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52 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

I really hope you would need more evidence than a 3 phone videos spliced together. 
 

If I was involved as a player, fan, or coach I might see things differently. I see an outside receiver running a post, and an inside receiver running a corner. 
 

The DB playing man coverage (with outside leverage) gets off balance and falls into the path of the outside receiver. 
 

That is why contact occurs. The end result is bad because the DB’s head probably hits the receiver’s knee. Unfortunate but not a penalty 

If you watch close enough, the outside receiver braces for the contact. That to me is a dead giveaway for OPI (illegal pick) in that situation. On top of that, there were at least two different take downs by the O-line at the LOS. Prayers for the player that was hurt, but I too agree that this crew blew multiple calls on this play.

5 minutes ago, itiswhatitis said:

Yep, I remember when they kept winning it.  Quite an achievement.  And now there are three 4 peat champs.  Sheridan went 4 times during the Nick Zackery years, but lost the last one I believe. I'd have to check but I think that's correct.

Yes, lost in 2008 to Indianapolis Ritter.

3 hours ago, Miner_Pride said:

I tell ya though.. it was a doozie of a game in 2017.   A battle of wills.  Miners drove 58 yards to open with a 7-0 lead on a Cash Howard 20 yard run.  The VIkings were picked on the first offensive play for them by Dreydan Ward athe Miner 48, but after reaching the NP 24, Keaton's Cox' scramble fell a yard short.  N.Posey tied things up with an 11 play 70 yard drive on an 18 yard Alex Stewart run at 1:02 in the 1st.  Linton was driving again, 1st and 10 at the Viking 39 when Cox fumbled with Stewart recovering.  NP moved as well, mixing the pass and the run effectively to the Miner 10 facing 3rd and 3, but a holding call pushed them back, resulting in Carter Martin missing a 39 yard Field Goal to the left nearly half way thru the 2nd.  Linton took that momentum and had big running plays from Lannan (21 and 14) and Dyuer (27) to push into the red zone, with Cox scoring from 4 out at the 3:21 mark. Irish hit the PAT, and it's Miners 14-7. North Posey starts off at their own 45, gets to Miner 32 but after two failed passes to Corey Heath, the Miners wrap up Steward on a 4th and 13 to stop the threat.  Halftime would see a pretty even contect.. 215-173 in total offense in Linton favor. THe Miners pretty much all on the ground (201) and the Vikings at 74/99 split. 

2nd half would see North Posey go straight down the field. Stewart carrying 5 times for 64 yards including the 24 yard score, knots it up 14 all. But the Miners would answer in a flash, and Lannan busts up the guy for a 42 yard run setting up Cox running in from 10, and a 7:56 of 3rd Linton back on top with another Irish PAT, 21-14.  By now both offense were moving the ball at ease.  Stewart converted at 3rd and 1 at the Miner 29, then on 4th and 8 at the Linton 21 Stewart completed the half back pass to Jesse Kissel for a 21 yard score.  Martin's PAT tied it up again at 21 with 4:28 in the 3rd.  Viking D would finally force a Miner punt, but then Linton would force North Posey to do the same.  Linton would go for a risky 4th and 1 and their own 42, and Cox barely got it, but they punt from midfield just into the 4th quarter.  The set up the best NP drive of the night from their own 23, converting five 3rd downs along with was including 3rd and 9, 3rd and 8, and a 3rd and 13 TD pass from Drake Rogers  to Austin Pearison of 22 yards...BUT, the PAT was blocked by Cash Howard...leaving the score 27-21 NO at the 3:58 mark of the game.  Then almost incredulously... Linton answers in two plays.  First Dyer broke from the Miner 19, 28 yards to the 47.  Next Cox broke free for a 53 yard TD run that seemed like the dagger.. especially with Braiden Irish PAT putting Linton up 28-27 with just 3:32 left.  The Dagger seemed to stab deeper when Steward fumbled the ball away at the Miner 47 on the first play of the next drive as Braxton Robinson came up with the ball. But the Miners couldn't ice the game away as two procedure calls and a swarming Viking defense force Linton to punt, but burying the Viking at their own 10 with 1:28 left. 

What happens in this final 1:28 is the things High School football players never forget, nor those lucky to have been at the game.  First Stewart drops a pass, the ROgers scrambles nearly being sacked, but gains 11 for the NP21.  I can remember plain as day, seeing the set up and knowing it was going to be a screen. You could see Steward leaning. The whole press box seemed to be yelling screen full vocal.. when it happened.   Screen.  Stewart makes the catch in the flat, a couple Miners lose footing, Steward amps up his speed, and down the screaming North Posey sideline he went Seventy-Nine yards to paydirt... absolutely switch of emotions as the Linton crowd goes silent where they had been in total screams second before...and vice versa the Viking throng now in total ectasy and NP players jump up and down and hug one another.  The Vikings then hit the 2 point conversion on a pass, and were up 28-21 with a mere 59 seconds left.  From their own 38, Cox was not going to give up, scrambling out of the pocket for 17 to the Viking 45.  back to back passes (Robertson for 6, Lannan for 4) and another 1st down, but a huge hit on Lannan was deemed head to head contact... tack on 15 mre, and Linton is at the Viking 20.  Cox again, scrambles for 9 diving out at the 11.  3rd and 1 an incomplete pass, the a crushing procedure call pushed miners back to the 16 on a 4th and 6... time for 1 play.  

Cox rolls to his right, NP has everyone covered, and seem to have Cox blocked in, but as we had seen from Keaton his entire Miner Career, he made people miss, darting in and around, and over to corner, hit about the 4, kept feet moving, downfield blocks from Dyer and Robertson… it actually looks like he’s gonna go down about the 2… but wait, #20 fellow senior Chance Howard comes flying in from nowhere to give a hearty lift and push to Cox, and it’s just enough as he leans the ball over the goal line in front of the official for a Miner Touchdown.  28-27…  

 

And no.. that’s not the PAT unit coming out… it’s the offense. People standing, both sides yelling.  Going into the famed south endzone…  Cox take snap, fakes handoff. Rolls left… everyone and their uncle thinks he’s gonna keep…  but alas soph Avery Puckett has gone down 5 and out from tight end. He’s got several steps on the coverage… Can Cox put in on the mark… there she flies… Boom.. The Catch…  Puckett hauls it in.  Miner fans erupt.  Miners only have to kick off .. which they do… and after 4 or 5 laterals, the game is over. Linton advances 29-28. 

What an effort on both sides for both teams. 

 

 

 Miners rushed for 439 on 52 carrues,  Cox with 192, 4 TDs on 20 carries, 13-116 for Lannan, 12-91 for Dyer.  Cox 4 of 9 passing but just 24 yards, 3 of those to Robertson for 20.  Stewart ran 32 times for 155 yards and 2 scores.  He had the bulk of their 184 yards on 41 carries.  Rogers threw for 230 on 14 of 24 passing, 2 TDs... and Stewart was actually 2 of 2 for 45 and a TD.  Both teams had stellar efforts on the defensive side.  Rishie Meyer with 12 tackles, Stewart, Wyatt Like and Rogers all with 10.  Linton Chance Howard finished with 20 tackles, 2 for loss, Drake Cunningham 12, 9 from Lannan.  Irish was 4 of 4 on PATs for Linton, Martin 3 of 4 for North Posey.     A game for the ages for sure.  Of those players on that field that night, Linton will have Dyer, Howard, Lannan, Mongeau, Robertson, and Puckett back on the field this Friday.  I don't see that any the Vikings current players were an active part of this game two years ago.

 

 

 

Great write up Big D! Just to be picky again, 36-35 ;). 

30 minutes ago, Miner_Pride said:

I haven't seen any of that in any of the footage I have watched.... it was a sight to see though back in 2017!!

 

It seems as though they don't have the speed that they had back 2 years ago either. I have a feeling those formations  were used to get the speedster in space and let him do his thing. 

I haven't seen but a little this year, but it does seem that their tight end is going to be a huge part of the offense.

10 minutes ago, JQWL said:

I haven't seen any North Knox film in several years so I was curious when I read this and looked them up on MaxPreps. It lists their leading rusher as being 5-6, 135 and second leading rusher as 6-0 and 150. So not really the BIG I was expecting or is this inaccurate?

This is misleading. Their line is the biggest I have seen so far this year below the 4A level.

Of course!

2 minutes ago, itiswhatitis said:

Don't know about that, but I do know their SOS isn't that much higher than Linton's.  So the Miners had better not take them lightly.  They (North Posey) lost 4 games in the middle of the season to 4 really good 3A teams.  

As long as Linton takes care of the ball, this game is their's, however anything can happen on Friday nights.

Does North Posey still have about 2176 formations to gameplan for? I remember 2 years ago that they lined up  in a different formation almost every play!

41 minutes ago, lp3coda said:

I think before Linton left the SW7 and ended up in 2A we had a lot of traditional rival games that had A LOT of history.  And that always generated a lot of talk of how good of a team the opponent had this year and how this year they would give Linton a run for their money etc etc. 

Now that Linton has really tweaked their schedule we haven't really established any solid rivalries with long histories and that takes some of the back and forth conversation out of it.

But you guys are right, there has been a slow down on conversations about Miner football and I'm not entirely sure why that is.  We have a really good team this year, and I would expect a little more chatter about them but it doesn't seem to be there.  

It's really hard to talk about the games when the other teams fans don't participate. I hate having only one side's point of view.

53 minutes ago, JustRules said:

Tech is wonderful and a great way to deliver content, but it's also a great way to manipulate the system. If we had on demand meetings someone could easily log in, start the video, walk away and let the video run and get credit yet not get anything out of it. A live online meeting could also be the same unless they added some kind of interactive check in process throughout the meeting to know you are still there.

If they could somehow guarantee engagement throughout I think a tech solution would be great! But otherwise it makes it easier for the box checkers to not hear what they need to hear. We would also lose a lot of the fellowship gained from meeting in person. Online work meetings are great for small groups but large groups are worthless.

Make a quiz available afterwards. Make it about things covered in the meeting. If you don't pass, you don't get credit. 

1 minute ago, senatorcoach72 said:

What about trade tape protocol. I don't know why some coaches employ the tactic where they have two filmers on the box. One a competent filmer with a HD camera using a tripod and the other a freshman with a handheld piece of junk, then send the latter as the trade film. I understand why endzone film is not traded. 

 

I have seen that before, including in my playing days! I know that Linton has adults running both the endzone and sideline cams to get the best footage possible. Now here's to hoping they can get the south window open so the visiting team can get better quality!

Just now, Tanka Jahari said:

I find it fascinating that both teams would film from the same endzone. I've always wondered if that had ever happened before. In your situation were you able to have any friendly banter with the other team's endzone videographer? Did you guys compare equipment?

Yes sir. It helps that I come off as likable, but most of the time the camera guys we deal with are just like us, there for the kids and giving back to the team and school we love and played for.

7 minutes ago, Tanka Jahari said:

I feel like you're mocking me. When talking Endzone Camera protocol, there is no room for funny business. Can you imagine two videographers getting into a fight during pre-game because they both want to use the same spot for their endzone camera? There are a million different scenarios to justify Endzone Camera protocol.

I help run the endzone camera a lot of the time at Linton. It's first come, first serve. We usually share the same endzone, just one on each side of the goal posts. No big deal.

1 minute ago, Rodney said:

Judt because you do not like what you hear doesnt make something incorrect.

 

1a football has got to go.

If 1A football has to go then so should you. 

10 hours ago, hick said:

I'm not so sure about Heritage Christain.

I do like Triton Central and would add them into the mix.  North Putnam is in Webo's sectional.  They could also be a factor.  

I only mention Heritage Christian due to their game with Guerin Catholic. But I agree that North Putman could have a say as well.

2 hours ago, globemstr3 said:

I dont wanna jinx my Miners but now the Big Picture is this.I think the Miners take care of NK. Handily. But maybe not. Thats why we play. EG might as well cancel now. Im concerned about a needless injury. Providence I know nothing about other than its pretty shaky. Bar injury win lose or draw for the Miners. I expect it will be Scenina, Mater Dei, Or Linton representing the South at Lucas Oil.I understand dont load the cart before the horses. But isn't this a fair assessment? I really think so. Thats a better place than we were last year! Kudos to Coach Ollie

 

You can not count out Heritage Christian nor the defending Class 2A State champion Western Boone.

I believe NKs line is big and strong, but how is their conditioning? Can they keep it going for 4 quarters? think the only way NK has a shot is by passing the ball. Although improved, that is Linton' s biggest weakness. Boonville, Southridge, and North Vermillion all moved the ball much better in the air, and Boonville didn't score until they started passing more. This game should be interesting, but i believe Linton will win by at least 3 scores due to speed and depth.

8 hours ago, Miner_Pride said:

In the end… and at this point, it would hard to bet against Mater Dei.  With the competition level faced in the course of the year.  It does get pretty physical, particularly these upcoming games.  Can they stay healthy etc… but they could lose all their upcoming games and I’m sure still be the favorite out of 40.  Their current SAG sits #3 in 2A 63^rd in Indiana.  The Miners are at 55.18 #11/104, while the Warriors at 52.36 (13/116).   Tell City is further back at 36.25 (29/179).   A big game to get a feel on the dark horse comes in week 7’s Linton vs North Knox in Bicknell.  However the Warriors are focused on county rival 1-4 3A Vincennes Lincoln. They rebooted this series in 2015, with the Alices winning all four.  The series lied dormant since their last meeting in 1996.  Tell City will have 2 major tests to finish out 2019- this week with Southridge, and in week 8 with Gibson Southern.

 

 

Just to be picky Big D, North Knox did beat Vincennes Lincoln in 2016, 20-18. 😉 Love the write up as always!

49 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

After four weeks, I think we have an adequate sample size...

1. Memorial (4-0)
2. Gibson Southern (3-1)
3. Central (3-1)
4. Heritage Hills (4-0)
5. Mater Dei (3-1)
6. Southridge (3-1)
7. Castle (3-1)
8. North (2-2)
9. Linton (2-2)
10. Jasper (1-3)
HM: North Knox (3-1), Mount Vernon (2-2), North Daviess (4-0), Reitz (1-3)

This was not easy. Spots 1-3 could be interchangable. As could spots 4-7. Outside of the top six or so teams, the big schools are making it hard to access where everyone stands. Would North Knox really hang in a game with Jasper or Reitz?

I put my neck out there. Your turn... Instead of a new thread each week, let's just keep updating this as the season progresses. Some interesting matchups forthcoming. 

 

1. Memorial (4-0)
2. Gibson Southern (3-1)
3. Central (3-1)
4. Heritage Hills (4-0)
5. Mater Dei (3-1)
6. Southridge (4-0)
7. Castle (3-1)
8. North (2-2)
9. Linton (3-1)
10. Jasper (1-3)
HM: North Knox (3-1), Mount Vernon (2-2), North Daviess (4-0), Reitz (1-3)

Just updated Linton's record. As to whether North Knox can hang, it it possible as their line is pretty good, but I feel like depth and the skill positions would not be that of the larger school.

4 hours ago, DT said:

The referee ranks have been contracting for years.   I question the work ethic of younger people in our society.  Nearly all refs have full time jobs.  They ref on the side to bring in extra income and to have an opportunity to be on the football field.  

Why can't we get our younger folks, primarily the 25-40 year old crowd, to do the same?   

Being an official myself, I feel like a lot of the younger generation can not handle the backlash from the fans. Quite frankly, I can understand.  We had a guy working a lower level game get confronted ON THE SIDELINES during the game by a fan. If this continues, we will no longer have enough officials. It only takes a few to ruin it for everyone.

3 hours ago, kingtut said:

Monrovia sorely needs to find some offense with gaining only 117 total yards last Friday evening against Edgewood.  The D seems to have been adequate in their games with Ritter and Edgewood but the offense hasn't been there yet.  Linton's rushing defense has been solid against Southridge and Sullivan so it appears the Bulldogs need to throw the ball with some success against the Miners although I don't thing passing is Monrovia's strength. It appears that Linton would have the edge but we shall see.  The Monrovia JV offense was also lacking in a 30 - 0 loss to the Miner JV last Saturday.  The young Miners were impressive.  They've yet to give up a score in two games although Owen Valley was credited with a controversial safety in game 1 in a 14 -2 Miner win.

That safety was far from controversial, I promise that lol

17 hours ago, jets said:

While it's perfectly understandable to feel like you gave one away, people (Miner fans especially) tend to forget the Raiders didn't play anywhere NEAR flawless either. 2 trips inside the Miner 5 YARD LINE in the first half and didn't convert either for TD's. That 12-7 halftime score could/should have been very easily 20-7 or 26-7, then we're talking a different tune here. 

Both teams played hard, both teams made LOTS of mistakes. Time for week 2 - best of luck to the Miners the rest of the way. 

They did give this one away. Linton gave up 3-4 huge pass plays, 2 or 3 of them on 3rd and long where you are taught to keep your man in front of you. They did not. If both sides had played with zero turnovers, I believe Linton wins. Southridge persevered and will have a great season. Hopefully the Miners learn from this and grow as a team.  However, #59, Schrader(sp?) I believe, was amazing all game. I have never seen a Safety play guard on the offense, nor have I ever remembered a player's name without looking at the roster. Also, I have never seen a safety making that many tackles that close to the LOS. Lots of range. Also, I never saw him get beat deep per se. Good luck the rest of the year!

Beech Grove @ Lutheran

Crispus Attucks @ Speedway

Cardinal Ritter @ Monrovia

Scecina @ Shenandoah

Triton Central @ Cascade

1a and 2a

15 hours ago, SL816 said:

Can we bring George Carlin back to let us know what constitutes a profanity? Am I going to get a 1 from a coach for flagging him for saying $hit?

 Maybe I don't hear as much as I should, but I don't think profanity is a huge issue. I'd much rather hear someone say they thought that was a Bull$hit call than to hear "You're cheating us." 

I agree with this 100%. As much as we hate to admit it, we do make mistakes. However, I am there to do my part and make sure the integrity of the game is kept. I will not favor one side of th other. I know a coach will get mad, he/she is human. Profanity does not bother me unless it's from players. I warn them, and the coach the first time, unless I feel it harsh enough to flag for the first defense. However, I do not like being accused of cheating for someone. My integrity is something I am very proud of.