sports if they split big and small. 

How would large / small SIAC look? not sure on several  enrollments.  Would a multiplier effect be used for private schools like EM, MD, Gibson Southern and Jasper?  Kidding on last two!!  

All of 3A should just be glad they are not in sectional 28. I’d drive 5 hours for tournament game to avoid that thing!’ 

Refresh my memory... which teams were added and which teams subtracted?

3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Reminder IFCA original proposal was 4 years 10 points 

 

 

Makes sense! 

Longer cycle make sense IMO. 

Just doesn’t add up. Went to the 4A title game last season, most likely the favorite to win another sectional, most likely the favorite to win the SIAC, a very talented group of kids coming back, plus, three move-in’s from the state of Illinois. 

He did not receive a pay bump. 

HH is my pick to win the PAC and whatever sectional they end up in. 

T32 you have all the calprep scores posted with VL and Jasper. You talk about domination by GS football for the next several years. You talk about GS being different. And you reply with being married and you win??  

5 hours ago, Titan32 said:

Yeah...it goes much deeper than feeder “records” and has little to do with athletes.  Usually the biggest factor is group buy in (parents and players) to the formula that we feel produces a quality varsity result.  We have to build things differently than I suspect what your used to.

Well GS has reinvented the wheel. So it takes parents and players to buy in? 

“We have to build things differently than I suspect what your used to.”

Would  love to hear WTH that means. 

Might want to read again.....90% of SW Indiana. Can’t speak for teams out of this area. I visit enough schools and coaches in this area to see that most have really good feeder programs. 

What is different about GS compared to programs in SW Indiana. Enlighten us less knowledgeable fans. 

North?  Huh? 

Lol. Model? Please explain on here. I’m sure everyone will “grab their popcorn” and listen. 

Since Hart era is all you like to talk about I’m guessing the Hart model?  

I’m guessing GS not doing anything different than 90% of all the programs in SW Indiana.  

I could be wrong but I’m not sure GS has made it out of a sectional 4 of the past 5 years.  

My point is Castle rarely loses a feeder football game at any level.  Great feeder program that has tons of kids. 2 7th grade teams, 2 8th grade teams and all 4 teams usually very good.  And those teams even combine in high school.  Memorials group that just won state and then played for state rarely won at any level. Class on 18, 19, and 20 rarely had success. Matter of fact they struggled against almost all SIAC teams in 7th and 8th grade....all 3 classes. 

2 hours ago, Sacked said:

Honest question. If you don't look at how your feeder schools do, how do you know what you have coming up the pipeline? Do you just wait until they are freshman and hope for the best? 

Absolutely not! I think any school that has a good feeder program is most likely getting good results. Any good HC is deeply involved in their feeder program. Wins and losses by feeder teams have zero impact on varsity football. JMO. Just hard to imagine a person can look at 5th grade football and know that’s a “grab your popcorn” group. 

T32 That’s a skill that could earn you a very lucrative salary.  I would bet Castle fans feel they should win state championship after championship based on feeder team records. 

5th and 6th grade? 5th grade is projected as the “get your popcorn” group?  Are you sure you’re not working for a scouting service?

On 3/1/2019 at 1:45 PM, CJJL said:

1A- Hagerstown

2A- Bremen

3A- Jimtown

4A- Jasper

5A- Castle

6A- Warren Central

100% agree on Castle. Endless resources, 2000 students, and a very winnable sectional and regional every year. 

6 hours ago, Sacked said:

I would disagree. Heritage Hills leads the series over Jasper. You can't count them out as a contender, they will be. 

All-time Series:
Heritage Hills vs. Jasper

Date		Result		Series
10-27-1978	Heritage Hills	7 - 27	Jasper	0-1
10-26-1979	Heritage Hills	0 - 19	Jasper	0-2
10-29-1993	Heritage Hills	27 - 14	Jasper	1-2
11-04-1994	Heritage Hills	7 - 40	Jasper	1-3
11-03-1995	Heritage Hills	17 - 21	Jasper	1-4
10-18-1996	Heritage Hills	24 - 21	Jasper	2-4
09-07-2001	Heritage Hills	14 - 7	Jasper	3-4
09-13-2002	Heritage Hills	23 - 21	Jasper	4-4
09-12-2003	Heritage Hills	24 - 7	Jasper	5-4
09-10-2004	Heritage Hills	34 - 31	Jasper	6-4
09-09-2005	Heritage Hills	31 - 17	Jasper	7-4
09-08-2006	Heritage Hills	21 - 0	Jasper	8-4
09-07-2007	Heritage Hills	17 - 13	Jasper	9-4
09-12-2008	Heritage Hills	0 - 18	Jasper	9-5
09-11-2009	Heritage Hills	14 - 17	Jasper	9-6
09-10-2010	Heritage Hills	7 - 13	Jasper	9-7
09-09-2011	Heritage Hills	24 - 14	Jasper	10-7
09-08-2012	Heritage Hills	0 - 14	Jasper	10-8
09-13-2013	Heritage Hills	16 - 26	Jasper	10-9
09-12-2014	Heritage Hills	14 - 24	Jasper	10-10
09-11-2015	Heritage Hills	21 - 14	Jasper	11-10
09-09-2016	Heritage Hills	10 - 7	Jasper	12-10
09-08-2017	Heritage Hills	14 - 35	Jasper	12-11
09-08-2018	Heritage Hills	14 - 12	Jasper	13-11

Heritage Hills leads series 13-11

I would agree. I was only including the ones mentioned by seal 63 and T32. 

6 hours ago, Sacked said:

I would disagree. Heritage Hills leads the series over Jasper. You can't count them out as a contender, they will be. 

All-time Series:
Heritage Hills vs. Jasper

Date		Result		Series
10-27-1978	Heritage Hills	7 - 27	Jasper	0-1
10-26-1979	Heritage Hills	0 - 19	Jasper	0-2
10-29-1993	Heritage Hills	27 - 14	Jasper	1-2
11-04-1994	Heritage Hills	7 - 40	Jasper	1-3
11-03-1995	Heritage Hills	17 - 21	Jasper	1-4
10-18-1996	Heritage Hills	24 - 21	Jasper	2-4
09-07-2001	Heritage Hills	14 - 7	Jasper	3-4
09-13-2002	Heritage Hills	23 - 21	Jasper	4-4
09-12-2003	Heritage Hills	24 - 7	Jasper	5-4
09-10-2004	Heritage Hills	34 - 31	Jasper	6-4
09-09-2005	Heritage Hills	31 - 17	Jasper	7-4
09-08-2006	Heritage Hills	21 - 0	Jasper	8-4
09-07-2007	Heritage Hills	17 - 13	Jasper	9-4
09-12-2008	Heritage Hills	0 - 18	Jasper	9-5
09-11-2009	Heritage Hills	14 - 17	Jasper	9-6
09-10-2010	Heritage Hills	7 - 13	Jasper	9-7
09-09-2011	Heritage Hills	24 - 14	Jasper	10-7
09-08-2012	Heritage Hills	0 - 14	Jasper	10-8
09-13-2013	Heritage Hills	16 - 26	Jasper	10-9
09-12-2014	Heritage Hills	14 - 24	Jasper	10-10
09-11-2015	Heritage Hills	21 - 14	Jasper	11-10
09-09-2016	Heritage Hills	10 - 7	Jasper	12-10
09-08-2017	Heritage Hills	14 - 35	Jasper	12-11
09-08-2018	Heritage Hills	14 - 12	Jasper	13-11

Heritage Hills leads series 13-11

I agree with you, sir. I was only including the 3 mentioned by Seal 63 and T32 

IMO if those 3 end up together Jasper will be the more dominant team over the long haul. Hard to argue with the success they’ve had over several decades.  GS would be my 2nd pick based on the success Hart had from 2012 to 2015. Based on last couple seasons it looks like Levi is doing it the right way.  I still give GS a slight edge over VL.  It would be nice to see HH and SR play in 32 just because of the rivalry in sports.  

Seal 63. Not very familiar with VL football. What does the future look like?  

4 hours ago, eschnur66 said:

Let's not start conversations about kids when we do not know all of the details

Zero negativeness on either situation. Just pointing out that both of last two years Bosse picked up a really good player each year.  I have no problem with it. IMO parents have to do what they feel is best for their kid. SIAC there are several choices out there. I think middle school parents whose kids play sports would be stupid not to look at best situation both academically and athletically for high school.